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4	* {{Adorkable}}:
5	** Cecil gets charmingly dorky off-script, particularly when gushing about Carlos and cute animals. It's hard not to "d'aww" at his utter despair at not managing to be suave when talking to his crush, as well as his gleeful adoration of both Khoshekh and Internet cat videos.
6	** Carlos is an adorable, nerdy scientist who only tells "scientifically accurate jokes" and goes to nerdy conventions.
7	* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: While most interpretations assume that Cecil is sincere about pretty much everything he says on the radio, some go darker and assume that he's aware on at least some level that things aren't right and the lines he's being fed by Night Vale's overlords are false, but in order to stay alive he can't be seen to openly question them too often. Supporters of this interpretation note that Cecil will continue to talk about recently banned topics like the Dog Park right up until the Police, the Council, or Station Management start breathing down his neck. [[spoiler:He's certainly aware enough not to trust [=StrexCorp=] after they buy out the radio station in "Yellow Helicopters". This is confirmed in episode 36, "Missing": when [=StrexCorp=] shuts down the station, Cecil finishes his broadcast via a pirated signal and states outright that he's normally talking around a lot of censorship.]]
8	** Similarly, while most people assume that Carlos is a benevolent NaiveNewcomer, other interpretations have him being somewhat more morally ambiguous. There are quite a few portrayals as a (sometimes ex) [=StrexCorp=] scientist.
9	** Kevin is full of this. Most notably, his alliance to [=StrexCorp=] is questioned a lot, leading to debates that basically boil down to "ObviouslyEvil or ObliviouslyEvil?". Namely, is he really an evil, cold-hearted villain in league with an equally evil, cold-hearted organization? Or is he simply following orders? Was he brainwashed or tortured into working for [=StrexCorp=]? Or is he working for them of his own free will? Fanon interpretation tends to depend on which they think is scarier.
10	*** [[spoiler: Old Oak Doors Part B implies that he used to try and resist the Smiling God's light when [=StrexCorp=] took over Desert Bluffs and that part of him still screams from the inside, desperately wanting to resist.]]
11	*** In an off-handed joke, Kevin reacts very poorly to Lauren asking to call him "Kev." This could be [[spoiler: Kevin's last shred of personal identity struggling to survive. After all, he has lost everything else to [=StrexCorp=] and the Smiling God- his name is the one thing he has left, and he won't let ''anyone'' take that from him.]]
12	*** Also about Kevin, in Episode 70A - does he think of Carlos as a [[IJustWantToHaveFriends friend]], is he [[ManipulativeBastard knowningly just using him]], or is he interested in... [[VillainousCrush something more]]?
13	*** We find out for sure in "Triptych" that whatever Kevin is now, he [[BrainwashedAndCrazy wasn't always that way]].
14	* AluminumChristmasTrees: NumbersStations really exist.
15	* ArcFatigue: Carlos was [[spoiler: lost in the desert otherworld from May 2014 to June 2015]], taking its toll on Cecil ''and'' the audience.
16	** Before [[spoiler:her return]], Dana was [[spoiler: also lost in the desert/other world]] for a long time, from Episode 30 to 49.
17	* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: Most of the weather reports.
18	* BizarroEpisode: "The September Monologues" which features [[spoiler:monologues from the Faceless Old Woman, the owner of Dark Owl Records, previously thought to be deceased, and Steve Carlsberg. They all have monologues of their stasis and depression inside Night Vale, making for a very heartfelt and eerie episode. To top it all off, there is a layer of static on top of Cecil's narration, the weather begins but cuts off after some seconds when Steve mentions it, and the proverb is just static that grows louder and louder until the episode ends.]]
19	** Less bizarre now that it has a sequel, "The April Monologues," which ties into the current storyline.
20	* CargoShip: Megan Wallaby and the computer.
21	* CreepyCute: In a slightly oblique use of this trope, [[spoiler:Station Management and the City Council being in a relationship as of ''Skating Rink'']]. It's adorable! And creepy. But adorable! And it's really funny listening to City Council whine [[spoiler:about getting their income cut while in a relationship]] in the next episode.
22	* CryForTheDevil: [[spoiler: Desert Bluffs was once a town much like Night Vale before the Smiling God corrupted it into what it is now- they even resisted, just like Night Vale, but all of them fell- last of all their radio host, Kevin.]]
23	** 'Triptych' is powered by this trope to heartbreaking effect.
24	* DiscreditedMeme: Using "And now the weather" on Tumblr is a great way to get people to hate you thanks to severe overuse.
25	* EnsembleDarkhorse: Several of the [[RedShirt interns]], notably Dana (the only intern to survive for more than an episode, now the protagonist of her own storyline [[spoiler:and, as of Episode 49, the newly-elected Mayor of Night Vale]]). Tamika Flynn is also gaining popularity.
26	** Scout Master Earl Harlan has a thriving fanbase, an established {{fanon}} depiction, and numerous appearances in fanfiction, fanart, and cosplay, despite only being mentioned in a couple of episodes. It probably helps that in his scant time as a character, he mentioned having feelings for Cecil.
27	* {{Fanon}}:
28	** The various character designs for Cecil are notable in that some have become so prevalent, people commonly mistake them for canon. These include, but are not limited to, ExtraEyes, living tattoos, [[HumanoidAbomination tentacles]], blond hair, and glasses, a younger Tim Gunn as PBS Idea Channel has described... Although there are many competing portrayals. Just to set the record straight, the only clear canonical references to Cecil's appearance have been the [[SuspectIsHatless (non)descriptions]] of him and Kevin in "The Sandstorm" and his description of his outfit in "First Date", and WordOfGod is that his appearance in particular will remain vague.
29	** Carlos' appearance is a very different matter, as a relatively non-controversial consensus on hair, build, and facial features emerged early on (although there are of course alternate views). Depictions do vary considerably in age, given that he's established to have gray coming in but it's supposed to be at least a little premature.
30	** Intern Dana is usually portrayed in fan art as either Black or wearing a hijab.
31	*** The description of her older self in Episode 44 as having "short, natural hair" has confirmed her to be the former of these.
32	** Its also pretty commonly theorized that Carlos has a Desert Bluffs Double, though his exact personality (and whether there's any relationship to Kevin) is highly mutable. The most popular version (to the extent that he's actually been cosplayed) among fanfic writers and fan artists is a high-ranking [=StrexCorp=] scientist named Diego, who is Kevin's boyfriend and whose characterization ranges from JerkWithAHeartOfGold to a borderline villain.
33	*** Now, even with the release of 'The Mudstone Abyss' three-parter and Carlos's canon Desert Bluff's counterpart, Charles the Theologist, Diego is still decently popular amongst fans (partially because some fans haven't entirely caught up with the series but also because some fans genuinely prefer Diego to Charles)
34	** Cecil and Kevin (and sometimes Lauren) are usually drawn with a bit of ColourCodedForYourConvenience with the former wearing purple in some way, and the latter two being depicted wearing yellow (be it in ties, waist coat, tattoos, shirt, etc.). Fans associate their towns' colors with their clothing in place of actual descriptions.
35	** Former Night Vale mayor Pamela Winchell is more-or-less portrayed as a relatively typical middle-aged black woman (plus or minus a few extra arms), which makes the sanity-slippage that seems inherent in the mayoral position even more terrifying than if she were instead some sort of other-worldly monster with an entirely alien perspective of things.
36	* FanonDiscontinuity: There are some fans who feel that the series should have ended with ''Matryoshka''. Usually the view isn't that [[SeasonalRot the show got bad after that]], but rather that the show up to that point told a complete story, and provided a satisfactory conclusion.
37	* FriendlyFandoms: A mutually friendly relationship with the ''Series/{{Hannibal}}'' fandom helped propel ''Night Vale'' to viral success. Various other fandoms with similar surrealist themes have since become interested, such as ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'', ''VideoGame/{{Psychonauts}}'', '' Series/{{Supernatural}}'', ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'', and a bit surprisingly, ''Literature/MagicSchoolBus'' (due to having central characters named Carlos).
38	** With The ''Website/SCPFoundation''. The town of Night Vale might as well be an SCP itself, or a nexus where multiple [=SCPs=] manifest.
39	** There's a lot of crossover with ''WesternAnimation/TheFairlyOddparents'', too, mostly "And now, the weather." "... I thought you said feather." and Steve Carlsberg as Dinkleberg.
40	** Many WTNV fans have also gotten into ''Podcast/KakosIndustries'', due to their similarities as dark comedy podcasts. Emerging {{Fanon}} theory is that Kakos is linked to fellow EvilInc [=StrexCorp=].
41	** There's also considerable overlap with the ''Podcast/TheBlackTapes'' fandom, due to both being podcasts about the supernatural over the radio. The fact that the creators are fans of each other's podcasts helps.
42	* GatewaySeries: As one of the few podcasts to gain a devoted cult following, many ardent listeners have branched out to other podcasts to detail how the rest of the medium presents itself.
43	* GeniusBonus: The title of the episode "The Deft Bowman" seems totally random, since nothing about its plot has ''anything'' to do with archery. However, it's actually an obscure reference to the 1983 "Able Archer Exercise", where allied forces simulated a conflict escalation in 1983... which perfectly fits the episode, which is about an alternate time-line where a Russian city was wiped off the map by a nuclear bomb in 1983.
44	** Another possible one from "Parade Day": [[spoiler:as Tamika is arrested,]] she quotes ''Life of Galileo'' by Brecht. The more obvious reason behind this is that she, like Galileo, is being persecuted for speaking the truth. However, [[http://lurknomoar.tumblr.com/post/84450439166/parade-day-problem-5-the-galileo-reference as one commentator pointed out]], Galileo recanted his views in order to avoid torture and death, meaning Tamika could actually be [[spoiler: telling Night Vale to do whatever they need to survive, instead of dying for the cause.]]
45	** Almost any time literature is mentioned -- whether by Cecil, Tamika, or anyone else -- it tends to be one of these, name-dropping and quoting LitFic like the above ''Life of Galileo,'' ''Literature/TheWindUpBirdChronicle,'' and Wila Cather's ''Death Comes for the Archbishop.'' If you've read the books, you can extrapolate tons about what the reference means in a Night Vale context. Otherwise, it tends to sail right over your head.
46	* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: Brits apparently love ''Welcome to Night Vale'', if the live show's performance in London--selling out at least three shows, making it the biggest success the live tour has had anywhere--is any indication.
47	** For context, one of the completely sold out venues for the London leg of the tour is the Shepard's Bush Empire Arena, which is three stories of seating and is usually used for larger concerts and comedy shows. This venue sold out in about a week, and another show was added.
48	* HarsherInHindsight:
49	** In-universe, Kevin's oddly hopeful tone in Episode 19A when, having switched places with Cecil, he makes an innocuous comment wondering if he's traveled backwards in time. [[spoiler: Later, it's revealed that he used to be a radio host not unlike Cecil in a town not unlike Night Vale, before the Smiling God ate most of the person he used to be, leaving only a tiny piece inside to occasionally struggle uselessly against his new programming.]]
50	** Meta-example. Hearing Joseph Fink talking about how the cast will be appearing at [=DashCon=] and do a live-reading is a little cringeworthy knowing all that happened, especially to the cast themselves, who were suddenly told that their hotel rooms would not be provided by the convention, resulting in them ending up getting lodging from Airbnb that they paid out of their own pocket. When the [=DashCon=] staff then told that they that their travel-expenses wouldn't be refunded and they wouldn't be paid for their live-reading either (despite the staff having made promises to the contrary beforehand), they ultimately cancelled their appearance at the convention entirely.
51	** From ""PYRAMID"", released in late 2012:
52	--->The Flaky-Os marketing department must be complimented for the best use of viral marketing in Night Vale since Stan’s Pawn Shop released a ''virulent strain of Ebola'' back in '98.
53	** "The Mudstone Abyss, Part 2", from 2018:
54	---> And now a word from our sponsors. When we talk apocalypse, we talk fires and spires of smoke and screams and wars and horrid clouds of ash and floods. And this is a comforting vision, because it supposes we’re all in it together. But death is mostly something you keep to yourself. In all reality, the apocalypse is likely going to just be you alone in a room with the flu. Bed, Bath and Beyond: you’re going to need some new sheets.
55	* HoYay: Disturbingly, a good amount between [[spoiler: Carlos and Kevin]] in 70A.
56	* IKnewIt: When the announcements at the beginning of "Past Time" said the next episode would be a sequel to a previous one, many predicted it would be a sequel to "The September Monologues."
57	* JerkassHasAPoint: When [=StrexCorp=] [[spoiler: takes over the radio station]], Lauren and Kevin reel off a [[ContinuityNod long list]] of legitimate downsides to living in Night Vale, ranging from the inconvenient (wheat--and its by-products!--are banned) to the potentially deadly (the dog park). Of course, there are reasons for at least some of the problems on the list, their suggestion of [[spoiler: crushing Night Vale under the heel of [=StrexCorp=]]] is obviously a much worse plan, and Cecil later frames it as a BetterTheDevilYouKnow situation.
58	* LGBTFanbase: Is getting quite popular with this group, as the primary OfficialCouple in the series is gay.
59	* MemeticBadass: Tamika Flynn is gaining this reputation on Tumblr. Justified as of Episode 36, [[spoiler: where she successfully evades [=StrexCorp=] and [[DavidVersusGoliath destroys a yellow helicopter]] ''with a rock.]]''
60	* MoralEventHorizon: If [=StrexCorp=] hadn't already crossed this, they certainly did in episode 43 when they [[spoiler:critically injured Khoshekh]]. Though after episode 46, even that feels like mere prelude.
61	** Lauren crossed it in particular in episode 48, with [[spoiler: trying to have the bathroom containing Khoshekh's kittens destroyed after trying to have photos of them taken, destroying the stock market just to piss Kevin off (to no avail - if anything, it just gets him to show legitimate concern), and planning to have the forest destroyed out of some hatred of nature.]]
62	** As of Episode 63, [[spoiler: Hiram [=McDaniels=], The Faceless Old Woman, and possibly Mayor Dana have all crossed this. Hiram and the Faceless Old Woman are revealed to have been responsible for goading Pamela Winchell into her disastrous retirement activities, set up the Monolith in front of City Hall, ''and'' released the Antiques, all in an effort to discredit Mayor Dana. Mayor Dana, on the other hand, is possibly the [[CallBack owner of Lot 37 - one particular radio host -]] and has been using him against his will to protect herself. If true, this is a ''severe'' misuse of one of her closest friends and a breach of trust, even if for a good purpose.]]
63	*** As of Episode 70B, we can cross [[spoiler: Mayor Dana]] off the list. [[spoiler:It was actually Hiram [=McDaniels=]' purple head, Violet, that bought Lot 37.]]
64	** Nazr Al-Mujaheed cross this in Episode 123 when he [[spoiler:sacrifices Frances Donaldson's home universe to the Brownstone Spire, killing billions of people, because he can't stand to be separated from her.]]
65	* SugarWiki/MostWonderfulSound: In Episode 48, [[spoiler: The Night Vale theme song, heralding the return of Cecil.]]
66	* {{Narm}}: Fey's off-key singing, probably intentional.
67	* NeverLiveItDown: The black cloud pilot of the diving bird mural helicopter. Geez, you kidnap a bunch of the town's children once and people always think you're up to something!
68	* ParanoiaFuel: Invoked, frequently, especially in Episode 26, which describes the Faceless Old Woman who lives in your home, just out of vision, but whom you can occasionally see in the corner of your mirror. Your computer was running slow, so she's downloaded [[UsefulNotes/MozillaFirefox Firefox]] for you.
69	-->"... They did, however, release several thousand [[SpidersAreScary spiders]] into your home. Fortunately for you--like the faceless old woman--you will be unable to see these spiders unless you look ''closely''. They are highly trained spiders, moving just outside of your periphery. But--and this is also just like the faceless old woman--from time to time, you will feel them brushing against your soft cheeks and lips, as you sleep. [[MoodDissonance So, keep your eyes open!]]"
70	** It's statistically likely that there's a spider on you at all times. Research has yet to indicate what kind of spider, but it's probably one of the really ugly ones.
71	** The deadliest spider in the world was recently discovered by you and it's as hard to spot as its bite is hard to survive. Wait, that's next week's report, you don't need to worry about that for a few days yet.
72	* PlayerPunch: If the fanbase didn't hate [=StrexCorp=] before, they sure do as of "The Visitor" with [[spoiler:Khoshekh getting severely injured]].
73	* PortmanteauCoupleName: "Cecilos" for Cecil/Carlos.
74	* SeasonalRot: Fans are starting to complain about the fourth season (examples [[http://theoriesofnightvale.tumblr.com/post/132737778578/why-night-vale-is-not-as-appealing-as-it-used-to here]], [[http://videntefernandez.tumblr.com/image/131260731363 here]], and [[https://octoberspirit.tumblr.com/post/128543378096/meveret-it-does-feel-like-the-wtnv-fandom-is here]]), due to lack of a coherent plot for most of it.
75	** Episode 76, which was seen as a blatant ad for the book, is often cited as a low point for the series.
76	** Ever since the soft reboot after Episode 100, the series seems to have lost its pull and lacked a narrative arc. Many cite the focus on touring, novels, and expanding the brand as a reason for the stagnation of the story.
77	* TheWoobie:
78	** Considering the town's extreme, demented Orwellian authority and deadly supernatural occurrences, every citizen of Night Vale could potentially be considered a Woobie, since they stay [[StepfordSmiler pretty positive]] in the face of terror.
79	** Carlos could count double, considering he's an outsider and the OnlySaneMan, and thus much more aware of how wrong things really are than lifelong Night Vale residents.
80	** Cecil as well, with the reveal that [[spoiler:he has no memory of much of his teenage years. This includes his brother's entire existence, the time he spent as a Night Vale Community Radio intern, and creating the demo tapes that end with him being attacked in his empty house.]]
81	** IronWoobie: Intern Dana, who braves the horrifying dog park without a scratch, despite being frightened and starving. As of [[WhamEpisode "Yellow Helicopters"]], Old Woman Josie has become one as well, keeping a steady determination despite [[spoiler:[=StrexCorp=]'s impending takeover and her Angel friends disappearing]].
82	** Kevin at the end of episode 70b. Because he's a StepfordSmiler with [[GettingSmiliesPaintedOnYourSoul [=StrexCorp=] imposed artificial happiness]], his realizing that [[spoiler: Carlos just left the desert otherworld for good]] makes him so sad that you just want to hug the poor guy. Not too closely though, he's still covered in blood. It only gets worse in Episode 73, where it was clear that Kevin was once like Cecil and by the future radio cast it's clear he's broken, miserable and alone.
83	** Steve Carlsberg becomes this in "The September Monologues" where we find out [[spoiler: he and Cecil got along quite well when they first met at Steve and Cecil's sister's wedding. (Cecil even complimenting Steve's scones that he now publicly hates). That is, until Steve reveals to Cecil he knows all about the Vague-But-Menacing-Government-Agency, and other forbidden Night Vale knowledge, at which point Cecil snapped and almost had the wedding called off.]]
84	** Hiram [=McDaniels=] at the end of episode 88. His reaction to [[spoiler: the guilty verdict of his trial and subsequent death sentence, described in excrutiating detail by the judge]] makes you want to hug the five-headed dragon.
85	* ViewerNameConfusion:
86	** A lot of names tend to be misspelled. For the record, [[http://stevecarlsberg.tumblr.com/post/55797081331 according to Jeffrey Cranor]], it's "Steve Carlsberg" with an "e", "Old Woman Josie" with an "ie", "Telly" with a "y", and the levitating bathroom cat's name is [[http://stevecarlsberg.tumblr.com/post/55799545725 "Khoshekh"]].
87	** The names of places aren't exempt. [[http://commonplacebooks.com/faqs The FAQ section on the official website states that it's "Svitz", "Franchia", "Moonlite All-Nite Diner", and others]].
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91	* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation:
92	** Is the Man in the Tan Jacket [[spoiler: a {{Jerkass}} who callously upended three lives in a bid to force them to clean up someone else's mess, or is he just a desperate man driven to extreme methods by the fact that no one could remember his desperate pleas for help? Or alternatively, after his SurprisinglyHappyEnding: is he a very understandable, but still out-of-line JerkassWoobie who needed a little push to take responsibility and fix his own problems?]]
93	** Is Diane [[spoiler: justified for chewing out the Man in the Tan Jacket, or is she unbearably selfish as a mother, not hesitating to engage in some uncalled-for victim blaming on someone who convinced her already unhappy teenage son to willingly run away from home? Are her insults the product of fear and righteous anger (as Josh is a teenager being endangered by an adult who should know better), or was the line "Maybe if you had been a better mayor, none of this would have happened" crossing a line?]]
94	* AntiClimaxBoss: For all the years that they've been built up at a terrifying threat [[spoiler: Jackie and Diane are able to outmaneuver the Librarians fairly quickly]].
95	* JerkassWoobie: The Man in the Tan Jacket. [[spoiler: Had a normal life, a family, and a city he loved, before Troy arrived and brought Night Vale's weirdness with him. He watches as multiple Troys swarm the city, his existence is forgotten by his family and citizens, and when he goes to Night Vale to find help he's forgotten there too. However, Jackie and Diane don't hesitate to point out that he disrupted many people's lives to fix a problem that was, at the end of the day, his responsibility, up to and including luring a teenage boy to King City just to use him to get to his father.]]
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