Line #99 Main/ReminiscingAboutYourVictims


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7	->''"Do you have a brother? I shot a man once who looked like you. In Kiev. In... '93, I think. I'm sure you heard about it. The Spetsnaz team that tried to sell a warhead? Nobody ever saw them again. ''[breaks into a psychotic chuckle]'' That was a good winter for me!"''
8	-->-- '''Michael Westen''' from ''Series/BurnNotice'' deliberately plays up his ShroudedInMyth[=/=]PsychoForHire image
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10	We know that EvilFeelsGood. So, it's also natural that evil people can get nostalgic for times that felt particularly good, such as an especially fun victim or a favorite city you destroyed. Sometimes the character does it in such a way [[MoodDissonance that it would be cute if not for the monstrous deeds being talked about]].
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12	Some typical uses of this trope include: a SerialKiller thinking about their kills, a BloodKnight recalling a WorthyOpponent, when the villain is intentionally [[WouldYouLikeToHearHowTheyDied trying to hurt]] or [[RelativeButton provoke a hero]] they are talking to, to show the villain having an attachment to a victim such as a VillainousCrush or a touch of LimaSyndrome, or to reveal that the villain's only known victim was NotTheFirstVictim.
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14	WouldYouLikeToHearHowTheyDied and the PostRapeTaunt often go hand in hand with this trope. Contrast ButForMeItWasTuesday, where the villain doesn't remember their victims. Compare and contrast AntagonistInMourning. Can be an excellent EstablishingCharacterMoment, particularly if a character is meant to be established as AxCrazy. See also WritingAboutYourCrime, when the past atrocities are committed to paper instead.
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22	* In ''Anime/TigerAndBunny'' three criminals sharing a jail cell swap stories of their misdeeds, one of them remarking that he loves kidnapping, because you can get a bunch of money and then [[ILied kill the kid afterwards]]. [[spoiler:They immediately then get incinerated by Lunatic.]]
23	* ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist'':
24	** During his interrogation Barry the Chopper talks about his various kills this way, reminiscing about how beautiful the moonlight on the pools of blood was, treasuring the memories of such halcyon days. He also ''instantly'' spots the one bogus incident they mentioned to test him.
25	** [[SociopathicSoldier Kimblee]] offers an oddly noble reason for this behavior: If you're going to kill somebody, you should remember them because their last memory will be of you.
26	* Generally averted with ''Manga/DeathNote'''s VillainProtagonist Light, who often seems completely unconcerned with his victims' identities beyond their being acceptable targets and/or being convenient to kill... However, he does seem to do this quite a lot in reference to [[AntagonistInMourning one particular victim]] during the series' second half.
27	-->'''Light''': In the end, L is indeed [[WorthyOpponent the greatest detective on earth]]...
28	* ''Manga/{{Bleach}}'': Mayuri reveals to Uryuu that he had studied the Quincies by launching into a long speech about all the things he did to the Quincies he'd captured in order to study responses to mental and physical stimuli. It's a speech that reveals just how far down the road of MadScientist he's willing to go ForScience.
29	* In ''Anime/{{K}}'', the Colorless King appears in the cell where Mikoto, the Red King, is being held and taunts him about the murder of his closest follower, Totsuka. He then goes on to say he'll kill all of Mikoto's followers, one by one, and make him watch.
30	* ''Manga/MadeInAbyss'' has Bondrewd, the Lord of the Dawn, who despite [[spoiler:sacrificing countless of his "adopted" children for horrific human experimentation]], takes the time to remember each of their names and even their hobbies and dreams in detail, reminiscing about them to Reg during their second encounter. It's made [[BlueAndOrangeMorality complicated]] by the fact that he's simultaneously able to genuinely care for them ''while'' also being willing to [[spoiler:horribly mutilate them and subject them to fates worse than death]] for his ideals.
31	* D'Arby the Elder from ''Manga/JojosBizarreAdventureStardustCrusaders'' knows the names of his victims, the dates of the time he trapped their souls and how he defeated each of them.
32	* During the King Piccolo saga in ''Manga/DragonBall'', after Goku had caught up with Tambourine, he asks Tambourine if he was the one who killed Goku's friend Krillin. Tambourine thanks Goku for telling him that Krillin died and fondly tells Goku how he killed Krillin and how easy it was for him, which deeply angers Goku, and later Tambourine mentions how he loves to hear the sound humans make when they die.
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36	* ''ComicBook/LesInnommables'' has a pair of panels where the ghosts of Chinese victims are surrounded by fire, then cut to Colonel Lychee, who's dozing happily at the memory.
37	* The ''ComicBook/JudgeDredd'' story "Young Death: Boyhood of a Superfiend" serves as [[OmnicidalManiac Judge Death]]'s OriginsIssue. It's basically one long use of this trope as Death, being interviewed by a terrified journalist, happily recalls all the people that he gruesomely murdered during his long career of killing every living thing.
38	* ''ComicBook/Robin1993'': Sir Edmund Dorrance starts describing in loving detail the way he killed Clyde Rawlins' wife and children while beating him to death, and the last words Rawlins hears in life are Dorrance saying the only thing he regrets about the whole affair is that his blindness means he won't be able to actually watch Rawlins himself die.
39	* In ''ComicBook/TheSandman1989'', an imposter Bogeyman (see ''ComicBook/SwampThing'', below) at a "[[UnusualEuphemism Collector's]] Convention" is found out when someone blurts out a number and he ''doesn't'' immediately talk about eyes. [[CruelAndUnusualDeath Things do not go well for him afterwards]].
40	* A typically creepy Creator/AlanMoore issue of ''ComicBook/SwampThing'' has a SerialKiller who calls himself the Bogeyman and remembers his victims by number... and their eyes. Every time he hears a number, the panel shows a disembodied pair of eyes and his description of same.
41	* In an issue of ''ComicBook/UncannyXMen'' around the 200's, Selene is confronting Rachel (Phoenix) because Selene killed a man who was helping Rachel, and Selene taunts her by pointing out that she knows all about the man she killed while Rachel doesn't even know his name.
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45	* ''Franchise/HarryPotter'' fanfic [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4545504/1/Aspirations Aspirations]] has Bellatrix [=LeStrange=] remembering she used to pleasure herself in Azkaban with the memory of breaking her father's skull with a crowbar.
46	* ''FanFic/{{Hivefled}}'' has a sidechapter where the [[UnholyMatrimony villain couple]] have sex while discussing [[TortureTechnician what they did]] to previous victims and what they plan to do to the rebel gang when they find them.
47	* In ''FanFic/ShadowOfTheValley'' [[Manga/DeathNote Light and Ryuk]] wax nostalgic about past kills.
48	* In the second chapter of ''Fanfic/OldWest'', set one year after the ending of ''WesternAnimation/{{Rango}}'', [[AntiHero Rattlesnake Jake]] remembers with sadistic satisfaction how he killed Tortoise John for his betrayal.
49	* ''Fanfic/CommonSense'': A non-lethal and non-AxCrazy version: one of Team Rocket's favorite ways of HoldingTheFloor for their schemes and DrawAggro from Ash Ketchum is to smugly remind him of the many (and that is ''[[KnightOfCerebus many]]'') defeats he's had to them throughout the story.
50	* Downplayed in ''Fanfic/TheMountainAndTheWolf'': The Wolf tends to mention his victims in passing rather than making a big deal out of it, even complaining that they weren't much of a fight (including the Mountain and Ramsay Bolton), and implying he's killed (among other things) [[Literature/HarryPotter Fenrir Greyback]] and [[Franchise/FinalFantasy an Onion Knight]].
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54	* In ''Film/RobRoy'' when Rob and Cunningham finally meet face to face, Cunningham teases Rob about how good it felt to rape Rob's wife. "Your wife was far sweeter forced than many are willing."
55	* In ''Film/GangsOfNewYork'', Bill Cutting considers Priest Vallon a WorthyOpponent and does an AntagonistInMourning type of celebration of their fight every year.
56	* [[Film/SilenceOfTheLambs Hannibal Lecter]] seemed to really enjoy that memory of the census worker whose liver he ate with fava beans and Chianti.
57	* The Joker does the WouldYouLikeToHearHowTheyDied version in ''Film/TheDarkKnight''.
58	-->Do you want to know why I use a knife? Guns are too quick. You can't savor all the ... little emotions. In ... you see, in their last moments, people show you who they really are. So in a way, I know your friends better than you ever did. Would you like to know which of them were cowards?
59	* In ''Film/ThePrincessBride'', while talking with Buttercup, the Man in Black tells her how Westley pleaded for his life before he killed him. Here it's used in a more respectful way since the Man in Black hints at [[SympathyForTheHero being moved by Westley's sincerity and devotion]]. [[spoiler:Ultimately subverted in that the Man in Black did not, in fact, kill Westley...he '''''is''''' Westley!]]
60	* ''Film/ConAir''. About midway through the film, convicted serial killer Garland Greene strikes up a conversation with Cameron Poe during which he happily recounts how he once killed a girl, then drove through three states while [[GenuineHumanHide wearing her head as a hat]].
61	* In ''[[Film/CabinByTheLake Return to Cabin by the Lake]]'', Stanley Caldwell recalls Kimberly, his last successful victim before his crimes were found out, quite well. He relays to Allison, a curious scriptwriter, that she gave him "a good fight" and clawed at his arm as he daydreams about Kimberly.
62	* ''Film/WhoFramedRogerRabbit'': [[spoiler:Judge Doom]] gives Eddie Valiant a [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4B_jDp0ffI truly terrifying]] version of WouldYouLikeToHearHowTheyDied:
63	-->''Remember me, Eddie? When I killed your brother, I talked JUST...LIKE...'''THIIIIIIIIIIIS!'''''
64	* Thrax the virus does this in ''Film/OsmosisJones'', complete with DNA bead souvenirs and the twist that he's gotten faster with each victim. His endgame is to kill a human in 48 hours and set a record, ensuring he goes down in medical history.
65	* El Indio of ''Film/ForAFewDollarsMore'' sometimes listens to the chime from his pocket watch and reflects on its previous owner, a young woman ([[spoiler:[[ItsPersonal bounty hunter Col. Mortimer's sister]]]]) who killed herself with his gun after he murdered her lover and raped her. He wistfully dwells on her as if she were "the one that got away," a touch of humanity that ironically makes him seem even ''more'' loathsome than if he were recalling his evil deed with the sadistic glee of a CardCarryingVillain.
66	* The FramingDevice of ''Film/TheHouseThatJackBuilt'' centers around this, with a SerialKiller named Jack being interviewed by an unseen second party, recounting 5 different "incidents" across the past 12 years. The film uses this as a means to [[{{Deconstruction}} deconstruct]] the notion of EvilGenius-type killers, as despite Jack's claims that [[MadArtist his various kills improved him and his philosophies]], it's clear he's just a sociopath with delusions of grandeur, and several of his stories [[UnreliableExpositor where he props himself up as a genius for "outsmarting" and killing his victims]] often actually just illustrate [[StupidEvil just how incompetent he really was at achieving his goals.]]
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70	* In the first book of the ''Literature/SwordOfTruth'' series, the BigBad is remembering a girl he took to his bed, and how she laughed at his scars. Since it happens during a situation when he must smile to another, he shifts to recalling what he has done to her in response.
71	* In ''Literature/KingSolomonsMines'' (where Allan Quartermain got his start) the Zulu warrior Umslopagaas says that he wouldn't mind meeting and talking to some of the people he had killed in battle. In this case, it isn't to show that Umslopogaas is evil but that though he is a BloodKnight he is also an honorable ProudWarriorRaceGuy who respects a WorthyOpponent.
72	* ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'''s ''Literature/CarpeJugulum'':
73	** The vampire Count and Countess Magpyr reminisce about their honeymoon:
74	--->'''Countess''': And we met such lovely people. Do you remember [[Literature/{{Dracula}} Mr and Mrs Harker]]?\
75	'''Count''': Very fondly. I recall they lasted nearly all week.
76	** Inverted by the Old Count, who decides to reminisce about some former {{Worthy Opponent}}s [[DeathIsCheap who had killed him over the years]] as well as one of his intended victims (and her very shapely neck) in front of their children and grandchildren.
77	* In ''Literature/{{Hannibal}}'', Mason Verger reminisces about a Christian camp he attended and his fellow campers, some of them disadvantaged youth who "would do anything for a candy bar" which allowed him to molest them. This is meant to mark him out as an AssholeVictim of Hannibal Lecter's [[spoiler:and later of his sister Margot's]].
78	** Lecter himself does this occasionally, most famously in ''Literature/TheSilenceOfTheLambs'' when he tells Clarice about the census worker whose liver he ate with ANiceChianti.
79	* In ''Literature/TheTwoPrincessesOfBamarre'', the dragon Vollys treats her prisoners as "guests" before eating them, letting them live longer with a system of giving and taking away pieces of treasure from her hoard for entertaining her. She reminisces about several of her previous victims fondly, talking about them like they were old friends and mourning the fact that she got bored and killed them. In return, the protagonist Addie later regrets [[spoiler: having to kill her to escape.]]
80	* In the ''Literature/WarriorCats'' field guide ''Battles of the Clans'', [[BigBad Tigerstar]] remembers how fun it was when he killed Redtail.
81	* Chiswyck's weakness for this trope leads Arya to contrive his assassination in ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire''; his bragging about his band's rapes and murders proves a little too much for her.
82	* In ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheDeathlyHallows'', Harry's last-minute escape from Voldemort in [[spoiler:Godric's Hollow]] triggers a ThroughTheEyesOfMadness vision where Voldemort recounts the night he killed Harry's parents.
83	* In ''Literature/TheJungleBook'' story "The Undertakers", a jackal, adjutant stork, and mugger crocodile chat on a riverbank. The crocodile reminisces about the various humans he's eaten over the years.
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87	* In the above quote, Michael Westen from ''Series/BurnNotice'' is deliberately using this trope (and playing up the image Russians have of him as the CIA's version of the Boogeyman) to speed along an interrogation by freaking out the guy he, Sam and Fi are interrogating.
88	* [[BloodKnight Spike]] from ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'' is quite fond of discussing and reminiscing about the Slayers that he has killed. During his "weepy drunk" phase post-Drusilla breakup, he remembers killing a homeless man on a bench with her...while [[EnemyMine Buffy and Angel]] listen in disgust. Post-chip, he tells Dawn a GhostStory about him killing an entire family.
89	* Parodied and subverted in ''Series/VeronicaMars''.
90	-->'''Veronica''': [[WaxingLyrical I once shot a man in Reno]], [[Music/JohnnyCash just to watch him die.]]\
91	'''Dean''': Oh, how'd that go?\
92	'''Veronica''': ...It was kind of a letdown.
93	* ''Series/TheKidsInTheHall'', naturally, [[CrossesTheLineTwice play this for laughs]] with a group of friends gathered to memorialize their dead buddy. Turns out they killed him, of course.
94	-->"It really makes you think about the fragility of life."\
95	"Not really. Remember how he struggled at the end?"
96	* Subverted in ''Series/TheXFiles'' episode "Paper Hearts", where the villain of the week tries to convince Mulder that it was he who kidnapped and murdered his little sister by describing her last moments. Mulder eventually calls bullshit and is right: the bad guy wasn't Samantha's kidnapper, just a {{jerkass}}.
97	* On ''Series/TheMentalist'', a man claims to be the SerialKiller Red John and tries to prove this by telling Patrick Jayne how nicely Patrick's wife and daughter smelled right before he killed them. [[spoiler: However, it does reveal he's close with the actual Red John since he couldn't have acquired these specific details otherwise.]]
98	%%* George Marks of ''Series/ColdCase'' is fond of this.
99	* ''Series/TheTwilightZone1959'': In "[[Recap/TheTwilightZone1959S3E9DeathsHeadRevisited Deaths-Head Revisited]]", the former SS officer Gunter Lütze returns to Dachau after [[ArgentinaIsNaziLand 17 years in South America]] to reminisce about all the suffering that he caused there.
100	* In the ''Series/{{Being Human\|UK}}'' episode "Though the Heavens Fall", [=MacNair=] attempts to preface killing Herrick with describing all the vampires he has killed. Taking Herrick on a trip down memory lane proves to be a very bad idea.
101	* ''Series/LawAndOrderSpecialVictimsUnit'' features this in the episode entitled "Quarry." The team believes they've unearthed another victim of a convicted murderer and pedophile. When presented with a slew of baseball caps that belonged to the victims (he had kept the caps as "mementos"), the man is able to recall the full name of the corresponding child, along with the exact date he committed the crime, after giving each hat a momentary sniff. It's just as creepy as it sounds.
102	* ''Series/Liar2017'': After his mask slips, [[spoiler:Andrew]] starts talking fondly about how he raped not only Laura but previous women in private conversation with her, to her utter horror. Not only that, but he ''video-taped'' each rape, and regularly views the recordings again for his enjoyment.
103	* Nate Haskell did this in ''{{Series/CSI}}'' and actually was asked to do it in an attempt to get the burial location of his victims out of him. It didn’t work. He reminisced but refused to tell.
104	* ''Series/AFrenchVillage'':
105	** After he comes back from the Soviet Union, Müller tells Hortense (who's horrified) that he'd overseen mass murders of Jews there, happily talking about it and wondering at why one dug his own grave so willingly.
106	** The Milice leader Janvier happily talks about massacring an entire family after he returns from doing it. Later, his successor and other men talk about how they had a show trial of Communists, with all the "defendants" horrified to see that their benches were actually coffins, plus mockingly singing the Communist anthem "The Internationale" to them first.
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110	* Music/{{Kamelot}}'s song ''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49HcaDBqTwU The Zodiac]]'' is inspired by the Zodiac Killer, and in the lyrics, he reminisces about breaking the neck of a woman.
111	* "The Litany of the Slain" by GWAR.
112	* Music/SpikeJones' parody of "My Old Flame" presents the song sung by Creator/PaulFrees (imitating Creator/PeterLorre) as a psychotic killer who is trying to remember which one of his victims the song is about.
113	--> "My old flame / I can't even think of her name / ({{beat}}) I'll have to look through my collection of human heads."
114	--> "WHAT WAS HER NAME? [[Creator/DorisDay Doris]], Laura[[note]][[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laura_(1945_song) another song parodied by Spike]][[/note]], Chloe[[note]][[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlo-e_(Song_of_the_Swamp) yet another song parodied by Spike]][[/note]], [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pep_Boys Manny, Moe, Jack?]] ({{beat}}) [[ITakeOffenseToThatLastOne No, it couldn't have been Moe.]] I can't stand it, I tell you, this is driving me ''sane!''"
115	* Music/WeirdAlYankovic's song "The Good Old Days" features a serial killer reminiscing about torturing rats, removing the wings from flies, murdering the corner store owner, and leaving his prom date in the desert to die.
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119	* In ''VideoGame/{{Portal}}'', [=GLaDOS=] is quite happy to talk about [[spoiler:forcing you to kill CompanionCube]]
120	* Invoked by Kefka in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI'':
121	-->'''Kefka:''' Say, remind me to show you my Magicite collection someday! You might see a few familiar faces!!!
122	** Explained: [[spoiler: Magicite crystals are the dead bodies of magical beings, whom Terra was born amongst.]]
123	* At one point in ''{{VideoGame/Borderlands 2}}'', [[BigBad Handsome Jack]] will call you to complain about [[WhyWontYouDie how you just aren't giving up,]] which somehow segues into him reminiscing about his assault on New Haven, during which a man stupidly tried to attack him with a spoon. So he [[EyeScream scooped out the man's eyes]]. With the spoon. While the man's children watched.
124	* An odd example in ''VideoGame/Hitman2016'' where there's a rumor that Jordan Cross has a recording about the night in which his girlfriend Hannah died. [[spoiler: He does have a recording, but he's wracked with guilt over her murder which he is responsible for.]]
125	* In ''VideoGame/{{Overlord}}'' [[spoiler:the Wizard/first Overlord]] boasts during the boss battle about how he corrupted the Heroes, reciting the single sentence that destroyed each of them.
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129	* In ''Webcomic/ElGoonishShive'', Not-Tengu talks about [[http://egscomics.com/comic/2013-07-16 the previous time he created a mind controlled congregation]] while going on a MotiveRant.
130	* ''Webcomic/Trevor2020'': Dr. Smithe wistfully notes that he got used to having a patient that could talk after initially having chosen a profession where he would work with dead bodies to avoid chatting with people - and that he misses Trevor’s screams.
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134	* Jack Slash, a superpowered SerialKiller who leads a band of the same in ''Literature/{{Worm}}'', does this a lot, recalling the numerous and inventive deaths and/or [[FateWorseThanDeath Fates Worse Than Death]] that he and his group have inflicted upon their victims in order to unsettle and disturb his enemies.
135	* In ''WebVideo/ThereWillBeBrawl'', [[spoiler:Kirby]] particularly enjoys taunting Luigi with his murder of Daisy: "I can only imagine how you must have felt...when I ate ''your'' princess, I wore her head like a hat and danced through the streets..." Fitting because he is directly inspired by Hannibal Lecter, he enjoys messing with Luigi, and [[spoiler:doing just that was most of his point in [[VillainsActHeroesReact instigating the series]]]].
136	* ''WebVideo/JojosBizarreAdventureAbridged'' has J. Geil go on about this while bragging about killing Polnareff's sister.
137	-->[[CrossesTheLineTwice I raped her, then I killed her, then I dressed her up as Liza Minelli, then I raped her again.]] I know, I'm f***ed up like that
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