Line #8 Main/ChurchLady


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4	->'''Deanne:''' ''(to newcomer Mary Jo)'' Hello! It's great to have you with us today! You know, we need people to help with the youth group car wash this afternoon. I don't suppose you'd be available?
5	->'''Sally:''' Deanne, Mary Jo just got here. She doesn't want to wash cars. ''(to Mary Jo)'' But would you be interested in teaching church school?
6	-->-- ''Series/DesigningWomen''
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8	See that woman in one of the front pews? The one smilingly dishing out coffee and cake after every Sunday service? The one serving on every committee, planning every social event, and chairing every fundraising drive? The one who always has the ear of TheVicar, whether he wants her to have it or not? The one wearing a [[TheHilarityOfHats comically oversized]] [[StylishSunhats sun hat]]? Meet the Church Lady.
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10	Where there's a [[TheChurch house of worship]] in a story, there's likely a Church Lady or two in attendance. The trope can apply to any female character with particularly active involvement in her religious community, but she comes in two basic variants:
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12	'''Positive:''' This Church Lady is a kind and soft-spoken ProperLady, expressing her genuine devotion to her faith through dedicated worship, good works, and living up to her morals without being pushy about them. Her manner of dress is SimpleYetOpulent, and [[SheCleansUpNicely her Sunday best]] enhances her AngelicBeauty. She's most often a [[GoodParents good mother]] and [[WomenAreWiser responsible wife]] who is LovedByAll within the congregation. If she's of grandmotherly age, she can be [[ScatterbrainedSenior dotty but lovable]]. [[SilkHidingSteel Her sweet nature may belie a surprising amount of inner fortitude]] if she feels the need to defend her faith, family, or community. She can be a {{Foil}} to the Negative Church Lady described below in a comedy, but her best attributes can be PlayedForDrama in more somber stories.
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14	'''Negative:''' This Church Lady is [[ObnoxiousEntitledHousewife obnoxious and entitled]] in every sense. She [[GossipyHens thrives on church gossip]] and broadcasts it to all who will listen, especially when it means [[ItMustBeMine getting a position or prize]] [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder from a rival]]. She's also ''very'' vocal about her religious beliefs, [[{{Hypocrite}} although she may not live by them day to day]]. She does get involved in good works, but they're mostly [[RightForTheWrongReasons a means to an end for her]]. Her manner of dress tends to be [[ImpossiblyTackyClothes impossibly tacky]] with lots of [[EverythingsSparklyWithJewelry gaudy jewelry]]. She arrives on Sunday mornings with a HenpeckedHusband and a BrattyHalfPint or three in tow, all of whom are [[AmazinglyEmbarrassingParents embarrassed to be seen with her]]. Her congregation gives her a ZeroPercentApprovalRating, but she probably doesn't realize that. She may not have an official job at the church, but she certainly acts like she does, even to the point of clashing with the pastor if she thinks he's not running things properly. She serves as PluckyComicRelief, with her worst qualities PlayedForLaughs. At her absolute worst, she's a fire-breathing fundamentalist who really does believe everything she's saying and [[{{Demonization}} will eat you for breakfast]] [[WithUsOrAgainstUs if you don't share those beliefs]]. She often struggles with [[FemaleMisogynist internalized misogyny]], and [[GreenEyedMonster jealousy]] driven by fears that other women will "tempt" her husband away. In some cases, she may be an outright ChurchGoingVillain.
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16	It's worth noting that a Church Lady can bounce between Positive and Negative depending on the plot. She may have a redemption StoryArc by moving from Negative to Positive, or a ProtagonistJourneyToVillain by moving in the opposite direction.
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18	The Church Lady can be of any religion. She's usually Christian in Western media, but the trope is applicable to whatever the dominant religion is in the setting. She ranges in age, but she's typically old enough to have children or even grandchildren. She's commonly a {{Housewife}} or retired, but if she has a job, it's very likely to be with the church in some manner. She's often a SupremeChef, well known for (commonly) a baked good and/or a casserole. Naturally, women who are clergy themselves or the wife of one are automatically Church Ladies (though if she's the leader of the church herself, she'll at least try to hold herself above the negative side of this trope).
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20	Compare PrinciplesZealot, TheFundamentalist, GodIsGood, MoralGuardians, SoapboxSadie, and HolierThanThou. '''No real-life examples, please.'''
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27	* ''Film/TheBishopsWife'' and its 1996 remake ''The Preacher's Wife'' both feature lovely, soft-spoken church matriarch Julia, neglected by her ambitious but well-meaning PreacherMan husband until "Dudley," an angel sent to answer the husband's prayers, enters the picture (though the wife is unaware of Dudley's true nature) and starts paying attention to her, as part of an OperationJealousy that turns into InLoveWithTheMark on his part. The fact that an ''actual angel'' falls for her is a testament to her goodness, and notably, in the original film, when Dudley confesses his attraction to her, she tells him to leave, proving her devotion to her husband despite how kindly Dudley treated her.
28	* ChristianFiction has plenty of Church Ladies to go around. One example is Joyce from 2019's ''Breakthrough'', who spends all day at the local church despite not actually working there and often gets on Pastor Noble's case for being too liberal.
29	* ''{{Film/Clue}}'': Mrs. Peacock carries a Bible around with her everywhere and frequently quotes it. [[spoiler:It's eventually revealed that this image is actually a ruse she uses to evade suspicion; the Bible is hollow and being used to smuggle bribes for her senator husband.]]
30	* ''Film/JoyfulNoise'': G.G. and Vi Rose are rival Church Ladies battling it out for control of the choir. G.G. mostly uses SugaryMalice and [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney money]] to get her way, whereas Vi Rose prefers [[MyWayOrTheHighway forceful argument]].
31	* ''Film/KeepingMum'': Mrs Parker frequently corners the vicar to talk about the flower-arranging committee.
32	* Three of the four titular moms in ''Film/MomsNightOut'' fit this stereotype fairly well, albeit as more positive examples. The film also plays with this trope in the form of Sondra, who arguably fits the stereotype more than any of the other characters...[[spoiler: but also attended Woodstock in her younger years and has an embarrassing tattoo of Donny Osmond on her butt.]]
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36	* ''Literature/TheBestChristmasPageantEver'': While domineering Mrs. Armstrong is the most significant example, multiple characters qualify and represent positions across the entire positive-negative spectrum.
37	* ''Literature/CrazyRichAsians'':
38	** Carol Tai is the only member of her Bible study group who actually appears interested in the Bible. She's the first to pray in a crisis, and she takes her granddaughter Gisele to church every Sunday.
39	** Corinna Ko-Tung notes that her cousin Fiona Tung-Cheng is one of the few true Christians at their elite Hong Kong church, where she runs the after-service coffee hour in chic designer dresses. Fiona proves Corinna right when she magnanimously forgives Kitty Pong for her past social transgressions.
40	* ''Literature/DangerousLiaisons'': Madame de Tourvel soberly moves through every step of Sunday services and relies on Christian texts for comfort. Her "strict morals, religious fervor, and the happiness of her marriage" are why Valmont finds the idea of seducing her so intriguing.
41	* Creator/GeorgeMacDonaldFraser wrote about one of his grandmothers, a member of the Presbyterian Church of Scotland, who had a habit of sitting in the front pew and glaring at the minister to ensure he said nothing in the sermon that she'd disapprove of. Ministers of the Church tended to find this intimidating. He speculated that she would end up sitting on the right hand of God and ensuring the Creator would do nothing she disapproved of.
42	* ''Literature/ReaperMan'': Mrs Cake is the sort of extremely busy older-middle-aged lady who priests dread having in their congregations (and not priests as in TheVicar, priests as in even the caretakers of remote trap-filled temples in ancient jungles know of and are afraid of her). Fortunately, her primary employment is as a spiritual medium (small) and she tends to walk out in a huff when hearing that the Gods are obliged to be disapproving of that sort of thing. Unfortunately, this usually only happens ''after'' she's taken over all the typical Church Lady duties, so the church collapses without her.
43	* ''Literature/SnowFallingOnCedars'': Art Moran is used to seeing Susan Marie Heine in her element at church, where she's perfectly dressed and made up while serving coffee. This is why it's unsettling for him to see her at home as a frazzled, frumpily dressed mom.
44	* Grace of ''Literature/TheStrangerTimes'' is a devout Christian who tries to straighten out her colleagues' vices (most obviously Banecroft's swearing) and will try to save the souls of monsters. She also mentions knowing a number of useful individuals through her church. While she can be overbearing at times, Grace is very kind and considers it her Christian duty to treat other people with compassion, even if the person in question is a vampire being held captive in the ''Times''' cellar.
45	* The TrueCrime books of Gregg Olsen feature a number of beloved Church Ladies killed at the hands of their husbands, among them Susan Cox Powell (Mormon), Ida Stutzman and Barbara Weaver (both Amish), and Dawn Hacheney (evangelical). A notable inversion in his books is Sharon Lynn Nelson, the wife of a Seventh-Day Adventist preacher who rejected her Church Lady duties and made herself a subject of local scandal for her outrageous dress and open infidelity. She went on to have two of her husbands killed at the hands of her longtime lover.
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49	* ''Series/TheBigBangTheory'' and ''Series/YoungSheldon'': Sheldon's mother, Mary, who is devoutly religious in contrast to avowed atheist Sheldon. Her portrayal falls mostly in the positive side, being a genuinely loving and patient mother despite her tendency to be judgmental. In ''Young Sheldon'' she works at the local church and is the only member of the Cooper family who takes faith seriously, making everyone say grace at the dinner table.
50	* ''Series/DesperateHousewives'': Bree van de Kamp is extremely dedicated to the church, attending every Sunday and forming a close relationship with Reverend Sykes. Although less traditionally sweet than the purely positive Church Lady and more judgmental and hypocritical, Bree is also a ProperLady with strong values, even if she doesn't always meet them herself.
51	* ''Series/FridayNightLights'': Following her infamous affair with Riggins, Lyla becomes a Church Lady for a brief period, proselytizing at every opportunity and cohosting a Christian radio call-in show for teens.
52	* ''{{Series/GCB}}'': Most of the main characters are this to an extent. Sweet and ditzy Sharon volunteers to help out Pastor Tudor with whatever he needs and in the process developing her Biblical diet program. On the other hand, Carlene runs roughshod over Pastor Tudor with her ScareEmStraight approach to getting the local teens to avoid immoral behavior.
53	* ''Series/GoodEats'': In the episode "Casserole Over," a trio of church ladies hold Alton's dog hostage, after catching him sampling their casseroles before the church social, in exchange for him making new ones for them.
54	* ''Series/KeepingUpAppearances'': Hyacinth commandeers all the Ladies' Guild activities but balks at the idea of getting her hands dirty. The Vicar tends to panic when he learns of her imminent arrival at the church.
55	* ''Series/KeyAndPeele'': Elderly Church Ladies Esther (Peele) and Georgina (Key) are devout enough to beat the Devil himself to a bloody pulp while he's inside one of their souls.
56	* ''Series/MidnightMass'':
57	** While the whole female cast is shown to be religious to a degree, the one who best fits this archetype is Bev Keane. Judgemental, self-centred, HolierThanThou, and racist, she builds her whole life around the church and Monsignor Pruitt (and his successor), up to and including covering up murder for him. Unlike the other equally religious but more heroic women like Erin, she takes most of her religious guidance from the church itself. At the end, she's also shown to take sadistic pleasure in [[spoiler:knowing that those who came to church will be "saved" from the vampire massacre while others will be condemned, viewing it as what they deserved. She doesn't even have the decency to die with the rest of the congregation, despite her apparent belief in it.]]
58	** There's also Annie, who is so keen on church attendance that she even persuades her atheist son, Riley, to attend with her because she hopes he'll find some genuine comfort from it. Unlike Bev, Annie embodies the purely positive features of this archetype, being gentle, kind, soft-spoken, and embodying a genuine and unselfish faith.
59	* The "Illuminaunties" in ''Series/MsMarvel2022'' seem to be the Muslim equivalent.
60	* ''Series/PhoenixNights'': [[MeaningfulName Holy Mary]], one member of the Phoenix Club's bar staff, is one of the friendliest staff members at the club, including towards her boss [[{{Jerkass}} Brian Potter]]. That said, she's NotSoAboveItAll, having come up with the idea to blackmail [[ObstructiveBureaucrat Keith Lard]] into reopening the Club by threatening to post forged photos of him [[BestialityIsDepraved having sex with a dog]] (as she puts it, "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone"), and she's very good at exploiting LoopholeAbuse when she's playing a fortune teller at the Phoenix Funfair.
61	* ''Series/SaturdayNightLive'':
62	** The TropeNamer is Dana Carvey's recurring character, known as the Church Lady, a HolierThanThou Christian who tends to blame everything on Sa-tan.
63	** Nancy Walls' most recurring character in her lone season (Season 21) was Gail Lafferty, a church volunteer who bullies the other volunteers at various events so she can get whatever it is she wants. She's even willing to bully the priest if he stands up to her.
64	* ''Series/SexAndTheCity'': Three different Synagogue Ladies forcefully set up Charlotte with their sons [[spoiler:just before she gets back together with Harry]]. One of these ladies takes a moment to correct Charlotte on her cookie platter arrangement.
65	* ''Series/TheSopranos'': In "Christopher," a speaker at a church luncheon criticizes mob-related stereotypes of Italian-Americans. Gabriella Dante is so incensed that she storms into Father Phil's office, accusing him of allowing an "outsider" to come in and implicitly insult the mob wives "who keep this parish alive year after year" like Carmela and herself.
66	* ''[[Series/AlanBennettsTalkingHeads Talking Heads]]'': In "Bed Among the Lentils", one of the things making the life of the Vicar's wife difficult is the 'fan club', a group of mature ladies who do volunteer activities like cleaning and decorating the church. They're the type who are gossipy and jealous of position and short of genuine Christian virtues.
67	* ''Series/TheTudors'': Katherine of Aragon is the best of this series' many examples. She takes genuine comfort from prayer and is devoted to her Catholic faith without being fanatical.
68	* ''Series/TheWhiteQueen'': Margaret Beaufort is the most devoutly religious of the leading ladies, retreating to the chapel the moment she's the slightest bit distressed.
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72	* Creator/WillSmith's album ''Lost and Found'' features "Ms. Holy Roller", about his ex-wife Sheree becoming a born-again Christian in her 30s and immediately judging him for everything she believes he's doing wrong with his life.
73	* The song "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uc80G6Yzu04 Mrs. Beamish]]", by Richard Stilgoe and Peter Skellern, is about a prim-and-proper Anglican lady who has been a "pillar" of her church for at least 20 years, and is indicated to play a significant role in its day-to-day running ("she does the flowers at Easter and the brass work on the door"). She also has ''very'' strongly-held, traditionalist views about how it should operate (slow, dirge-like hymns, thees and thous, etc), and isn't at all impressed with the changes being brought in by the new young vicar, which include guitars, a lax approach to formal dress and -- worst of all -- being expected to '''shake hands''' during the exchange of the Peace.[[note]] It should probably be noted that this song was written long before the advent of the UsefulNotes/COVID19Pandemic led the Church of England to actively discourage this practice.[[/note]]
74	* "The Mississippi Squirrel Revival" by Music/RayStevens is about a whole church full of snooty self-righteous types, but one called out by name is Sister Bertha Better-Than-You. When the squirrel gets a hold of her, she starts confessing to "sins that would make a sailor blush with shame".
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78	* In the Radio 4 one-off stand-up show ''Lucy Porter's Family Way'', Lucy describes a woman at church when she was young who was ''always'' on her way to or from a charitable endeavour, and wanted you to know about it. On one occasion, when she won the church raffle, and said it wasn't surprising since she bought so many tickets because it was a good cause, Lucy wound her up by saying that when ''she'' won a church raffle, she donated the prize back to the church so they could use it again, and the woman was forced to agree. Years later, when the same Church Lady was helping Lucy following her mother's death, she apologised for this, and the Church Lady admitted she hadn't done anything of the kind and had actually only bought one ticket.
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82	* ''Theatre/GuysAndDolls'': Sarah Brown and The General of the Save-a-Soul Mission lean more towards the positive aspects of the trope. Sarah in particular is portrayed as beautiful and pious, struggling to keep her branch of the mission afloat in a 1950s New York City full of unrepentant gamblers (which was not only seen as immoral, but ''illegal'' at the time). While she does learn to loosen up a bit around the charming gangster Sky Masterson, she manages to get Sky to stop gambling and join the mission by the time they get married at the end.
83	* ''Theatre/SixTheMusical'': Like her real-life counterpart, Catherine of Aragon is a devout Catholic, which causes a rift between her and her husband, Henry VIII, who wishes to divorce her and marry Anne Boleyn. She states that her loyalty is to the Vatican, and it's implied that she would genuinely rather be cheated on than be divorced. In the final song, where all of the queens sing about what their perfect ending would be, she ends up turning down Henry's proposal and instead joins a gospel choir in a convent.[[note]]In real life, Henry's courtiers did try to persuade Catherine to join a convent instead of fighting the divorce, but she adamantly refused. She believed this would signal implicit agreement that the marriage, and consequently their daughter's claim to the throne, really was invalid.[[/note]]
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87	* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIV'': Glenda is an Ishgardian noblewoman who, like many of her peers, is devout in her worship of Halone. She leans closer to the negative portrayal of this trope. She spends most of her days praying after her husband perished in the Dragonsong War and can spend hours lecturing others on church doctrine. She also cites her faith to justify her insistence that her {{Tomboy}} daughter Averil StayInTheKitchen, hiring the Warrior to teach Averil to sew as part of her "womanly duties". [[spoiler:Glenda is actually far more concerned for Averil's life, as she knows that Averil is studying conjury behind her back and is afraid that Averil would die on the battlefield like her father. Glenda finally relents after the Warrior sews Averil a set of robes not unlike the ones Glenda wore into battle in her youth, breaking down her Church Lady facade and finally telling Averil [[SoProudOfYou how proud of her she is.]]]]
88	* ''VideoGame/FireEmblemThreeHouses'': Out of all the playable characters (some of whom are equally religious), Mercedes pursues the life in service of TheChurch most consistently. As a student, she reveals her desire to join the priesthood, and after the mid-game TimeSkip, she, indeed, attains the status of a Bishop (even if [[GameplayAndStorySegregation only in terms of gameplay class, not in-story authority]]). Personality-wise, she is ThePollyanna who puts the needs of others above her own and never loses her temper; she is also the dedicated CombatMedic of her House. Most of her [[ModularEpilogue epilogues]], should she survive the war, see her joining the Church for real and spending the rest of her life in service to the Goddess.
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92	* ''Webcomic/GoblinHollow'': Ben runs into some trouble with a group of Church Ladies objecting to his arcade, whose leader absolutely blows her top when she finds the D&D room. Fortunately their pastor turns out to be a ReasonableAuthorityFigure who tells them to back off.
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96	* ''WesternAnimation/PostmanPat'': Miss Hubbard is a positive example, often seen in the village church, and she rings the church bells to help Pat find his way when he is lost in the fog.
97	* ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'':
98	** Helen Lovejoy is a Church Lady by default, being Rev. Lovejoy's wife, but she lives up to the trope quite well on her own. She's a notorious scandalmonger who sees threats to "the children" at every turn, mostly at any open mention of sexuality.
99	** Maude Flanders can be equally judgmental of non-Christian behavior, but she has a somewhat more serene personality than Helen. She once had to attend a Bible camp to learn how to be ''more'' judgmental.
100	** [[Characters/TheSimpsonsMargeSimpson Marge Simpson]] herself is an example, volunteering at the church often and at one point eclipsing Lovejoy in popularity with the congregation after becoming his secretary and beginning to help everyone with their problems, spurring the apathetic reverend to work harder to engage his flock.
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