Line #291 Characters/EminemBeefs


1	->''I’m sellin' hatred buffet style.\
2	All the shit you can eat, $11.99! So come on and pile a plate!\
3	I’m throwin' down the gauntlet to see what hell I can raise\
4	with the rhyme I’m spittin', while I’m shittin' on competition --\
5	In the meantime, it’s always mean-time.''
6	-->-- '''Eminem''', "Wicked Ways"
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8	Music/{{Eminem}}'s habit of MuseAbuse, {{Take That}}s and [[{{Jerkass}} just starting shit for little reason]] has led to him making a lot of enemies. Enough that they had to be split from his main Characters page.
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10	Due to the [[TheGadfly nature of Eminem's work]], this page is reserved for recurring punchbags, anti-muses, and beefs that had a significant impact on Eminem's life and career. For an exhaustive list of everyone Eminem has insulted in a song, a better place to start is Genius's archive of [[https://genius.com/Rap-genius-eminems-name-drops-annotated Eminem's name drops]].
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12	Note also that a character ''not'' being listed on this page (e.g. Mom, Dad, Stepdad, Kim, Steve Berman, [[HisOwnWorstEnemy Slim Shady]]) should ''by no means'' indicate that they are ''not'' beefing with Slim Shady.
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14	''[[center:Wait a minute, what am I sayin'? Allow me to run it back and rewind to the Main characters page -- [[Characters/{{Eminem}} blblblblblblblb —]]]]''
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16	!!Beefs
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18	[[folder:[=DeAngelo=] Bailey]]
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20	The school bully of a young Marshall, once battering him so severely he ended up comatose from a cerebral haemorrhage (which both Eminem and his mother has claimed was responsible for some of his mental health problems). He appears in the song "Brain Damage", a LifeEmbellished account of the incident. Eminem never mentioned him again in his music, but he made a vague allusion to the lawsuit Bailey slapped him with in "Without Me".
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22	!!Tropes applying to Bailey:
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24	* BarbaricBully: The beatdown he inflicts on the young Slim is so serious his shirt is soaked with blood.
25	* BullyBrutality: Bailey intends to ''actually kill'' Slim - Slim has to hold his breath and pretend to be dead for five whole minutes before Bailey (and the Principal) will leave.
26	* FatBastard: Bailey was the "fat kid" who bullied much smaller targets like Slim was at the time.
27	* FreudianExcuse: Slim implies that Bailey bullies other kids because his father beats him.
28	* GlassCannon: Sure, Bailey's big, mean, and shows no mercy to his victims, but he ''cannot'' take what he dishes out. After barely surviving a brutal beating at the bully's hands, Slim Shady raids a nearby janitor's closet for tools to use as improvised weapons... except he ends up not even needing most of them since Bailey goes down after Slim hits him in the head with a broom a few times.
29	* NoHoldsBarredBeatdown: He shows young Slim absolutely no mercy once he has him cornered.
30	-->''He banged my head against the urinal till he broke my nose\
31	Soaked my clothes in blood, grabbed me and choked my throat\
32	I tried to plead and tell him "We shouldn't beef"\
33	But he just wouldn't leave, he kept chokin' me and I couldn't breathe''
34	* PersecutionFlip: Bailey (who is Black) screams racist language at Slim (white) before battering him, but Slim appears to think Bailey just targeted him because he was small and weird.
35	* StartOfDarkness: Subverted. While in real life, Bailey's assault gave Eminem brain damage, in the song, it isn't what causes Shady to develop the brain damage that made him AxCrazy -- that happened courtesy of casual abuse from his Mom. And in Slim's account, he was born disordered anyway - in the hook, he says "'''''ever since the day I was born,''''' ''drugs're what they used to say I was on''".
36	* ThinSkinnedBully: As vicious as Bailey is, he goes down rather quickly once Shady decides enough is enough and fights back.
37	* VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory: In real life, while Bailey did bully Marshall Mathers as brutally as shown here, some details (like their ages) were embellished while others (the teachers and principal helping Bailey, and Slim taking violent revenge with a broom) are clearly fiction. The real-life Bailey tried to sue Eminem for defamation of character after "Brain Damage" came out, only for the judge to dismiss the case via impromptu rap freestyle ([[https://hiphophero.com/when-eminems-childhood-bully-tried-to-sue-him-and-failed/?amp yes]], [[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer this really happened]]) partially on the grounds that the song's content is so transparently fictional that no sensible person would ever believe it.
38	* VillainWithGoodPublicity: When the school principal happens upon Bailey kicking Slim's ass, he enthusiastically joins in. More generally, the teachers seem to be well aware of Bailey's violent behavior but [[BystanderSyndrome have zero interest in stopping it]].
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41	[[folder:Benzino]]
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43	Ray Benzino, former editor of ''The Source'', entered a beef with Eminem in the early 2000s. Eminem, who had been making swipes at ''The Source'' since they gave a mediocre review to Young Zee's ''Musical Meltdown''[[note]]Zee was a member of Outsidaz, a New Jersey collective of which Eminem was also a loose member[[/note]], had claimed ''The Source'' was biased against him for his race when the magazine gave ''Music/TheEminemShow'' a four out of five mics, resulting in Benzino repeatedly dissing him on the basis that Eminem was a [[PrettyFlyForAWhiteGuy racist stealing hip-hop]]. Eminem's attempts to [[DissTrack take Benzino down]] and clear his name was largely successful, highlighting Benzino's unsavory editorial practices and getting him deposed from his magazine by his own staff. While Eminem would not emerge from the beef with his reputation unscathed, Benzino's ended up [[MemeticLoser in tatters]], now mostly remembered for inspiring several of Eminem's meanest and funniest songs. And a couple of his most mature and meaningful. And several of his silliest.
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45	Benzino makes an extraordinary number of appearances compared to Eminem's other beefs, appearing in "Say What You Say", "The Invasion (The Realest)", "The Sauce", "Nail In The Coffin", "Welcome to Detroit City", "Go To Sleep", "We All Die One Day", "The Invasion (The Conspiracy)", "The Invasion (Armageddon)", "Doe Rae Me (Hailie's Revenge)", "Keep Talkin'", "Wrong", "Bully", "Fubba U Cubba Cubba", "Like Toy Soldiers", "My 1st Single", "Bump Heads", "Hail Mary", "I'm Gone", "Never Enough", "Big Weenie", "Gatman and Robbin" and "Killshot". "Yellow Brick Road" does not mention Benzino, but was inspired by his actions in their beef. "As The World Turns", "Get You Mad" and "Bad Influence" make insulting references to Benzino's magazine, ''The Source'', but at that point the beef hadn't turned personal. Despite the beef fading in the mid-00s, Eminem released a diss track about him in 2024, "Doomsday Pt. 2", due to Benzino taking an anti-Eminem media circuit.
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47	!!Tropes applying to Benzino in Eminem's music:
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49	* AddledAddict: In Eminem's telling, Benzino's a paranoid due to his prodigious abuse of weed. (Eminem, at the time, had told the media he'd given up drugs and was having fun being a SmugStraightEdge about it. Unfortunately, this was not the case.)
50	* ArcFatigue:[[invoked]] Eminem eventually became really, ''really'' sick of Benzino due to viewing him as an unworthy opponent and use of his time, while his own pettiness prevented him from being able to leave him alone. His last few songs and verses released as part of the beef are increasingly bored pleas for Benzino to accept the beef is over and leave him alone. This contributed to ''Music/{{Encore}}'''s AlbumFiller issues, since tracks addressing the beef were removed in order to replace them with "Like Toy Soldiers", which lyrically (and visually, in the video) shows him laying down his mic and walking away from the beef. Benzino self-declared himself to be Eminem's ArchNemesis and continued slinging insults at him on-and-off for several decades. He eventually got banned from Twitter for insulting Eminem on there in the 2020s, and is beefing with him to this day.
51	* ArchNemesis: Benzino self-declared himself to be this. While the relationship is somewhat one-sided, he is probably the closest candidate (excluding Eminem's family members and Eminem himself), having inspired a much larger body of work than any other rapper who went up against him and being chiefly remembered ''for'' fighting Eminem for a year and getting pasted. Eminem inexplicably returning to diss him in the mid-2020s appears to reinforce this relationship.
52	* BiasSteamroller: In "Bad Influence", Slim pokes fun at the dissonance between ''The Source'''s mediocre reviews of him, and everybody else's praise:
53	-->But I would like an award for The Best Rapper To Get One Mic In ''The Source''...
54	* BigStupidDoodooHead: Slim's bratty personality tends to come out around Benzino. It's most prominent in "Big Weenie", where Em excoriates Benzino's tendency to "say all these really mean things because you are a meanie". Downplayed in "Doomsday Pt. 2", where Slim's initial objections to Benzino revolve around his bizarre physical build, calling him [the opposite of] a giraffe.
55	* BerserkButton: In "Bully", seeing Eminem on MTV is enough to set him spinning and spiralling in a [[WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes Tasmanian Devil-like]] fury.
56	* BoisterousWeakling: Described by Eminem as "''a 83-year-old fake Pacino''" talking big and having no ability to back it up.
57	-->''What's little and talks big?''
58	* BoomerangBigot: Eminem flings racist rhetoric at, specifically, Benzino's white side, calling him a white rapper and "Vanilla Ice", and pointing out that they both have a shared experience of being rejected for the colour of their skin in hip-hop.
59	* FourPointScale: Discussed in "The Sauce", in which Eminem explains that if you get a 3 out of 5 mics, you suck, if you get a 4, you're dope, and if you get a 5, you're either Music/TheNotoriousBIG or Benzino. (Benzino had been known to give 5 mic scores to his own projects or associated acts, which even his own magazine staff, such as Kim Osorio, called him out on.)
60	* DaEditor: Eminem uses imagery associated with this to mock him, describing him as spinning around in his executive chair with his sleeves rolled up, with his feet up at his desk, bellowing at his underlings and smoking (weed, instead of the stereotypical cigars).
61	* DrivenByEnvy: Benzino is described as being motivated by jealousy, both of Eminem's success and his abilities as a rapper.
62	* EntitledBastard: At the beginning of "Bully", Em sings in-character as Benzino for a couple of bars, saying he's entitled to have Eminem fuss over him, and viewing Eminem ignoring him as 'a complete lack of respect'.
63	* EverythingIsRacist: Eminem thinks Benzino accused him of racism simply for being a better rapper than him. This characterisation is used on numerous songs, such as his hypothetical campaign against Music/JustinTimberlake for being a racist for having sex with Britney Spears in "My 1st Single".
64	* ForcedOutOfTheCloset: Eminem's main attack on Benzino in "Doomsday Pt. 2" is to out him as on the DL. While Eminem being homophobic isn't surprising, he'd [[ForgotFlandersCouldDoThat toned this aspect of his music down significantly since the 2000s]], indicating just how little Eminem can stand him.
65	* HighAltitudeInterrogation: "Nail In The Coffin" imagines a scene of Benzino trying this on Em, but being so physically weak that Em's (meagre) weight pulls him out of the window too, resulting in Benzino ending up "''[[MadeOfPlasticine all over the street]], like Music/FiftyCent''".
66	* InferioritySuperiorityComplex: In "Bully", Eminem suggests that Benzino's belligerence is because deep down he's just depressed.
67	* InspirationalInsult: "Nail In The Coffin" is presented as some BrutalHonesty from Eminem to the older man, pointing out his career is over and he can still have a little bit of dignity if he stops fighting it.
68	* JadedWashout: In Em's characterisation, Benzino is an ageing tyrant realising he lost his opportunity at success and picking a fight with a wildly popular rapper to try and gain some relevance.
69	* NerdyBully: Eminem imagines him as this in "Bully", an immature and fixated schoolboy geek using his magazine to say mean things about his victim because he is too cowardly to actually fight him like a man.
70	* NotSoHarmlessVillain: Despite Eminem's mocking of Benzino as a gnat compared to him, his unveiling of Eminem's embarrassing teenage "Foolish Pride" song did permanent damage to Eminem and is still controversial today with some audiences. Eminem commented in interviews that what Ray did was the ''only'' thing that could have brought down Eminem.
71	* OutsideInsideSlur: "''I got a riddle! What's little and talks big, with two midget arms and creamy white fillin' in the middle?''"
72	* PerilousOldFool: Eminem repeatedly mocks him for his willingness to believe he's a violent gangster at his age (in early middle age at the time of the beef) - "''nobody wants to hear their grandfather rap!''". While some point out the fact that Eminem is currently older than Benzino was at the time of the beef, Em's view of it was more to do with Benzino's abilities, wondering why "the worst rapper in the world" would decide to go up against himself, one of the best.
73	* PointyHairedBoss: Eminem characterises him as a mean incompetent, floated into his position by ''The Source'''s white owners.
74	* RememberWhenYouBlewUpASun: Destroying Benzino's career is one of Eminem's proudest moments as a battle rapper. In "Killshot", there's a brief ContinuityCavalcade of Benzino references as Eminem emphasises to Music/MachineGunKelly the careers he has destroyed -- "''next to Benzino, die! motherfucker[[note]]a quote from the hook of his Benzino diss "Go To Sleep", quoted with the exact same cadence[[/note]], like the ''last'' motherfucker saying 'Hailie' in vain!... nails, in these, coffins[[note]]a reference to his Benzino diss "Nail In The Coffin"[[/note]] as soft as Cottonelle...''"
75	* SkewedPriorities: In "My 1st Single," Benzino gets hold of child porn starring Brittney Spears and Justin Timberlake, and all he cares about is that [[MondegreenGag it sounded like Justin said the N-word]] when he was actually saying [[CallingYourOrgasms something entirely different]].
76	* {{Slimeball}}: His basic characterisation in Eminem's disses is a repulsive, unhygienic washout running his magazine like a tyrant and willing to stoop to any muckraking low to assuage his ego.
77	* SmallNameBigEgo: Eminem casts him as a mediocre talent convinced he's a far better rapper and editor than he actually is, targeting Eminem out of envy that deep down, he knows what he is.
78	* [[StageMom Stage Dad]]:
79	** In "Nail In The Coffin", Eminem snarls that, unlike Benzino, he would never try and make his daughter into a star so he could exploit her for money. This was in reference to Benzino promoting his son Ray Ray's rap career, but has become HilariousInHindsight after Benzino's daughter Coi Leray accused him of trying to sponge off her success.
80	** In "The Sauce", he accuses Benzino of using Ray Ray to get some vicarious fame "''because you missed your boat''".
81	* TakeThatCritics: As editor of ''The Source'', Benzino was technically a music critic, which is why Eminem started to come at him in the first place -- presumably Timothy White (the Billboard writer who picketed the Interscope offices every night back on "Bitch Please II") was only saved from a DissTrack war due to the fact he didn't put it on wax.
82	* WorstNewsJudgmentEver: In "My 1st Single", ''The Source'' get hold of an underage sex tape of Britney with her then boyfriend Music/JustinTimberlake, at a time when culture was obsessed with her virginity. Instead, Benzino's story on it is based on the idea that Justin's GruntingOrgasm sounded a little bit like the N-word.
83	* WouldHurtAChild: Benzino's threats to shoot Hailie resulted in the beef getting as heated as it did.
84	* YouAreWhatYouHate: In Eminem's telling, Benzino's Black nationalism is embarrassing, seeing as he's half-white, with white family members, and working for a white magazine owner. "''Vanilla Ice, spill the beans and rice!''".
85	* "''YoureJustJealous: ...of me because ''you'', you just can't do what I ''do'', so you just look like ''an idiot'', so instead of just ''admitting it'', you walk around and ''say'' all kinds of really mean ''things'' about me 'cause you're ''[[BigStupidDoodooHead a meanie]]''. A meanie.''"
86	* YouWouldntShootMe: Throughout "Nail In The Coffin", Eminem ''dares'' Benzino to make good on all his violent threats, seeing as his old age and total lack of cultural significance or money would prevent him from doing any of it.
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90	[[folder:Canibus]]
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92	Canibus is a battle rapper from Canada[[note]]in Eminem's telling – in reality, he is from Jamaica[[/note]] known for his hyperlexic lyrical style filled with spiritual and scientific imagery, and for getting his ass handed to him in a beef with Music/LLCoolJ which managed to drag in Eminem. This beef is notable for its semi-affectionate tone, with both rappers having respect for each other's abilities… but not each others' personalities or politics.
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94	In 1998, Canibus was being mentored by [[Music/TheFugees Wyclef Jean]], on the verge of hitting the mainstream, and had just been slapped by "The Ripper Strikes Back", an Music/LLCoolJ DissTrack against him. Wyclef claimed "The Ripper Strikes Back" was ghostwritten by Eminem, which Eminem denied. Regardless, Eminem offered Bus a guest verse on his upcoming album, ''Music/TheSlimShadyLP''; Bus turned it down, worrying the fat, acne-riddled, bespectacled, brunette and above all [[ButNotTooWhite pallid]] rapper would be a flash-in-the-pan novelty artist. Canibus released his major label debut album ''Can-I-Bus'' which underperformed and got him dropped by his label – Eminem, by now [[BeautifulAllAlong transformed by exercise, skincare, contact lenses, and above all hydrogen peroxide]], released his major label debut album to massive commercial and critical success. When Eminem then turned down the opportunity for a guest feature on Bus's song "Phuck U", Bus felt Eminem had pulled the ladder up behind him, and the two rappers began going at it in passive-aggressive earnest.
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96	Eminem's irritation with Bus was at its strongest in 2002, when Bus released a ConceptAlbum in character as Stan from "Stan", using the character to promote reactionary and jingoistic politics that infuriated the liberal, LGBT-supporting, Bush-bashing Marshall. Eminem accompanying LL Cool J's induction into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame in 2021, in which LL's speech at the end thanked Canibus, is the closest the beef has come to being squashed.
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98	Canibus appears in "Role Model", "Get U Mad", "Square Dance", "Can-I-Bitch", "Nail In The Coffin", "I'm Marshall", "My Name", "Love Me ([[FreestyleVersion Freestyle]])" and "Bang", as well as various skits (especially the "Funkmaster Flex" skit on Obie Trice's ''Cheers''). Various songs are considered to contain subliminal disses to him, of which the most likely candidates are "Business", "Without Me", "Say What You Say" and "When The Music Stops".
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100	!!Tropes associated with Canibus in Eminem's telling:
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102	* AnswerSong:
103	** While it's far outlived the record it answered, "Square Dance" is a response to Canibus's "Draft Me", in which Canibus expressed support for a US military draft so he could go kill some terrorists. "Square Dance" attempts to persuade Eminem's young fans that WarIsHell and to dodge any draft that comes for them, while also flinging insults at "Canibitch".
104	** Canibus released an entire answer ''album'' to "Stan", ''C! True Hollywood Stories'', in which he and his posse save Stan from drowning, leading him to become a great rapper and a soldier winning the War on Terror. Eminem mocked him for doing this in his response song, "Can-I-Bitch", in which he mocked Bus for turning his character into a PossessionSue[[invoked]], calling him "Stanibus".
105	* BigStupidDoodooHead: Eminem loved using this to undercut Canibus's grandiose style, using intentionally crude insults like calling him "Canibitch" and making fun of his voice.
106	* BodyPaint: Canibus was painted silver for his performance at the 1998 [=VMAs=]. In "Can I Bitch", Eminem imagines a scene of Bus getting Wyclef to paint his ass.
107	* CopycatMockery: Eminem does an impression of Canibus's gravelly voice and aggressive, dancehall-infused cadence, and used this often to mock him. Canibus could also do a pretty solid impression of Eminem's voice, using it to play Stan throughout ''C! True Hollywood Stories''.
108	* CourteousCanadian: Eminem claims in both "Can-I-Bitch" and "Square Dance" that Canibus is Canadian, much like LL Cool J did in "Back Where I Belong". There is no evidence for this; it's likely that LL and Em were banking on the stereotype of Canadians as overly polite and non-confrontational, which would be a grievous insult to someone like Bus who prided himself on his BattleRapping skills.
109	* FauxSymbolism[[invoked]]: Eminem's caricature of Bus's lyrics turns them into this kind of gibberish.
110	-->...before metaphors were ''Reservoir Dogs'', before Christ was hung on the cross, before--''(gets gunned down by Slim)''
111	* HerCodenameWasMarySue: Eminem responds to Canibus writing a concept album from the perspective of a resurrected Stan by calling him "Stanibus", suggesting Bus must relate to Stan so much because they're both [[StalkerWithACrush gay stalkers]].
112	* IneffectualSympatheticVillain: Eminem casts Bus as this, especially in "Can-I-Bitch" – a miserable supervillain whose CD didn't sell mailing bomb threats to Shady Records, which Slim ignores until [[HeteronormativeCrusader he realises that Bus is gay for him]] and goes to beat him up for that reason. When Dre and Slim's Dynamic Duo catch up with Bus on the bridge from "Stan", Bus doesn't even bother to fight back, resulting in Slim begging him to hit him or "do something!"
113	* InspirationalInsult: "Can I Bitch" was a response to an entire diss ConceptAlbum from Canibus, ''C! True Hollywood Stories'', in which Canibus rapped in character as Stan from Eminem's famous song, dumbing down his [[SignatureStyle signature]] SesquipedalianLoquaciousness into a [[FollowTheLeader pastiche of Eminem's flow]] as part of the process. "Can I Bitch" is a deliberately [[SubvertedKidsShow childish-sounding]] track, designed so that Canibus wouldn't take the insults to heart, and tells the story of Eminem and Music/DrDre driving to fight Canibus in the Batmobile while mourning Canibus changing his distinctive style. When they meet him, Canibus won't fight back, culminating in a long speech from Eminem in which he begs Canibus to stand up for himself, implying Bus could have a dedicated fandom like him if he got his act together. Canibus got the message, releasing several albums in something closer to his original style and allowing the beef to cool off. Until 2009, anyway.
114	-->Hold up! Bus, quit foldin' up!\
115	Punch me in the chest, make my shoulders touch!\
116	Do something! At least one punchline!\
117	Come on! 'Til the meter reads Nine! Nine! Nine-[[note]]a reference to a Canibus lyric from "How We Roll" - "''I'll hop into the back seat of a cab and rhyme till the meter says Nine, Nine, Nine, Nine!''"[[/note]]\
118	-ty nine percent of my fans are blond! [[note]]a reference to a Canibus lyric dissing Music/LLCoolJ - "''99% of Cool J's fans [[EstrogenBrigade wear high heels]]''". LL responded with the ice-cold "''99% of Canibus's fans don't exist''". Eminem subtly reminds Canibus of LL's insult, but turns it into a [[BoastfulRap brag]] about his own [[LoonyFan scarily dedicated fandom]], implying Canibus could have one of his own if he tried harder.[[/note]]\
119	Bus, come on, [[IKnowYoureInThereSomewhereFight answer me, man, respond!]]\
120	Tell me 'bout the sun, rain, moon and stars!\
121	Intergalactical metaphors from Mars! [[note]]a reference to Canibus's melodramatic, grandiose style[[/note]]\
122	Raw to the floor, raw like ''Film/ReservoirDogs''!\
123	Bite another line from Redman's song! [[note]]Redman used the line "''raw like Film/ReservoirDogs''" in "How High" - Canibus later bragged "'''Bus is raw, raw to the floor, raw like reservoirs''" in "The Rip Off". "Raw" in hip-hop slang means original, so Eminem is mocking him for plagiarising his boasts about being original.[[/note]]
124	* InternetJerk: Eminem imagines Bus as this due to his tech background and his occasional references in his lyrics to forum battles, calling him a "nerdy internet-computer hip-hop head".
125	* MaliciousMisnaming: Eminem calls him "Canibitch", "[[LoonyFan Stanibus", "Fanibitch"]], "Canada-diss" and "Kenny 'Fag' Kaniff".
126	* OpponentInstruction: "Can-I-Bitch" contains numerous scenes of Eminem begging Bus to stop [[FollowTheLeader emulating]][[invoked]] Eminem's style and sound to get successful, and go back to the "''style you was rappin' with when you was scandalous''". Canibus took this advice, and released several albums that were, while not Eminem-successful, far more critically acclaimed.
127	* StealthInsult: "Role Model"'s opening lyric "''I'm cancerous, so when I diss, you wouldn't wanna answer this if you responded back with a battle rap you wrote for Canibus''" puzzled Bus as he couldn't figure out if it was an insult or not. On the one hand, the boast only makes sense if Canibus's battle raps were the strongest rhymes available. On the other hand, it implies Canibus uses ghostwriters – especially nasty considering Eminem's accusation of ghostwriting for LL.
128	* {{Technobabble}}: Canibus's background in the tech industry led to him developing a tremendous vocabulary of STEM jargon. Eminem parodies this by mocking his style with sesquipedalian scientific gibberish.
129	* TooQuirkyToLose: "Can-I-Bitch", a PsychedelicComedyBromance song so silly that Bus couldn't reply, as he couldn't even figure out if it was supposed to insult him.
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132	[[folder:Mariah Carey and Nick Cannon]]
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134	Music/MariahCarey is an R&B and gospel singer-songwriter famous for her MelismaticVocals and her early willingness to record [[AWildRapperAppears crossover songs with hip-hop stars]] -- a willingness that brought her into contact with Eminem, when she approached him in 2001 in order to trade guest verses (with her being set to appear on ''Music/TheEminemShow'', and him being set to appear on ''Charmbracelet''). This did not end up happening.
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136	The actual circumstances of what went on between the musicians is unclear, as both have a contradictory story and both are lying. In Mariah's telling, they never had a relationship and barely knew each other -- but he inspired two {{Diss Track}}s from her, and she has a habit of denying failed romantic relationships, even ones that were extensively documented. Eminem has claimed they were not only dating but did all kinds of gross sex acts, and that Mariah is a drunk -- but he would later backtrack on most of these claims, later claiming he was too bad at sex for her to be willing to sleep with him more than once. He's claimed he has compromising voice mails of her and used these in stage shows, but it's likely this was audio they made for their musical collaborations.
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138	However, Mariah remains a fixture in Eminem's lyrical mixture, with her then-husband Creator/NickCannon (a former child star and reality TV host) inserting himself in the dispute in 2009 to defend his wife from Eminem's "racism". She appears in "Superman", "When The Music Stops", live performances of "Ass Like That", 2005 Anger Management Tour stage skits, "Jimmy Crack Corn", "Bagpipes From Baghdad" and "The Warning". "Puke" is about Kim, but appears to have been inspired by Mariah in part. Nick appears in "Bagpipes From Baghdad", "The Warning", "Lord Above"... and a lot of [[StealthInsult subliminals]], ''possibly''.
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140	!!Tropes applying to Mariah and Nick:
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142	* CelebrityBreakupSong: "Bagpipes From Baghdad" was intended by Eminem to be a warning to Nick that Mariah was a total psycho. In "Lord Above", he chides the now divorced Nick for not listening to him.
143	* ComicallyLopsidedRivalry: Eminem's only actually "dissed" Nick in "Bagpipes from Baghdad", and has claimed that Nick misinterpreted the song, which had been intended to wish the lovers good luck (though it's not hard to see how he could have "misinterpreted" lyrics like "''I mean, I really want you bad, you cunt -- Nick, you had your fun, I've come to kick you in your sack of junk''"). Nick has released numerous diss tracks against Eminem, including posse cuts, for over a decade, without inspiring more than the occasional subliminal telling him to come back when he can rap while keeping on time with the snare. Eminem continued to NoSell his attempts until 2019, when he sent him a couple of insulting tweets in response to Nick trying to smear him as secretly gay.
144	* EmbarrassingTattoo: Slim has claimed to have the same tattoo that's on Nick's back (a giant tattoo of Mariah's name).
145	%%* {{Gaslighting}}: Mariah's second DissTrack aimed at Eminem, "Obsessed", accuses him of this. Eminem responds by accusing ''her'' of this.
146	* InternetJerk: In "On Fire", Nick gets a subliminal diss for shitting on him in an unhinged blog post.
147	* InstantTurnOff: According to Eminem, Mariah lost interest in him after he came too early.
148	* LadyDrunk: Em calls her a drunk in both "Superman" and "Bagpipes From Baghdad".
149	* LetsSeeYouDoBetter: In "On Fire", Em baits Nick by warning him, ''"So, the next time you blog, try to spit a flow -- you want to criticize, dog? Try a little mo'!"''
150	* LovesMyAlterEgo: In the alleged voice clips, Mariah moans for "Slim Shady" -- never ''Marshall''. Probably, this is because the voice clips were recorded for a song or skit, but it doesn't give the impression the lovers had a particularly deep emotional connection.
151	* MelismaticVocals: Some fans think Eminem's use of melismatic vowels on the MisogynySong "Puke" are him making fun of Mariah Carey's iconic vocal style -- a reading supported by the fact that he opened live performances of "Puke" by playing Mariah Carey's alleged sexy voice mails.
152	* MisogynySong: Mariah seems to have inspired a lot of Eminem's uglier songs in this regard, with "Superman" being particularly brutal.
153	* MuseAbuse: In "Bagpipes From Baghdad", Eminem cooes at Mariah, "''you can be a fixture in my lyrical mixture''", damning her to a lifetime of this.
154	* PsychoExGirlfriend: In Eminem's telling, Mariah's an absolute lunatic, denying they had any connection to make him look stupid in public while also insulting him.
155	* SpeakOfTheDevil: In "These Demons":
156	-->I got a question.
157	-->''What?''
158	-->What rhymes with "pariah"?
159	-->''I don't know.''
160	-->Mm, uh, LEGO?
161	-->''Oh shit.''
162	* SpeedSex: In "The Warning", Eminem claims he "''nutted early''", which grossed out Mariah and made her claim she was going to puke. If true, it possibly inspired the similar sequence in "Superman", which casts Slim as the lover threatening to vomit, and hints at how much Mariah inspired "Puke". (Friends of Mariah have claimed Eminem's bedroom performance was even worse, and that he [[JizzedInMyPants Jizzed In His Pants]] before he could even get his clothes off, which would go some way to explaining the intensity of Mariah's disappointment and disgust.)
163	* TermsOfEndangerment: In "The Warning", Em goes back and forth with voice clips of Mariah, using what he claims is their [[AffectionateNickname sexy nicknames]] for each other. Mariah calls him "Artful Dodger" and "Superhero". Eminem calls her "Mary Poppins" and "Pumpkin".
164	* ThePrimaDonna: During live performances of "Ass Like That" and "Puke" he would call her "annoying", and in "The Warning" he'd describe her as "psycho". On "The Warning" he would call her a "slut-bitch-cunt".
165	* TortureCellar: In "Bagpipes From Baghdad", Mariah is amusingly accused of having a wine cellar she uses as a dungeon. She keeps Slim locked up in it.
166	* VoiceClipSong: The third verse of "The Warning" has Slim rhyming back and forth with cut-up voice clips of Mariah.
167	* WhatTheHellHero: Music/BustaRhymes, a great fan of Eminem and a good friend of Mariah, stepped in to intervene with the beef after Eminem's threat to release revenge porn of Mariah in "The Warning" went too far.
168
169	[[/folder]]
170
171	[[folder:Machine Gun Kelly]]
172	[[quoteright:316:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/eminem_killshot.jpg]]
173	[[caption-width-right:316:It's your moment. This is it, as big as you're gonna get, so enjoy it.\
174	''Had to give you a career to destroy it!'']]
175
176	Music/MachineGunKelly is a rapper, actor and, later, {{pop punk}} musician known for his rockstar fashion, extensive tattoos and beef with Eminem in 2018. He accused Eminem of banning his music from his radio station [=Shade45=] due to a tweet in which he called Hailie (underage at the time) hot. In response, Eminem jabbed at him in "The Ringer" and "Not Alike", resulting in MGK retorting with "Rap Devil".
177	\
178	Eminem's AnswerSong, "Killshot", is not only the highest-charting DissTrack of all time (as of 2022), but was Eminem's most critically acclaimed project since ''Music/TheEminemShow'', serving as a CareerResurrection for him. Eminem has claimed he's moved on from the beef, but apparently not enough for him to resist gloating about it in "Yah Yah", "Unaccommodating", "No Regrets" and "Gospel". "Marsh" also contains multiple subliminals aimed at Kells.
179
180	!!Tropes applying to Machine Gun Kelly in Eminem's telling:
181
182	* BaddieFlattery: Kelly is such a Stan that he couldn't resist praising Eminem even on his diss track. Eminem is suitably bemused by this, outright asking if "Rap Devil" was meant to be "a death threat or a love letter?"
183	-->''Wait, you just dissed me? I'm perplexed\
184	Insult me on a line, compliment me on the next''
185	* CallingTheOldManOut: Kells insulted Em by accusing him of unfair actions and calling him "Dad", which Em plays along with, acting like a [[CondescendingCompassion condescending]] WellDoneSonGuy who calls Kells "son" and awards him "a B for the effort".
186	* CombatCompliment:
187	** While Eminem does not view MGK as a worthy opponent, he compliments "Rap Devil" twice in "Killshot" -- first giving it "''a B for the effort''", and second, by thanking MGK for writing it in the first place, giving him the retroactive justification for having gone in on him. It's worth making the observation that Kells may have got his praise for being the first rapper of note to drop a full AnswerSong in response to getting insulted on ''Kamikaze'' -- and as it turned out, the only one. All other responses to the album were tweets, podcasts, and one or two freestyles and throwaway sublims.
188	** In Em's ''Kamikaze'' interview with Crook, he admitted that "Rap Devil" was a good diss... for Kells. Obie Trice also stated his opinion that "Rap Devil" is the strongest diss Eminem was ever hit with.
189	** Kells also got in on this -- in "Rap Devil", he praises "Not Alike" as a strong diss. Eminem responds by thanking him for his part in its creation.
190	* ComplimentBackfire: MGK's strategy of creating a dramatic APupilOfMineUntilHeTurnedToEvil dynamic by calling Eminem "the greatest rapper alive", his former hero and inspiration, praising the diss track he made about him, gushing about his greatness, the movie they made about him, etc., just results in Eminem mocking him for being a [[LoonyFan Loony Stan]] in love with him.
191	* DamnedByAFoolsPraise: Downplayed. Kells's inability to count how many albums Eminem had made after ''Recovery'' is worthy of a verbal slap on its own, but Kells thinking ''Recovery'' was his last good album also displays his lack of understanding of what makes good rap, especially after multiple lines on ''Kamikaze'' showed Eminem expressing CreatorBacklash[[invoked]] to his ''Recovery'' musical style and persona.
192	* DirtyCoward: Eminem is unimpressed with MGK's initial reluctance to confront him directly, instead hiding behind {{stealth insult}}s in [[Music/TechN9ne another rapper]]'s posse cut.
193	* [[DoNotCallMePaul Do Not Call Me 'Marshall']]: In "Rap Devil", Kells refers to Eminem as "Marshall" ("''Hello Marshall! My name's Colson. You should go back to ''Recovery''.''") When Eminem paraphrases him in "Killshot", he corrects it to "Slim" (''""Yo, Slim, your last four albums sucked, go back to Recovery!!"''), implying Kells does not have the right to address the real Marshall and should stick to dealing with the evil twin.
194	* EmasculatedCuckold: Em theorizes in "Killshot" that Kells' attitude is because Music/{{Halsey}} is sleeping with Music/GEazy. (Kells had claimed he was fucking her behind G-Eazy's back in a freestyle; Eminem flips this around to make Kells the cuckold.)
195	* EvilIsPetty: "''Let's see who can out-petty who.''" (It's Eminem, whose reason for dissing MGK is that ''he just doesn't like him''.)
196	* FreakyFashionMildMind: Kells is so worried about his stylish fashion that it detracts from his ability to rap. In contrast, Em is one of the most iconic rappers of all time yet has a much more casual fashion sense.
197	-->''Your red sweater, your black leather\
198	You dress better? I rap better''
199	* FoeRomanceSubtext: Eminem is confused by how gushing Kells' diss is, and wonders if he was sent a love letter. (A flip of Kells' accusations in "Rap Devil" that Eminem wrote a whole album about him[[note]]he didn't -- Kells gets a verse to himself in "Not Alike" and a jab on "The Ringer", and nothing else[[/note]], so he must be in love with him. In Em's telling, Kells is an erotomaniac Stan just for making that assertion.)
200	* GayBravado: "Killshot" ends with Em telling Kells to keep Em's dick in his mouth and stop talking about his daughter.
201	* GoAndSinNoMore: In "Unaccommodating", Eminem forgives Kells with explicitly religious language, saying that God forgives everyone, even devil worshippers.
202	* GoodHairEvilHair: Eminem uses MGK's man-bun to deride him as a harmless, pseudo-rebellious weakling.
203	* HeartBeatdown: In "Not Alike", Eminem can't lose in a rap battle against Kells because Em -- defending his daughter -- has ThePowerOfLove on his side.
204	-->Heavy artille—ry, Godzilla harsh with a hard shell\
205	With a motherfucking heart bigger than Bizarre's belly
206	* HesBack: After the insecurity of ''Revival'' and the nervous CantTakeCriticism of ''Kamikaze'', Machine Gun Kelly's diss could well have finished Eminem's career off. However, his inability to insult Eminem without praising him and [[NotSoDifferentRemark equivocating the two of them]] forced Em to retort by reminding MGK how inferior he was in comparison, resulting in "Killshot" being a well-earned BoastfulRap cut without a shred of SelfDeprecation.
207	-->[[WinBackTheCrowd The game's mine]][[invoked]] again, and ain't nothing changed but [[ExpositoryHairstyleChange the locks]]!
208	* HollywoodHomely:[[invoked]] Kells called Eminem 'ugly' in "Rap God", so Eminem responds by saying Kells is better dressed but not better ''looking'', describing him as a "little white toothpick" ripping off Eminem's blond-hair-and-earrings look. Objectively speaking, both men are [[SlidingScaleOfBeauty professionally handsome]] and both were [[PrettyBoy cute and boyish-looking enough]] to have careers as {{Teen Idol}}s well into their 30s.
209	* HollywoodSatanism: Eminem, a proud Christian who never went the devil-worship route even as a [[ShockRock shock-rapper]] during the tail end of the SatanicPanic, accuses Kells of being this for his edgy devil imagery and antagonism towards the Rap God.
210	* InsultBackfire:
211	** Kells attempts to cast Eminem as an old man soaking up attention past his prime, refusing to allow young rappers like him to compete or to speak to the young. Eminem agrees that he's way more popular and successful than Kells, remains the poet of choice for the world's angry ten-year-olds, and that no other rappers can measure up to him.
212	** Kells jeers at Eminem for not going outside -- "''last time you saw 8 Mile was on a treadmill!''"[[note]]punning off the actual 8 Mile Road in Detroit for which the movie was named[[/note]]. Eminem happily replies that he was "''watching ''Film/EightMile'' on my [=NordicTrack=]''", reminding Kells he's a movie star with a premium home gym.
213	** Kells insults Em for being a nerd, reading the dictionary and staying inside. Eminem announces that he only reads when he's taking a shit... in Kelly's Cheerios. Where's the dictionary?
214	* InsultFriendlyFire: Kells mocked Eminem for being still miserable despite being a rich pop star, while Kells himself is also a multi-millionaire who makes music about his mental illnesses, insecurities, drug issues and the indignities of fame. Eminem sarcastically points this out -- "''oh, you broke, bitch?''"
215	* IrritationIsTheSincerestFormOfFlattery: Eminem, annoyed by his iconic 2000s look being copied by MGK's bleached hair and silver earrings, offers him even more of his clothes to wear and tells him to go and fuck Kim in them, knowing it won't bring him an inch closer to being the real thing.
216	* IJustWantToBeBadass: Eminem characterizes him as someone who wants to be an edgy gangsta but just doesn't have what it takes to pull it off.
217	* IJustWantToBeYou: In Eminem's characterisation, Kells wants to be Eminem so bad he'd suck a cock just to be him for a second.
218	* InUniverseFactoidFailure: Eminem is not impressed by Kells trying to insult him for having a run of bad albums but not knowing how many albums came out between "Rap Devil" and Em's supposed last good album, ''Recovery''.
219	-->Know your facts before you come at me, you li'l goof.
220	* KnockingTheKnockoff: In "Killshot", Eminem makes it clear he views Kells as a poor-quality knockoff of his own young self, an imitation Slim Shady in the same blond hair and earrings as the kid from the beginning of "Sing for the Moment"... or Stan.
221	* LegacyCharacter: Eminem accuses Kells of thinking he's one of these for him, and denies it -- "''Young me? You the wack me.''" Instead, he places him as a legacy character of both his old foe Benzino (referencing his Benzino disses "Go To Sleep" and "Nail In The Coffin") and [[StrawFan Stan]] (directly quoting that song as well).
222	* LibationForTheDead: Halfway through "Killshot", Eminem pops a bottle of champagne and pours it out on the floor in mourning of Kells, while ironically praising him - "''it's your moment, as big as you're gonna get, so enjoy it.''"
223	* LifeImitatesArt: [[invoked]] Eminem alludes to the similarities between MGK's behavior and that of Stan, [[StrawFan a character Em created as a caricature of his own most obsessive and toxic fans]].
224	* LoonyFan: He's such an obsessive fan and hater that Eminem compares him to Stan.
225	* MotiveMisidentification: Kells accused Eminem of dissing him for calling his daughter hot. Eminem responded that it was actually because "''I just don't like you, prick''".
226	* NoSuchThingAsBadPublicity[[invoked]]: Discussed. As Eminem explains in "Killshot", he was struggling with whether or not to diss him, knowing it would only do MGK favours. "''You're a molehill, now I'll make a mountain out of you!... Have to give you a career to destroy it!''" He's also refused to perform "Killshot" live due to his refusal to give Kells more publicity than necessary. Kells's career has done better since the beef, but at the cost of making him a MemeticLoser.
227	* PaedoHunt: MGK didn't know Hailie was underaged when he tried to put the moves on her, but Eminem still couldn't resist this ObligatoryJoke in "Not Alike":
228	-->''But you already know who the fuck you [[Music/RKelly are, Kelly]]''
229	* PrematureBirthDrama: In "Yah Yah", Slim claims he [[MarriedToTheJob married the rap game]], impregnated her, and in three months she had a premature baby named Machine Gun Kelly.
230	* PrettyFlyForAWhiteGuy: Eminem mocks MGK's attempts at painting himself as a macho gangsta as corny and unconvincing.
231	-->''You say you affiliated with murderers, killers (Ayy!)\
232	The people you run with are thuggin' (Gang!)\
233	But you just a wannabe gunner (Gang!)\
234	Like you was gonna do somethin'\
235	Actin' like you catchin' bodies (ayy)\
236	And you got juice, lil' youngin', you're buggin'\
237	You ain't never even been charged in connection with battery\
238	Bitch, you ain't plugged into nothin' ''
239	* RatedGForGangsta: Eminem mocks the dissonance between MGK's wannabe-gangsta demeanor and non-threatening appearance.
240	-->''How you gonna name yourself after a damn gun and have a man-bun?''
241	* SchmuckBait: Whether due to bravery, foolhardiness or lack of better career options, he was the only rapper Eminem dissed on ''Kamikaze'' to record a full AnswerSong in response -- none of Eminem's other victims were willing to risk it. Eminem's griping he ''hoped'' everyone he'd insulted didn't respond or he'd be stuck recording {{Answer Song}}s for years may very well have been BriarPatching, and, with "Killshot" serving to elevate Em after a rough time in his career, his line "''thanks for dissing me!''" may not have been ''entirely'' sarcastic.
242	* TattooAsCharacterType: Em disparagingly describes MGK as a "tatted-up mumble-rapper". Notable because Kells doesn't make 'mumble rap' -- his style is a Midwest rapid chopping style with some TrapMusic influences -- and he objected to this line for that reason, stating later that it proved Eminem didn't know what he was talking about. It seems Eminem's point had actually been that, regardless of Kells's actual rapping style, the tattoos similarly prove he's a trend-rider with abysmal aesthetic judgement. He also mocked the tattoos in a pre-release video for "Killshot" which showed him playing VideoGame/PacMan, referencing the Pac-Man tattoos around Kells's neck.
243	* ThreatBackfire: Eminem's actually delighted to have been dissed, because it gives him an excuse to have hated him.
244	* WritersCannotDoMath: As mentioned under InUniverseFactoidFailure above, MGK said in "Rap Devil" that Eminem's last four albums sucked before telling him to go back to sounding like he did on ''Recovery''… which was part of his last four albums at the time. ''Oops!''
245	* YoungerAndHipper: Kells positions himself as this, claiming he represents his Millennial generation against the old guard. Eminem flips it, reminding Kells that, despite being middle-aged, his own audience is ten-year-olds -- the twenty-and-thirty-somethings are comparatively geriatric -- and says that he'd rather be [[OlderAndWiser himself at 80 years old]] than [[YouthIsWastedOnTheDumb Kells at 20]].
246
247	[[/folder]]
248
249	[[folder:Moby]]
250	[[quoteright:350:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/moby5.jpg]]
251	[[caption-width-right:350:You don't know me, you're too old, let go, it's over -- ''nobody listens to techno!'']]
252
253	The plant-based, bald-headed electronic musician Music/{{Moby}} ended up becoming an enemy of Eminem starting from the 2001 MediaNotes/{{Grammy Award}}s, in which, while defending Eminem's right to free speech, he called him "a misogynist, homophobic, racist and [an] antisemite", and then accused Eminem of being secretly gay and in love with him. Eminem responded by dissing Moby and threatening to assault him at the 2002 [=VMAs=]. While Eminem insisted in interviews that the beef was a joke (and Moby assumed at first that it was), Eminem's hatred of the man was sincere enough to genuinely frighten Moby, make ''him'' genuinely frightened ''of'' Moby[[note]]see the Triumph the Insult Comic Dog section below for more of how ''that'' one turned out[[/note]], and result in Moby getting assaulted in real life by a gang of imitation Slim Shadies.
254	\
255	Moby appears in "Without Me" (and its video), "My Name", "Don't Front", a skit during his ''The Eminem Show''-era live performances, and numerous interviews.
256
257	!!Tropes associated with Moby in Eminem's telling:
258
259	* AmbiguouslyGay: Eminem gives him a trilling, effeminate voice in the Anger Management Tour skit. In the music video for "Without Me", he's depicted peeling a banana and eyeing it suggestively. Slim, of course, calls him a "fag".
260	* AMFMCharacterization: Moby's associated with techno (despite himself not making it at that point). Eminem claimed in interviews around this time that he had always hated techno music and that now that he'd quit doing ecstasy, he hated it even more.
261	* BaldMystic: In Eminem's caricature, his baldness gives him a monk-like aspect, fitting his meditation.
262	* ButIDigress: While on stage accepting his Best Male Video award for "Without Me", Eminem interrupted his list of people to thank to start threatening to assault Moby.
263	* ConflictBall: Moby's accusations of Eminem being a bigot were idiotic, but it is notable that Eminem had ''no'' reason to react as intensely as he did, and even admitted in interviews that he was doing it because he thought it would be funny. The music press had some negative reactions to this, viewing it as Eminem manufacturing beef as a [[ItsTheSameNowItSucks hollow retread]] of the pop star invective that had got such a big reaction on his last album; the pointlessness of the beef also led to [[https://www.mtv.com/news/1457273/was-eminem-out-of-line-at-vmas-or-just-being-real-fans-and-triumph-weigh-in/ backlash from his own fans]] for being too mean for no reason.
264	* CooperationGambit: Despite Moby's genuine dislike of Eminem's personality and what he imagined to be his social politics, Moby promoted and endorsed Eminem's ''Encore'' PoliticalRap single "Mosh", calling it an incredible song and video. Since the video was a call for his fans to vote out George W. Bush, he was willing to set his grudge aside to fight a greater enemy.
265	* FlippingTheBird: In "Don't Front", Slim describes himself as having a middle finger shoved against Moby's nose.
266	* GayBravado: In response to Moby's taunt about being secretly in love with him, Slim in "Without Me" calls him a "''fag -- [[ImmediateSelfContradiction blow me!]]''".
267	* [[GranolaGirl Granola Guy]]: Moby's vegetarianism, pacifism, interest in spirituality and overall harmlessness was why Eminem selected him for the beef -- he was trying to tone down the shock value of his act at the time and thought it would provide [[ComicallyLopsidedRivalry amusement]]. He's portrayed in Eminem's work as a yoga fanatic and wimpy vegetarian.
268	* InsultFriendlyFire: In "Without Me", Eminem sneers at the "36-year-old" (in reality, 34-year-old) Moby as being past it, despite the fact that Eminem himself was almost thirty at the time he released the song, and absolutely terrified of ageing out of stardom. Eminem's feelings about his precarious relevance -- as revealed in "Lose Yourself" at around the same time -- suggests that the irony here was intentional. (Eminem himself would end up having a [[CareerResurrection second imperial phase]] at age 37.)
269	* LevitatingLotusPosition: In the Anger Management Tour, Moby has the ability to fly from his meditation.
270	* LoonyFan: Downplayed -- in the video edit of "Without Me" and Clean live performances, Eminem calls Moby a "36-year-old bald-headed Stan" instead. Moby in reality was and still is complimentary of Eminem's rapping talent, and as late as 2019 was writing in his autobiography about how much he related to Eminem as a fellow muso, producer and geek and wished they could be friends.
271	* LostInCharacter: Despite starting the beef as a semi-joke, Eminem -- at that time still struggling to extricate himself from Slim Shady -- ended up sincerely loathing him to an extent that he was paranoid about Moby's violent retaliation, as if in an actual rap beef. This paranoia unintentionally led to Eminem's mortifying beef with Triumph the Insult Comic Dog.
272	%%* PoliticalCorrectnessIsEvil: Why Moby wound Eminem up as much as he did.
273	* RabbleRouser: Eminem's beef against Moby led to [[https://www.mtv.com/news/1459127/moby-beaten-sprayed-with-mace-outside-boston-club/ a small gang of his fans]] assaulting him and spraying him with mace.
274	* ScreamsLikeALittleGirl: In the Anger Management tour skit, upon getting shot while flying above the stage, Moby lets out a comically girlish scream.
275	* SissyVillain / BadImpressionists: In his Anger Management Tour skit, Eminem gave him a weedy, effeminate lisp (and had him say "I am Moby" a lot).
276	* SitcomArchNemesis: It's implied Moby's smug hippie vegetarianism, pacifism and feminism is why Eminem singled him out, more than the actual stuff he said about Em.
277	* SmallRoleBigImpact: Moby is a minor foe by the standards of Eminem's beefs, but due to the massive success of "Without Me" and the level of cultural saturation Eminem enjoyed in 2002, it's probably his best-known amongst the general public.
278	* StrawFeminist: In the Anger Management Tour skit, Moby flies around Eminem's head accusing him of being a misogynist so that Obie Trice can shoot him.
279	* StrawVegetarian: He diets on bananas because they're phallic and is depicted as physically weak and unmanly. In "My Name", Eminem claims the day he lets Canibus get one over on him is the day Moby is able to beat him in a fight.
280	* WrestlerInAllOfUs: Obie Trice uses wrestling moves on Moby in both the "Without Me" video and the Anger Management Tour skit.
281	* YouWouldntHitAGuyWithGlasses: Upon getting heckled while accepting his Moonman for Best Male Video, Eminem pointed at Moby and announced from the podium that he ''would'' hit a guy with glasses.
282	[[/folder]]
283	[[folder:Christopher "Reeves"]]
284	[[quoteright:300:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/reev_2.png]]
285	[[caption-width-right:300:You're taking this shit too far. Who do you think you are? Hang my suit up in the armoire. Every day I hate you more and more.]]
286
287	Creator/ChristopherReeve was an actor and disability rights campaigner best known for playing Film/{{Superman\|FilmSeries}} -- in a film that had a formative effect on the young Eminem -- and being rendered quadriplegic after a horse-riding accident in 1995. This made him the Unacceptable Target of All Unacceptable Targets, which in turn made him an irresistible victim for Shady's pointless spite.
288	\
289	The RunningGag of Slim's beef with Reeve started in 2000 and continued for the entire decade, including after Reeve's death in 2004. Slim Shady does not appear to be certain what Reeve's name is, the precise nature of his disability, or even if he's dead or not, but under no circumstances will that hold him back from saying whatever he wants about him to make you mad. Reeve, for his part, is not amused and occasionally responds with furious death and assault threats.
290	\
291	"Reeves" makes appearances on "Get You Mad", "Who Knew", "I'm Back", "Purple Pills", "My 1st Single", "Rain Man", "Medicine Ball", "Underground", "On Fire", "Campaign Speech", and basically every single ''Relapse'' Shady freestyle.
292
293	!!Tropes associated with Mr. Christopher Reeves:
294
295	* AntagonistInMourning: In both "Rain Man" and "My 1st Single" on ''Encore'', Slim expresses grief and shame about the death of his favourite punchbag, Creator/ChristopherReeve, sadly [[LibationForTheDead pouring one out]] for him after making fun of him in his songs. The ghost of Reeve warns him that when Slim dies, he'll kick his ass.
296	* AnArmAndALeg: Slim steals Reeve's legs in "I'm Back" and is exasperated that people are mad at him for it.
297	* BadImpressionists: Eminem, a ManOfAThousandVoices whose vocal range is one of his strongest attributes as a performer, could easily have done a realistic impersonation of Creator/ChristopherReeve if he'd wanted to. Instead he gives him a MachineMonotone that serves to indicate his total lack of research - and therefore the fact that it's not really personal.
298	* BlamingTheVictim: ''Apparently'' Slim's treatment of Reeve is the fault of Reeve, for having a name that rhymes with so many things.
299	* TheChewToy: Not even death can spare Christopher Reeves from Slim's harassment and slander.
300	* CowboyBebopAtHisComputer[[invoked]]: In-universe. Slim does not even know basic facts about the guy, including the precise nature of his disability (he's claimed he's a double amputee with wooden legs, or is dependent on a computer to talk), keeps getting his name wrong, and [[ActorRoleConfusion conflates him with the actual Superman]]. In his 2009 Rap City freestyle, he puts out an apology for dissing him after his death, claiming he did not even know he died.
301	* DanceBattler: In "Medicine Ball", Reeve, sick of Eminem's shit, challenges him to a breakdancing contest.
302	* ImYourBiggestFan: In "My 1st Single", Slim claims he picked on "Reeves" because he was his biggest fan, which leads to Reeve calling him "fucker" and threatening to kick his ass.
303	* MaliciousMisnaming: Slim exclusively refers to him as "Christopher Reeves", apparently not caring enough about the real man to know what his name actually is.
304	* NeverSpeakIllOfTheDead: In a [=Shade45=] interview to promote ''Relapse'', Eminem claimed his willingness to insult Christopher Reeve on the album five years after his death was because "I don't want to discriminate".
305	* OneSceneWonder[[invoked]]: In his 2009 Rap City Freestyle, Slim claims that Reeve renegaded him with his verse on "Medicine Ball".
306	* QuicksandSucks: In "Medicine Ball", Slim puts Christopher on a unicycle, rolls him into a patch of quicksand, and then [[KickThemWhileTheyAreDown offers him a branch to grab onto with both hands]].
307	* RageAgainstTheAuthor: Befitting a superhero known for his great compassion and insight, Reeve is Eminem's only character who, instead of getting sidetracked tussling with the sock puppet that is Slim, launches his attacks on ''Eminem'' for ''writing and performing'' this garbage. A lot of sequences with Reeve therefore end up with Eminem dropping character to explain himself or panic about the audience reaction.
308	* RoboSpeak: Reinforcing Slim's total lack of interest in who he actually is, Reeve is impersonated as having a robotic voice (in every appearance after "I'm Back", anyway).
309	* SitcomArchNemesis: Christopher Reeve's actual personality in Em's songs is that of the legend, icon and paragon he is, but Eminem's {{Jerkass}} behaviour (dissing him for laughs while hiding behind an alter-ego to do it) makes him want to throw hands.
310	* ToughActToFollow[[invoked]]: It's heavily implied, especially once Slim takes on his SmugSuper imagery after ''Music/TheEminemShow'', that Slim's problem with him is because he aspires to be Superman on some idealistic level, and knows he can never live up to Reeve, held to be the definitive article both onscreen and off. On "Medicine Ball", Reeve straight up informs him that he can never fill his shoes.
311	* UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom: 'Rain Man' putting a sticker of Christopher Reeve's Supes on his fridge next to [[Franchise/StarWars Darth Vader]] was apparently responsible for his spinal injury and death.
312	%%* VaderBreath: Has this in "Medicine Ball".
313	* WheelchairAntics: In the video for "Purple Pills", Slim dresses as a wheelchair-bound Superman-costumed Christopher who rolls up and punches Slim in the face for making jokes about him.
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316	[[folder:Triumph the Insult Comic Dog]]
317	[[quoteright:300:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/em_triumph.png]]
318	[[caption-width-right:300:Psych! I joke! I joke! I kid! I kid! If I offend, I'm sorry! Please, please, forgive! For I am Triumph the Puppet Dog, I am a mere puppet! I can get away with anything I say and you will love it!]]
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320	Triumph the InsultComic Dog is a [[CigarChomper cigar-chomping]] canine {{candid camera prank}}ster, originating as a skit on Creator/ConanOBrien's ''[[Series/LateNightWithConanOBrien Late Night]]'' show. A [[StylisticSuck deliberately crappy]] hand-puppet operated by comedian and writer Robert Smigel, Triumph would appear at award shows to roast celebrities, which brought him into conflict with Eminem at the 2002 MTV Video Music Awards. Showing up to mock Eminem, the rapper instead pinched the puppet's jaw shut and pushed him out of his face, followed by his rapper friend[=/=]hypeman Proof taking his operator's script and throwing it at him. This made Eminem appear to be a fragile bully unable to take criticism even from a silly puppet -- which, along with his unwarranted hostility to Music/{{Moby}} at the same event, resulted in him getting booed when he went to get his award.
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322	In the tradition of BattleRapping, Triumph released a DissTrack, "I Keed", blasting Eminem for his oversensitivity and megalomaniac ego. Eminem, for his part, was hugely embarrassed by the incident, and collaborated with Triumph on his 2004 song "Ass Like That", a SelfDeprecation-filled apology in which Slim raps in-character as the dog, as well as its music video and a performance of the song at the 2004 [=VMAs=].
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324	A full apology for the Triumph incident is printed in Eminem's autobiography ''The Way I Am'', and Eminem later shouts him out on "Leaving Heaven".
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326	!!Tropes associated with Triumph:
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328	* CharacterDevelopment: Despite being a beef with a puppet, Triumph ended up being surprisingly significant on Eminem's future creative direction.
329	** The initial incident was the first time his MTV crowd turned on him, setting him up for the [[ContestedSequel fall from critical favour]][[invoked]] that would follow.
330	** "Ass Like That" was Em's final single of the ''Encore'' cycle and his first single to show him apologising for and [[CreatorBacklash rejecting]][[invoked]] his Slim act, serving as a "last" hurrah for the persona and marking a push towards a more mature, KinderAndCleaner persona -- a development that would continue on later singles like "When I'm Gone", and eventually "Not Afraid".
331	** The thickly-accented, celebrity-humping Triumph-Slim character of "Ass Like That" only needs a couple of handfuls of Valium and a splash of fake blood to become the erotomanic SerialKiller character Eminem would adopt on his 2009 album ''Relapse''. "We Made You" in particular starts where "Ass Like That" left off.
332	* DecoyGetaway: Throughout "Ass Like That", Triumph-Slim uses his obvious puppetness to get away with serious sex crimes. Triumph ruefully tells him at the end of the video, "''hey, Blondie, I saved your peroxide ass again.''"
333	* DogStereotype: "Ass Like That" puts a twist on the [[StuffyOldSongsAboutTheButtocks obligatory hip-hop booty jam]] by suggesting that Slim's obsession with asses is because he's a dog, trying to sniff them. The perverted content of the song also appears to be related to Triumph's doggish horniness -- his brief mention in "Leaving Heaven" is in reference to his leg-humping.
334	* EvilHand: In the music video for "Ass Like That", the puppet Triumph has a will of his own and is able to take over Slim. However, his evil behaviour is to keep him out of facing consequences for his evil actions.
335	* FisticuffProvokingComment: The opening to the video of "Ass Like That" is a skit inspired by the 2002 incident in which Eminem violently assaults Triumph after making a string of jokes about him.
336	* TheGrovel: Reviewers of Eminem's book ''The Way I Am'' noted that -- despite all his bad behaviour over the years -- the emotional high point is the detailed, thoughtful and compassionate apology for his assault of Triumph. In fact, the extent to which he goes out of his way to apologise for a ridiculous incident with a puppet and not for, say, the rampant MuseAbuse that ruined his personal life was seen by some as a further insult to those he harmed.
337	* HypocriticalHumor: Slim has ''absolutely no right'' to be offended by a ridiculous fictional character poking fun at him.
338	* InsultComic: Triumph self-describes as this; it allows Slim to point out to the audience that this is what he is, too.
339	* JustJokingJustification: Triumph and Slim Shady exist primarily to lend credence to their creators' defense of their most controversial statements as jokes not meant to be taken seriously.
340	* KarmaHoudini: In "Ass Like That", Triumph becomes a symbol of Slim's ability to slip out of consequences for his actions by using his persona as a JustJokingJustification.
341	* KarmicTransformation: In the music video for "Ass Like That", by humourlessly assaulting the dog puppet, Eminem gets it stuck on his own arm and fuses with him.
342	* MirrorCharacter: The whole point of "Ass Like That"'s song and video is that Slim and Triumph are the same -- two ridiculous, fictional shock-comedians who use their obvious fictitiousness to get away with hurtful and inappropriate behaviour. More sinisterly, both are tame, mundane parts of the celebrity-industrial complex.
343	* QueerPeopleAreFunny: Triumph starts the video for "Ass Like That" by hassling Eminem with a string of homophobic insults about Eminem having gay sex with Music/EltonJohn and Music/FiftyCent. Seeing as the two of them are very alike, it's a reference to Eminem's own history of making homophobic gags.
344	* SubvertedKidsShow: Another thing Slim and Triumph have in common; Slim has his colourful and child-friendly aesthetic, while Triumph is a foul-mouthed puppet filled with sexual perversion. "Ass Like That" brings in ''Series/CrankYankers'' characters as extras to reinforce this theme.
345	* TooMuchAlike: Both Slim and Triumph are ridiculous, fake substitutes that allow their puppeteers to get away with bullying celebrities with inappropriate misogynistic and homophobic jokes; "Ass Like That" implies this is why Eminem reacted the way he did.
346	* UnexplainedAccent: Triumph's Russian accent -- which in Eminem's performance in "Ass Like That", keeps wandering off into Vienna and Mumbai -- inspired Eminem to start experimenting with [[WhatTheHellIsThatAccent accents]] in his future work.
347	* WholePlotReference: 2017's "Framed" is essentially a DarkerAndEdgier retread of "Ass Like That", this time with the ''Relapse'' Slim Shady in Triumph's role.
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