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Anonymous Mc Cartneyfan: The Ninth and Tenth Doctors could still be from an alternate continuity from the First Through Eighth...John Smith's subconscious aside. Here's how it could happen. I hear that one of the last Eighth Doctor novels, written during a period when the Expanded Universe was considered valid, has Faction Paradox kill the Third Doctor before his last televised adventure. The last adventure of the Third Doctor in the main series was one where the only way to save the earth and Sarah Jane was to return a radioactive crystal to where he got it from, resulting in his death by radiation poisoning. The Fourth Doctor loved Sarah as much as the Third, so this adventure would still happen. Result? A Fifth Doctor (or maybe even the Fifth Doctor) would appear decades to centuries ahead of schedule; Hilarity Ensues and we get a major continuity shift. Since the Doctor is a Time Lord, he may still have an idea of what things were like before Faction Paradox made its changes.

Daibhid C: Sorry, but that story doesn't create an Alternate History where Third regenerates into Fourth early; it creates one where the Third Doctor is killed stone dead and never regenerates again, a la "Turn Left".


Silent Hunter: Would Romana becoming Lord President go here? It's a widely accepted theory in the Expanded Universe and RTD mentioned it in his article on the Time War.

{{xwingace]]:Doesn't sound tinhatted enough, really. But it might fit. I've never been entirely clear on the difference between just Wild Mass Guessing and Epileptic Trees.

Mister Six: Huh. Has Epileptic Trees been deleted? Anyway, the Romana thing wouldn't since it's a: not mental and b: just something from peripheral media rather than a fan-made theory.

Silent Hunter: No. We're on a Wild Mass Guessing page, so any trope names will search there and come up blank.

Matthew The Raven: What about the theory that the personality of each of the Doctor's regenerations is influenced by the manner of the previous incarnation's death?

This is pretty much what I have, based on some theories I've heard. What do you think?:

The personality of each of the Doctor's regenerations is influenced by the manner of the previous incarnation's death.
The First Doctor seemingly died from a combination of old age and the energy draining effects of the planet he was stuck on, thus, he regenerated as a younger, energetic man with a penchant for running away. The Second Doctor’s forced regeneration at the hands of his government lead to a more forceful personality, a swave, debonair figure willing to cooperate, if grudgingly, with a government body. The third Doctor died after a long exile on Earth working for a paramilitary organization; the Fourth Doctor was a bohemian, anti-authoritarian renegade with wanderlust, who died sacrificing his life for the universe. Following the difficult regeneration, the Doctor became a reserved, quieter figure with an air of tormented nobility, that died a long, protracted death after a more personal but still valiant, and very painful self-sacrifice. This lead to an extroverted, self-righteous, and obnoxiously colourful version, whose sudden, accidental death brought about a clownish yet darkly manipulative persona. The Seventh Doctor’s very long period of clinical death lead to the amnesia and the Gothic Romanticism that partially defined the Eight Doctor’s personality. The Eight’s possible death during the Time War lead to the much darker and enraged Ninth Doctor, who regenerated into an individual very open to love for his companions.

Sikon: And what about the last regeneration, into the Tenth Doctor?

Matthew The Raven: The Tenth is mentioned on the last line, as the loving one that the Ninth regenerates into. Later: I'm adding it. You all can edit it out if you want.But if that Master one stays in, this one should too. :)


Ununnilium: Taking this out, since it's already on the Haruhi page, and having it here without any text looks terrible:

The Doctor is really Kyon from Suzumiya Haruhi No Yuutsu, further down his personal timeline.'' See Suzumiya Haruhi No Yuutsu for more.

Also, the John Simm is the Master one is painful, since it's 100% pure spoilertext.


Ununnilium: De-spoilering end-of-new-season-3 stuff.


Weren't the Xeelee another species who went back in time and became their own ancestors? —Document N
Anonymous Mc Cartneyfan: Cut this and put it here. This isn't really a Doctor Who theory, IMO.
Haruhi Suzumiya is a Time Lord in a Parallel Universe
I can't believe it hasn't been mentioned yet on this page. Sure we have a similar theory over on the SOS Leader's page, but let's get it marked down here as well.

  • ahem*

In the universe she lives in, Haruhi Suzumiya has the power of the Time Lords, only she doesn't know it, and because Time Lords are (assuminly) taught from a very young age about responsibility and non-interfearance (Much like the Data Integration Thought Entity's neutrality), so her powers have gone out of control with only the SOS members and Kyon available to keep her escapades in check. Given her rather juvenile uses of her powers (Unknown to her), she's quite powerful, if you consider what Time Lords normally use their abilities for.

To explain it a bit better: The Doctor has been shown to be a little psychic and only the Master, the most renegade of Time Lords, has displayed the cunning to willfully kill other beings, and both interfere with the universe at large due to their rogue status, and while the Doctor and Master and Rani are all 'special' as far as Time Lords go, they all still have that very basic and very deep psychological barriers preventing them from really going crazy. Plus, all Time Lords assuminly have a TARDIS, which has been shown to have reality-altering powers (See Rose Tyler looking into its Heart), which makes sense: The TARDIS stores most of the Time Lord's vast powers in exchange for safety and quick transportation about the universe. Get all that? Time Lords have safety features on several levels to prevent them from doing real damage to the universe, even for the villain of the race.

Haruhi? She DOESN'T have a TARDIS, nor does she have any sort of role model for self-restraint. So, her powers are at full power all the time without her knowledge. Her mood swings tear the fabric of space-time, her wishes cause Time Loops (Endless 8 anyone?), and it makes all the more sense why three seperate organizations of significant power (Espers, Aliens, and Time-Travellers) all wish to keep Haruhi in the dark. Either she won't be able to take in the fact that her every action can cause significant damage, or she'll begin to WILLFULLY change the universe according to her whim.

Basically, She's a Time Lord without any Power Limiter, and that's NOT a good thing.


Anonymous Mc Cartneyfan: This page is due for folderization!

Anonymous Mc Cartneyfan: I tried to folderize the page, but two of the folders are broken. We need to move some theories off this page and onto the other two Doctor Who WMG pages.

Anonymous Mc Cartneyfan: The page is fixed.

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