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Seth: Just preempting certain people :p, please don't link to any explicit material on this page.

Seven Seals: You have to admit it's rather tantalizing to not even name the thing. An example's rather pointless if you already have to know it to get it (though I have a pretty good idea what board you're talking about, shame on me).

Citizen: Oh, Seth, you know me well. But I have more restraint than that, or I'd be posting pictures from the Fate floods on the Lolicon entry. =P And I just so happened to come across the exact picture I was thinking of at that place.

Seth: Might want to clip that "Raping your childhood" bit from the bottom of the encyclopedia dramatica image - it gets its point across pretty well without it and we have stayed a moderately family/work safe website all this time.

Ununnilium: Interesting. IMHO, it's actually funnier this way.

Fencedude: Wouldn't it be worth mentioning that said Image board which Shall-not-be-named is the origin of the term "Rule 34"?

Man Called True: A note on that Harlan Ellison story: Ellison's famous for telling really, really exagerrated tales of his life (see his version of why they fired him from the writing staff for Star Trek V), and nobody can find any proof that was why he was fired from Disney. It's probably just as apocryphal as the first story.

Ack Sed: Interestingly,there's another rule 34 in the Evil Overlord List - "I will not turn into a snake. It never helps." A certain baddie in Naruto would do well to remember this ;-).

Travis Wells: Fencedude: It's actually not from The Image Board Which Must Not Be Named, it's from a webcome: Zoom Out Webcomics. It's no longer online. You can see the (SFW, but links from the page probably aren't) image here: [1]

Morgan Wick: Is that really the original, though?

Johnny E: Can't help but think that the Evil Overlord Rule 34 probably applies to regular Rule 34...

Anyway, in an ongoing Questionable Content Archive Binge, I found this description of "Quantum Fetish Mechanics" - don't know if it pre- or post-dates Rule 36, but it describes it beautifully. Since Rule 36 no longer has a page and this page has no examples, is there anywhere I can post it?


Umptyscope: An aside: I've got a good friend who was a male pornstar in the '70's and '80's. (Nowadays he writes movie reviews.) Anyway, back in the day, he was devoted to Hill Street Blues. He had a chance to meet Ed Marinaro, who played Coffee on the series, and told Marinaro what he did for a living. The actor smiled, shook his hand and said he'd seen a porn video version of the show (probably named "Hill Street Screw" or something like that) and, seeing it, knew that the show had "arrived." "Your TV show isn't famous," said Marinaro, "until someone does a porno version of it."

Lord Seth: Does anyone happen to know what rules 1 through 33 are? Or do they not even exist?

Seth: Encyclopaedia Dramatica have a list of the rules on their "Anonymous" page.

Lord Seth: Thanks for the quick response. It's actually on their "Rules of the Internet" page though.

Seth: Ah i was thinking about the code of anon.


TJ Devil 02: I'm opening a can of worms, but... who's gonna be the first to do T.V. Tropes Wiki... erm... affirmation of the rule?

Scrounge: *Backs away slowly*

They Call Me Tomu: Ahem. "Bow. chicka wow wow. Chicka. Wow wow." I'm not even creative enough to understand how that would work, since TV Tropes seems to largely be composed of a series of shapeless entities. But if you're asking who was the first Troper who's also either a porn star or a webcam girl/guy(?)... Well, I doubt I was the *first* ...

Blink Dawg: Let's forget about this, since it would likely involve Wikipe-tan.

Cassius335: Eh, I've done IKEA Porn of myself, more or less before. Still, TV Tropes porn (should some mad idiot wish try it) would be difficult, partly because it would immediatly be denounced as an abomination and pattly because there's no setting, as such.

Vampbenders porn, OTOH, would be easy.

Moar Lurk: We've got bigger problems: I can't find Rule 34 on the Reptilians.


Scrounge: Added the Transformers example, because, well... Let's just say it's a case where Rule 34 and Nightmare Fuel overlap.


Prfnoff: Removed a spoiler tag from a Pokemon example because I thought it was pointless.
Crazyrabbits: MY EYES!!! THE GOGGLES!!! THEY DO NOTHING!!!!! ARGHHHHH (head explodes after reading page)

Big T: Anyone mind if I switch this page and Rule34? It makes more sense to me for Rule 34 to be a redirect, as the number is usually not spelled out.


Gizensha: So... Do I add Deal Or No Deal now or after someone actually goes and writes the Noel/Banker slash fic that's come up in conversation on Bothers Bar? Because if it doesn't exist yet, it will. Very, very soon most likely. (Also, based on that conversation, Scavengers sounds like it's going to come soon)
Midna: Deleting

There is no point to this section, rule 34 is not only present for literally every tv show, movie, anime, or video game you've ever watched/played, but it is abundant, no examples are needed, just a single item that says "No, really, there's porn of that too"

because Natter. We have a forum, you know. Also, that's a run-on sentence.


Trogga: Why do we have Troper Tales for pages like this?
Ack Sed: Why was this merged with Rule 36?

Rhainor: I dunno, but it really shouldn't be. The two are separate and distinct. Furthermore, one is the *cause* of the other. They need to be split into separate articles.


"Formulated on the 4chan imageboard" - Really? I thought the comic in the image was the origin. Rules 1 and 2 were lifted from Fight Club and have no relation. Many internet phenomena that became popular on 4chan have been erroneously credited to it, is this another case?
  • The original came from a webcomic called "Zoom Out"; 4chan found it and popularised it, but certainly didn't coin it. Also, jokes about how The Internet Is for Porn in general? They've been around since at least the mid-1990s (when people first discovered alt.binaries.pictures.erotica).

Michael: I'm moving this here from the article body because it's discussion. Discuss.

  • Most of what we call "fetishes" are actually paraphilia. People with paraphilia usually leads either a very complicated or very unfulfilling sex live. Except those slackers with homeovestism, who get off easy. Yep, they're aroused by wearing clothes made for their own sex. Bastards.
    • Depends on what paraphilia you're talking about, believe it or not, most of the population has [i]some[/i] sort of preference, fetish or kink.
      • Especially when you consider that only enjoying "normal sex" and soft porn is a fetish in and of itself.

Anonymous: Octopus/Mr. Potato Head? Who put that up here? What happened to the other one? You know, "CALVIN AND HOBBES?"
Twentington: I removed the links to the Star Wars unbirth pics, since a.) clicking on them when not logged into DA presents a login screen, and b.) since they're teh pr0nz, they'll prolly get yanked from DA at a moment's notice.

EXCETIONS; Togenishia and Lun Lun from Hana no Ko Lunlun are not followers of rule 34!!!


Tipz: Intro update. The onld one is here for posterity, if nothing else.

As the infamous musical number from Avenue Q tells us, "The Internet Is for Porn". This isn't that far off.

Say you have a movie, or a TV show, or a video game, or a comic book, or some other visual medium that proves popular. Ultimately, a Fandom will be built around it. Now, generally, it's a good bet that a substantial number of those fans are living their lives on MUCKs and other web outlets for their love of the medium. Also, some of the fanbase may harbor a Perverse Sexual Lust for some of your characters — even if they were too young for such thoughts before watching the medium. As such, after a while, their interest in it may become darker, their thoughts turning towards more risqué items of note... and they will start putting pen to paper (or fingers to keyboard) and write, draw, or render their fantasies for everyone to see.

Formulated in the dank depths of the 4chan imageboard, this is Rule 34 of the Internet: somewhere, some small group of your franchise's fandom is probably getting their rocks off at porn of your characters.

This may or may not be a problem, depending on the circumstances. Most Fan Art and Fan Fiction is posted free of charge; unless the owner of the franchise fears that such scandalous depictions of their life's work will damage the franchise's and the owners' public image, it's better for them to just let it slide instead of suing for copyright infringement — it's less expensive, and it alienates fewer fans. If the fans like your stuff enough to have those kinds of thoughts about it, then they're obviously the kind of fans you want to keep to ensure your work's success, right? It's not like they're going to stop making such pictures or stories even if it's forbidden.

Sometimes a fandom goes too far with this rule; this will ultimately damage their public image regardless of how widespread the practice really is. And if the fandom and the medium are both widely known publicly, then there's always the threat of Media Watchdogs coming in with threats of censors and sanctions against the medium for the creations of the fans. Yes, the medium — we are talking about the widely known fandoms. But that's a real-life example of Viewers Are Morons on both sides of the coin.

This is nothing new. It's just that now, in the Communication Age, all of humanity's dirty little secrets are coming out into the open. Add Memetic Mutation to that, and you get what is either a revolution or a moral crisis of epic proportions (or both). It often leads one to reach for the Brain Bleach. It depends on your point of view. Beauty is, after all, in the eye of the beholder.

Some examples of Rule 34 may be explained (if that's the right word) by Rule 36:

If you've thought of it, then there's somebody out there with a fetish for it.

Lesbians. Pregnant women. Pregnant men. Giants. Cannibalism. Centaurs. Balloon animals. And, of course, Giant Pregnant Inflatable Cannibal Hermaphrodite Lesbian Centaurs. Yes.

See also Fetish Fuel and Power Perversion Potential if you really wanna blow your mind. You may wish to keep a bottle of Brain Bleach handy. Or not. Basically, if you're on the internet long enough and surf carelessly, you'll see porn of Anything That Moves and some things that don't. See also Rule 63, which gets mixed up with this.

Not to be confused with the Other Wiki's Rule 34.

Be warned: pretty much every outside link on this page is NSFW.


Alligator: You know what, I think this should be the new page image. It encapsulates this trope so well. Or there's this, though that's rather vulgar(Sauron's tower, if you look, has a visible wenis), or this, or-well, you get the idea. For a really fun drinking game, go to Gelbooru, and look at the "What" tag. Whenever you see something confusingly sexual, take a shot. A shot of water, that is, unless you have something you need to forget in a big hurry. Like the images under the what tag, for example.

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