This is discussion archived from a time before the current discussion method was installed.
for the Wheel Of Time series.
Miko from Order of the Stick Webcomic is like this.
- As of right now (3/2/09), Redcloak is also listed as a Knight Templar. As a "Lawful Evil " being (and aware of it), does he really fit this trope?
Mark Lungo: Took out:
- >** In the Justice League episode "A Better World," the League meets other-dimensional versions of themselves who had become the "Justice Lords," and meted out the law as gods.
because it was in Comic Books but belonged in Western Animation. I moved it here for posterity. I also moved the paragraph's last sentence:
- >The aftermath of this encounter was seen in the first two seasons of Justice League Unlimited.
to the episode's entry under Western Animation.
Finally, I moved the Darkwing Duck example to Western Animation for the same reason.
Uknown Troper: I really don't think any of the Gotei 13 members from Bleach are valid Knight Templar. I think they have enough trouble running the afterlife (and pretty badly too) without trying to impose perfect order on anything on top of it, and their tenure as 'villains' was mainly because of manipulation by Aizen, and because the protagonist's goal was to release what they saw as a captured criminal. Yeah, they're jerkasses and kind of Lawful Stupid, but that's more Designated Antagonist territory than Knight Templar.
wia: In what way was SHODAN a knight templar? Her ethics routines were removed at the start of the first game, and she spends the rest of the series trying to ascend to effective godhood by slaughtering everything that's a threat to her... Part of being a knight templar is serving an ostensibly good cause, no? There was *nothing* good about SHODAN's cause.
TClaymore: Removing mention of the Holy Order from Guilty Gear on grounds that their methods were not extreme (the Holy War was started by Justice; they basically responded to the declaration of war by saying "Okay.") and they, barring the Drama CD Side Black, had nothing to do with Dizzy. Ky did not track her down in Guilty Gear X on behalf of the Holy Order, which was disbanded at the end of the war (the tournament for membership in a second Holy Order in the original Guilty Gear was a ruse to allow Justice to escape her prison). Instead, he, going outside his duties as Captain of the International Police Force, was searching for her specifically because she was said to be friendly and wanted to verify that for himself.
Haven: Took this out from under Judge Dredd, because assuming the best still renders it not that funny...
- You mean the guy Stallone played in that movie? Was he famous somewhere?
Vampire Buddha: Removed this:
- * Jet from Avatar The Last Airbender initially seems like a worthy ally to the Gaang with his resistance movement of people like him who have lost their families to the Fire Nation. However, it soon turns out that he's a very "the ends justify the means" guy, not caring at all if innocent people are hurt due to his actions and intent on wiping out the entire Fire Nation, including people who had nothing to do with the war. Later he repents and tries to help the right way, which doesn't work out so well.
** Also, he does not really reflect on his ends at all...
Jet is a Well-Intentioned Extremist; he's fighting so people can have more freedom, not less.
Peteman: I think Kore of Goblins would be a much better depiction than Miko.
BritBllt: Well, it'd need to be something that also makes sense to people who haven't read it, and the current pic does a good job of showing a seemingly psycho character screaming about punishing evildoers while attacking a helpless victim. I restored it, but left off this caption wording...
- Miko Miyazaki. Where to begin? Then again, Belkar really has it coming.
Because while the picture works great, that caption is pretty meaningless to a non-Order fan.
I've seen an edit war between the stupid image and the image from One Piece via this page's history. My question is: what happened to the original image that didn't look stupid, and actually fit the page in a non-cheesy fashion?
The Recreator: Could you describe the image you're referring to? I think it was a simple picture of a historical Knight Templar (like the one on The Knights Templar page), but I can't be sure. I did both a page history search and a web archive search and found nothing. If that's the one you're looking for, I'd stick with the current image, though any image that clearly depicts the fanaticism of a character with a "good" alignment should also do the trick.
Ahh, yes, that's the one! Apparently I had articles confused. Thanks for clearing that up for me, The Recreator!
