This is discussion archived from a time before the current discussion method was installed.
Just like to suggest something here, instead of having multiple pages (which is very annoying to browse through) why not make it like other formerly multipage tropes and have several collapsible folders? -Anonymous
Semi-Known Troper: The addbars for this page appear to have been disabled, is this dileberate ?
- SteveMB: I'm seeing one for hurricane relief. Maybe that was put in as a "hard-wired" ad to dispace the usual context-sensitive ones (for obvious reasons).
Jisu: There's a Magical Girl fetish? Well, that would explain all the jokes you hear about Transformation Sequences, but...
Filby: Egg-laying is a fetish? And I thought vore was bizarre...
- Gloating Swine: Rule 36 is not Guideline 36. Not Mild Suggestion 36. Actual hard and fast Internet Rule.
- Filby: Touche!
- If you are bishonen, you are Fetish Fuel, no exceptions. It's also likely you will be dating another bishonen.
Not sure this belongs on this page, as I don't see how it relates to any fetishes. Liking your men pretty is not a fetish, much like preferring your women curvy isn't.
Big T: Well, Unknown Troper, both of those are fetishes. bishonen =/= pretty boys. It means effeminate, (almost) gay, animated boys "under the age of 18". Check out the article
at The Other Wiki. And have you never heard of BBWs (Big Beautiful Women)? Definitely a fetish.
Anyways, you missed the point. Bishonen are stated as Fetish Fuel. That doesn't mean that they are fetishes in and of themselves. They just are considered sexy, and, thus, might start a fetish. (Though, as I stated above, the word can refer to things that can be considered fetishes.) By your logic, neither sexy clothing nor panty shots should be included.
Later: Wow! For someone without a name, you sure have a lot of sway. That definition is no longer in the article. I'm sure you probably removed it, but that no one put it back is a little weird. I guess I'll try putting it back, but maybe the people have spoken.
Daibhid C: This page comes up on a search for "Discworld", but I can't see any Discworld references. What's up with that? (I can certainly think of a Discworld example, which is even lampshaded: Angua. Sally. Mud.)
Daibhid C: Never mind, found it. (It's the entry for Captain Carrot and the Zoo Crew, explaining that there's no connection to Carrot Ironfounderson.)
That Other 1 Dude: Someone bathing is not Fetish Fuel!
Dracoblade: Katara in pool, clearly completely naked? In a kids's show? How is that not Fetish Fuel?
Silent Hunter: Naked woman in kids' show does not equal fetish. It equals something, though...
Dracoblade: Well, it implied nudity isn't Fetish Fuel, what on earth is it?
That Other 1 Dude: Something that can lead to a person getting a sexual fetish. I'm pretty sure nudity isn't a fetish.
Lord TNK: If someone gets more turned on by a naked person bathing than not, it might count. Some people might get more turned on by a naked person wearing nothing but shoes than with bare feet. Me, it's a woman who's naked, except for a fur coat, rather than being totally naked. Yes, I admit that.
Big T: Plus there are people who have a bathing girl fetish. I know I prefer seeing such to the actual act. Seeing someone get it on with a girl never did anything for me...
Furiko Maru: Technically anything that turns us on in various media counts as Fetish Fuel, because it's all voyeurism. I'm sorry, did I just blow your mind?
Muselette: Actually, if I'm remembering my Psychology of Sexuality class correctly, it's only defined as a fetish if the arousal is brought on by a non-living object. So, technically, things like "foot fetish" don't count as fetishes. How's that for blowing your mind?
Vulpy: Wow. I can't un-read that. Is this one of our fastest-growing pages, or what? And what does that say about us? Still, I'm starting to regret choosing the Latin for "fox" as the source of my online handle. (Mostly, I just wanted a good-natured and good-humored, but solitary, animal.)
Silent Hunter: Most tropers are sex-obsessed Otaku? ;)
That Other 1 Dude: Freud Was Right?
Fast Eddie: Pulled h**p://img527.imageshack.us/img527/8086/gigantawq6.jpg hot linked picture. It was also too big.
Cassius335: I'm guessing your idea of hotlinking is "Any site that's not us." In such cases, couldn't you upload the picture to the tvtropes server and replace the link, instead of just deleting the picture? Please?
As for the size, it ain't that big. I've seen worse.
Fast Eddie: Where? So I can zap 'em. It is too big. This not a fricking image board.
Pteryx: I fail to see how this one is too large. It does need to be actually uploaded, though.
Big T: Well, I'm reducing the size and uploading it to http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/gigantawq6.jpg. I won't add it to the page against FE's wishes, though.
Roland: I'm going to have to suggest that we cut down on some of the cruft here-we don't need to know our tropers' every single fetish, thanks. Not that I'm normally a prude, but still...
Lord TNK: Or we may have to make new a page for each media category, like Nightmare Fuel.
Lord TNK: Did it. So make sure to put examples in their appropriate pages.
Cassius335: Lord TNK, what's with the bold messages? We don't need every damn fetish spelled out!
Lord TNK: I fixed that so it's just on the front page. As it states, it's to avoid clutter. And they don't all have to be spelled out, just state what it is that turns one on about the work, or turned someone else on. This was actually discussed in in the forums and on ykttw, and a lot of us agreed that just stating a work wasn't good enough. We don't know what about the work is supposed to be Fetish Fuel. If you don't want to go that far, then don't post (there are a few I haven't posted for that reason).
Lord TNK: Deleted the section with red links. Too distracting, and the self gushing has no place here.
Robert Bingham: Can I just say that I love the Catwoman icon for the Fetish Fuel pages on New Edits?
So It Begins: Can we make a rule that as many entries should have links to images as is possible? That way, I can add that TV Tropes is Fetish Fuel...
Wascally Wabbit: Right, I have time and nothing better to do. I would like to go through and remove all examples of non-unsual fetish based fanservice. There seems to be some unstated disagreement over whether that is the purpose of the Fetish Fuel section or whether it should be a more general repository of sexy moments as the main article makes out. What says the troper Hive Mind ?
fleb: Remove, remove, remove!
Lord TNK: If the sexiness is based on a fetish, than leave it, even if it's intentional. If it's conventional sexiness (Jessica Rabbit), then it belongs in other things.
Trouser Wearing Barbarian: Remove. If we leave this open for "anything sexy", it'll end up taking up half the website just like how Nightmare Fuel has.
Dragon Quest Z: We aren't leaving it open. Just a few iffy examples need to be trimmed.
And you think we don't know already that it would get out of hand if we didn't?
Lime: Not sure where to put this, but a convention I'm going to is going to have a panel called Fetish Fuel
(scroll down to near the end of the page), although some of the description fits Nightmare Fuel better. ("... a catch-all term describing stuff in anime that gave us nightmares, whether they meant to or not. Okay, half the time it actually is intentional.") I can't go to it (under 18) but I thought that was worth mentioning.
Dragon Quest Z: Wow. It uses parts of the description. So a troper wrote it up. If anyone is going, either transcribe this or film it.
Dragon Quest Z: Eddie, why did you delete the picture? Okay, the caption wasn't the best, but a lot of us approved of the picture.
Light Warden: Is there a way to upload a full-sized version of this chart
◊ so we can link it in the main article? It is educational, a thing of wonder and beauty, made all the more wonderful and beautiful by the fact that even it cannot contain the power of Rule36.
Midna: Why are people deleting all the pictures from the Fetish Fuel pages? Just curious...
A Random Serf: Probably for the same reason Magnificent Bastard used to have an "image" reading, "This is a picture of your favorite example. Now shut up."
Dragon Quest Z: Actually it was because the nature of this page doesn't make it that great for sponsors, thus pictures use more bandwidth than can be afforded.
