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I like the trope, but I don't think the name is descriptive enough. Perhaps "In Name Only Sequel"?


Do the "Staring Alice and Only Alice" Resident Evil movies count?


Ununnilium: Wasn't Mega Man X one of these?

Zeta: No, it was always supposed to be a Megaman game, but originally - Zero was supposed to be the Megaman of the future. People thought he didn't look enough like Megaman, so they used a more familiar design and made Zero a supporting character instead.


And, there was an extant dinosaur planet in the Lylat system.

Tanto: Really? Which one? I know there was one in Star Fox Assault, but I'm nearly certain that game came out after Star Fox Adventures.


Ununnilium:

  • To a minor extent, Super Mario World was a victim of this trope as well. The game had originally been intended to release on the NES, but with the creation of the Super Nintendo, the effects were spruced up for the 16-bit system, and the game finally debuted for the platform in 1991. Promo articles exist (mainly from 1990 issues of Nintendo Power), with beta screenshots showing a Raccoon Mario sprite running towards a wall.

Doesn't really count, IMHO, since it's the same franchise.

Later: References to the Rule of Cool as an all-purpose excuse are getting old, too.

Yet later:

  • And why hasn't anybody mentioned Poltergeist: The Legacy. Exactly how is this series related to the Poltergeist movies?

How is it not? Describe it to us.

Scud East: That's all explained over at In Name Only, which this article should probably be merged with.

Prfnoff: I don't think it's fair to consider The Hobbit a Dolled-Up Installment, especially since The Silmarillion was unpublished (and "Tolkien meant The Hobbit to be a stand-alone story at first" is not a good enough excuse for an example). The Hobbit did have a few references to The Silmarillion, which could be considered Continuity Nods. The reason Tolkien revised The Hobbit was to make the characters and world more consistent with their depiction in The Lord Of The Rings.

Someone said:

  • Wait, if there are no/few connections and/or similarities between game and movie, and the names are different... how is it a Dolled-Up Installment?
To which I wanted to write in the wiki (but realised I shouldn't):
  • The names aren't actually different. The game is called Pirates of the Caribbean, but is otherwise almost completely unconnected to the movie.

  • There are pervasive rumors that network execs passed on the proposal of Babylon 5, then immediately mimicked its premise and slapped the Star Trek label on it for what became Deep Space 9. Unlike usual, however, this did not stop it from being absolutely freaking awesome.
Zeke: God Almighty, will this never die? Yes, JMS pitched B5 to Paramount. Yes, that might have given them the idea (much later) for a space-station series. But only blind people could see either show as a ripoff of the other — they're just not that much alike. And even where similarities do exist, they're split about 50/50 between things B5 did first and things DS 9 did first. I get why JMS was, and remains, mad; whether Paramount consciously borrowed the station idea or not, they did cut into his market. (They also got DS 9 out first, making B5 look like the imitator.) But DS 9 as a Dolled Up Installment? Dolls look like what they're modeled on.
Yongary: I removed
  • Despite it being a very successful game in its own right, Fallout 3 is a Dolled Up Installment to the Fallout series (capitalizing thoroughly on that franchise), and a Spiritual Successor to the Elder Scrolls series (based profoundly on that franchise).

since Fallout 3 was never intended to be anything besides Fallout 3; the fact that it radically changed the gameplay and used the Oblivion engine still doesn't make it a Dolled-Up Installment.

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