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Yes, this has gotten more complicated than I thought, haha. The idea was that we determine the best possible tropes so that we minimize MG and CCR examples being constantly moved around... But this has now suddenly turned into dealing with {{Expy}} because the examples were being \
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Yes, this has gotten more complicated than I thought, haha. The idea was that we determine the best possible tropes so that we minimize MG and CCR examples being constantly moved around... But this has now suddenly turned into dealing with {{Expy}} because the examples were being \\\"finalized\\\" there so to speak. I even got both the [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16806356030A05135400&page=11 Star Rail Forums]] and [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13983140170A37263400&page=39 Expy Cleanup Thread]] talking about it on the same day, I guess.
Honestly, I can just really say that \\\'\\\'\\\'some editor(s) like(s) using the CompanyCrossReferences trope a lot, even if it\\\'s constantly challenged and moved by other different editors to different tropes such as {{Expy}} and MythologyGag\\\'\\\'\\\'... At least there should\\\'ve been a troper who can justify why CCR should\\\'ve been the best trope for character-specific comparisons, but there\\\'s no one in favor of it so far, not even in the actual edits. Now that I think about it, CompanyCrossReferences became a root cause of the problem which I noticed and wanted to point out.
Worse case, editors can have edit wars out of moving things back to their previous tropes without providing edit reasons... but if I\\\'m probably exhausted by noticing it at some point, I won\\\'t probably have the motivation to attempt to fix stuff regarding these specific tropes anymore.
Honestly, the \\\'\\\'Star Rail\\\'\\\' pages on this wiki are \\\'\\\'\\\'currently a mess\\\'\\\'\\\' when it comes to handling some \\\"reference to another character from the same company\\\" tropes such as these, especially the \\\'\\\'Genshin\\\'\\\' comparisons. It really seems like editors want to compare every [=miHoYo=] stuff to \\\'\\\'Genshin\\\'\\\' nowadays.
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It\\\'s actually fine and understandable if some {{Expy}} examples get deleted if they\\\'re questionable or deemed \\\"too superficial\\\" by other tropers.
I even got a PM from a fellow troper out of it as I moved the Hook, Serval, Clara, and Bailu examples to {{Expy}}... that the expy clean-up or move effort that we\\\'re having should\\\'ve been brought to the [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13983140170A37263400&page=39 Expy Cleanup Thread]] first.
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I haven\\\'t touched or moved any of the most obvious alternate \\\"look-alike\\\" \\\'\\\'Honkai\\\'\\\' characters (Himeko, Bronya, Seele, Natasha, Sushang, Otto/Luocha and Bronie/Silver Wolf) so far. Kafka might as well be in that list because there\\\'s also a Kafka in the previous two \\\'\\\'Honkai\\\'\\\' games.
Honestly, I can just really say that \\\'\\\'\\\'some editor(s) like(s) using the CompanyCrossReferences trope a lot, even if it\\\'s constantly challenged and moved by other different editors to different tropes such as {{Expy}} and MythologyGag\\\'\\\'\\\'... At least there should\\\'ve been a troper who can justify why CCR should\\\'ve been the best trope for character-specific comparisons, but there\\\'s no one in favor of it so far, not even in the actual edits. Now that I think about it, CompanyCrossReferences became a root cause of the problem which I noticed and wanted to point out.
Worse case, editors can have edit wars out of moving things back to their previous tropes without providing edit reasons... but if I\\\'m probably exhausted by noticing it at some point, I won\\\'t probably have the motivation to attempt to fix stuff regarding these specific tropes anymore.
Honestly, the \\\'\\\'Star Rail\\\'\\\' pages on this wiki are \\\'\\\'\\\'currently a mess\\\'\\\'\\\' when it comes to handling some \\\"reference to another character from the same company\\\" tropes such as these, especially the \\\'\\\'Genshin\\\'\\\' comparisons. It really seems like editors want to compare every [=miHoYo=] stuff to \\\'\\\'Genshin\\\'\\\' nowadays.
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It\\\'s actually fine and understandable if some {{Expy}} examples get deleted if they\\\'re questionable or deemed \\\"too superficial\\\" by other tropers.
I even got a PM from a fellow troper out of it as I moved the Hook, Serval, Clara, and Bailu examples to {{Expy}}... that the expy clean-up or move effort that we\\\'re having should\\\'ve been brought to the [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13983140170A37263400&page=39 Expy Cleanup Thread]] first.
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I haven\\\'t touched or moved any of the most obvious alternate \\\"look-alike\\\" \\\'\\\'Honkai\\\'\\\' characters (Himeko, Bronya, Seele, Natasha, Sushang, Otto/Luocha and Bronie/Silver Wolf) so far. Kafka might as well be in that list because there\\\'s also a Kafka in the previous two \\\'\\\'Honkai\\\'\\\' games.
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Yes, this has gotten more complicated than I thought, haha. The idea was that we determine the best possible tropes so that we minimize MG and CCR examples being constantly moved around... But this has now suddenly turned into dealing with {{Expy}} because the examples were being \
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Yes, this has gotten more complicated than I thought, haha. The idea was that we determine the best possible tropes so that we minimize MG and CCR examples being constantly moved around... But this has now suddenly turned into dealing with {{Expy}} because the examples were being \\\"finalized\\\" there so to speak. I even got both the [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16806356030A05135400&page=11 Star Rail Forums]] and [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13983140170A37263400&page=39 Expy Cleanup Thread]] talking about it on the same day, I guess.
Honestly, I can just really say that \\\'\\\'\\\'some editor(s) like(s) using the CompanyCrossReferences trope a lot, even if it\\\'s constantly challenged and moved by other different editors to different tropes such as {{Expy}} and MythologyGag\\\'\\\'\\\'... At least there should\\\'ve been a troper who can justify why CCR should\\\'ve been the best trope for character-specific comparisons, but there\\\'s no one in favor of it so far, not even in the actual edits. Now that I think about it, CompanyCrossReferences became a root cause of the problem which I noticed and wanted to point out.
Worse case, editors can have edit wars out of moving things back to their previous tropes without providing edit reasons... but if I\\\'m probably exhausted by noticing it at some point, I won\\\'t probably have the motivation to attempt to fix stuff regarding these specific tropes anymore.
Honestly, the \\\'\\\'Star Rail\\\'\\\' pages on this wiki are \\\'\\\'\\\'currently a mess\\\'\\\'\\\' when it comes to handling some \\\"reference to another character from the same company\\\" tropes such as these, especially the \\\'\\\'Genshin\\\'\\\' comparisons. It really seems like editors want to compare every [=miHoYo=] stuff to \\\'\\\'Genshin\\\'\\\' nowadays.
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It\\\'s actually fine and understandable if some {{Expy}} examples get deleted if they\\\'re questionable or deemed \\\"too superficial\\\" by other tropers.
I even got a PM from a fellow troper out of it as I moved the Hook, Serval, Clara, and Bailu examples to {{Expy}}... that the expy clean-up or move effort that we\\\'re having should\\\'ve been brought to the [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13983140170A37263400&page=39 Expy Cleanup Thread]] first.
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I haven\\\'t touched or moved any of the most obvious alternate \\\"look-alike\\\" \\\'\\\'Honkai\\\'\\\' characters (Himeko, Bronya, Seele, Natasha, Sushang, and Silver Wolf) so far. Kafka might as well be in that list because there\\\'s also a Kafka in the previous two \\\'\\\'Honkai\\\'\\\' games.
Honestly, I can just really say that \\\'\\\'\\\'some editor(s) like(s) using the CompanyCrossReferences trope a lot, even if it\\\'s constantly challenged and moved by other different editors to different tropes such as {{Expy}} and MythologyGag\\\'\\\'\\\'... At least there should\\\'ve been a troper who can justify why CCR should\\\'ve been the best trope for character-specific comparisons, but there\\\'s no one in favor of it so far, not even in the actual edits. Now that I think about it, CompanyCrossReferences became a root cause of the problem which I noticed and wanted to point out.
Worse case, editors can have edit wars out of moving things back to their previous tropes without providing edit reasons... but if I\\\'m probably exhausted by noticing it at some point, I won\\\'t probably have the motivation to attempt to fix stuff regarding these specific tropes anymore.
Honestly, the \\\'\\\'Star Rail\\\'\\\' pages on this wiki are \\\'\\\'\\\'currently a mess\\\'\\\'\\\' when it comes to handling some \\\"reference to another character from the same company\\\" tropes such as these, especially the \\\'\\\'Genshin\\\'\\\' comparisons. It really seems like editors want to compare every [=miHoYo=] stuff to \\\'\\\'Genshin\\\'\\\' nowadays.
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It\\\'s actually fine and understandable if some {{Expy}} examples get deleted if they\\\'re questionable or deemed \\\"too superficial\\\" by other tropers.
I even got a PM from a fellow troper out of it as I moved the Hook, Serval, Clara, and Bailu examples to {{Expy}}... that the expy clean-up or move effort that we\\\'re having should\\\'ve been brought to the [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13983140170A37263400&page=39 Expy Cleanup Thread]] first.
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I haven\\\'t touched or moved any of the most obvious alternate \\\"look-alike\\\" \\\'\\\'Honkai\\\'\\\' characters (Himeko, Bronya, Seele, Natasha, Sushang, and Silver Wolf) so far. Kafka might as well be in that list because there\\\'s also a Kafka in the previous two \\\'\\\'Honkai\\\'\\\' games.
