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So, WhatMeasureIsANonBadass. These examples are... not great? The trope is \\\"characters are mocked by fans because they\\\'re weak.\\\" These, however, seem to largely be \\\"fans are sad that these characters are weaker, therefore less relevant\\\" and/or \\\"these characters totally aren\\\'t that weak and if you say so you\\\'re wrong.\\\" Emphasizing the last one because they were largely added by one now-banned troper with serious control issues over the page.
Even if these are valid examples, they\\\'re not written up as such to fit the actual definition of the trope.
* WhatMeasureIsANonBadass: \\\'\\\'Dragon Ball\\\'\\\' fans are really guilty of this trope. If a character is not the strongest or near the top tier, they\\\'re written off as worthless.
** Gohan gets hit by this the most since he experienced BadassDecay that took him from being the strongest unfused character at the end of the Buu Saga to being far below Goku, Vegeta, a newly revived Frieza, Beerus, Whis, and later Future Trunks. Gohan, however, is still by far the strongest character outside of those characters. [[DemotedToExtra His lack of spotlight]] since the Resurrection \\\'F\\\' Saga hasn\\\'t helped anything. Some of this is finally beginning to ease now that Gohan has his Ultimate form back.
** Piccolo. Some fans are upset that he has been lagging behind the power scale since the end of the Cell Games since he can\\\'t even stall the BigBad and gets TheWorfEffect if he fights TheDragon. Piccolo refusing to train with Goku and Vegeta in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber during the Champa Saga, saying that he can\\\'t keep up with them, has also rubbed many the wrong way. Eventually, Piccolo does manage to catch up somewhat during the Universal tournament, but he still exists to highlight how being WeakButSkilled is not a bad thing and having a proper grasp of battle tactics is important. This also got better after fans saw Piccolo\\\'s performance against Super Saiyan 1 and 2 Gohan.
** All the fighters from U6 except Hit and to a lesser extent Magetta get this from some fans. They are called \\\'weak\\\' because only Magetta could challenge a regular Super Saiyan and only Hit is up to Super Saiyan Blue level, forgetting that Goku and Vegeta are literally {{Physical God}}s even in their base forms. Frost alone is stronger than Frieza after he trained outside of his ultimate transformation and Frieza in his first form shot holes through Super Saiyan Gohan, who was nearly comparable to Buu Saga Ultimate Gohan, and Cabba, who lacked a Super Saiyan form before Vegeta showed him how to do it, is likewise \\\'\\\'many\\\'\\\' times stronger than Gohan (since he\\\'s equal to Vegeta\\\'s base form). Some of this stigma is starting to fade away after fans saw how [[CurbStompBattle well]] Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks performed against Copy-Vegeta (who was as strong as base form Vegeta).
** It is safe to say \\\'\\\'any\\\'\\\' character who fails to push Goku or Vegeta into using their Super Saiyan Blue forms fall into this. Most of this is because the fandom completely [[UnderestimatingBadassery underestimates]] how powerful Goku and Vegeta have become, specifically in their base forms.
** Even Goku Black fell into this. After his first fight with Goku when he was only even with Super Saiyan 2 Goku (although it was clear that Black was holding back and had a case of WorfHadTheFlu), some fans dismissed him as overrated and wasn\\\'t a suitable threat. That is until Black got stronger, enough to take hits from Super Saiyan Blue Vegeta in his base form, and revealed his [[spoiler:Super Saiyan Rosé form]]. From there, he promptly takes out Vegeta and Goku with help from [[spoiler:Future Zamasu]]. For those who thought it was was a fluke and Black just took Vegeta and Goku by surprise, he did it again in their third fight with ease.
** [[spoiler:Future Zamasu]] gets this because fans think he\\\'s a cheat for being an [[spoiler:immortal]] and is a weakling who would have died several times. While [[spoiler:Future Zamasu]] is a cheat, he isn\\\'t as weak as fans make him out to be, mostly because they [[spoiler:think Future Zamasu is the same strength as Present Zamasu who got beaten by Super Saiyan 2 Goku]], when in fact [[spoiler:Future Zamasu]] is within the power range of Super Saiyan Blue Goku, although he is noticeably weaker. It also doesn\\\'t help that [[spoiler:Future Zamasu]] drops his guard all the time so people like Super Saiyan 2 Trunks can tag him.
Even if these are valid examples, they\\\'re not written up as such to fit the actual definition of the trope.
* WhatMeasureIsANonBadass: \\\'\\\'Dragon Ball\\\'\\\' fans are really guilty of this trope. If a character is not the strongest or near the top tier, they\\\'re written off as worthless.
** Gohan gets hit by this the most since he experienced BadassDecay that took him from being the strongest unfused character at the end of the Buu Saga to being far below Goku, Vegeta, a newly revived Frieza, Beerus, Whis, and later Future Trunks. Gohan, however, is still by far the strongest character outside of those characters. [[DemotedToExtra His lack of spotlight]] since the Resurrection \\\'F\\\' Saga hasn\\\'t helped anything. Some of this is finally beginning to ease now that Gohan has his Ultimate form back.
** Piccolo. Some fans are upset that he has been lagging behind the power scale since the end of the Cell Games since he can\\\'t even stall the BigBad and gets TheWorfEffect if he fights TheDragon. Piccolo refusing to train with Goku and Vegeta in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber during the Champa Saga, saying that he can\\\'t keep up with them, has also rubbed many the wrong way. Eventually, Piccolo does manage to catch up somewhat during the Universal tournament, but he still exists to highlight how being WeakButSkilled is not a bad thing and having a proper grasp of battle tactics is important. This also got better after fans saw Piccolo\\\'s performance against Super Saiyan 1 and 2 Gohan.
** All the fighters from U6 except Hit and to a lesser extent Magetta get this from some fans. They are called \\\'weak\\\' because only Magetta could challenge a regular Super Saiyan and only Hit is up to Super Saiyan Blue level, forgetting that Goku and Vegeta are literally {{Physical God}}s even in their base forms. Frost alone is stronger than Frieza after he trained outside of his ultimate transformation and Frieza in his first form shot holes through Super Saiyan Gohan, who was nearly comparable to Buu Saga Ultimate Gohan, and Cabba, who lacked a Super Saiyan form before Vegeta showed him how to do it, is likewise \\\'\\\'many\\\'\\\' times stronger than Gohan (since he\\\'s equal to Vegeta\\\'s base form). Some of this stigma is starting to fade away after fans saw how [[CurbStompBattle well]] Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks performed against Copy-Vegeta (who was as strong as base form Vegeta).
** It is safe to say \\\'\\\'any\\\'\\\' character who fails to push Goku or Vegeta into using their Super Saiyan Blue forms fall into this. Most of this is because the fandom completely [[UnderestimatingBadassery underestimates]] how powerful Goku and Vegeta have become, specifically in their base forms.
** Even Goku Black fell into this. After his first fight with Goku when he was only even with Super Saiyan 2 Goku (although it was clear that Black was holding back and had a case of WorfHadTheFlu), some fans dismissed him as overrated and wasn\\\'t a suitable threat. That is until Black got stronger, enough to take hits from Super Saiyan Blue Vegeta in his base form, and revealed his [[spoiler:Super Saiyan Rosé form]]. From there, he promptly takes out Vegeta and Goku with help from [[spoiler:Future Zamasu]]. For those who thought it was was a fluke and Black just took Vegeta and Goku by surprise, he did it again in their third fight with ease.
** [[spoiler:Future Zamasu]] gets this because fans think he\\\'s a cheat for being an [[spoiler:immortal]] and is a weakling who would have died several times. While [[spoiler:Future Zamasu]] is a cheat, he isn\\\'t as weak as fans make him out to be, mostly because they [[spoiler:think Future Zamasu is the same strength as Present Zamasu who got beaten by Super Saiyan 2 Goku]], when in fact [[spoiler:Future Zamasu]] is within the power range of Super Saiyan Blue Goku, although he is noticeably weaker. It also doesn\\\'t help that [[spoiler:Future Zamasu]] drops his guard all the time so people like Super Saiyan 2 Trunks can tag him.
