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Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
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#1: Oct 22nd 2010 at 8:53:22 AM

One thing that Just Bugs Me is the way inbound referrals are displayed, specifically the "since 20 Feb 2009" part. I know this is just a disclaimer identifying when the system was actually implemented, but it's too visible. Suggestions:

  • Include the age (i.e. date of oldest version) of the article on the "Related To" page. If an article is younger than 2-20-2009, it has always had referrals available, so mentioning the implementation date is redundant because the article hasn't actually been around that long.
  • For articles older than the referral system, make the implementation date less prominent. Like a parenthetical note saying something like "(Only referrals since 2-20-2009 are counted)" .

edited 22nd Oct '10 8:53:30 AM by Stratadrake

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#2: Oct 22nd 2010 at 8:56:16 AM

We don't have the date the page was originally made for many articles: the Great Crash of 08 wiped out page histories for most pages older than that. Plus, if a page name was re-purposed or the definition was changed considerably but the name was kept, when the name went into use has little bearing on anything any more.

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#3: Oct 22nd 2010 at 9:14:38 AM

Would it possible to have a time/link dispersal chart on it as well?

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Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
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#4: Oct 22nd 2010 at 1:00:32 PM

Plus, if a page name was re-purposed or the definition was changed considerably but the name was kept, when the name went into use has little bearing on anything any more.

I thought the process of renaming a page means the article's edit history are moved under the new name? Thus, the edit history of the "new" name includes the "old" article, and the "old" name is either unused or pertains to a now-different article with a separate creation date.

Also, the Great Crash occured before the referral system was built so it has no effects on the # logged inbounds.

edited 22nd Oct '10 1:01:09 PM by Stratadrake

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#5: Oct 22nd 2010 at 1:12:10 PM

Renaming does not transfer edit history. Functionally, we're creating a new article and redirecting people to it; there is not an actual replacement going on inside the database.

edited 22nd Oct '10 1:12:42 PM by Fighteer

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#6: Oct 22nd 2010 at 2:51:13 PM

^^ The suggestion was made to have the date the page was originally made noted on the referrals page. That data is unknown for most pages that predated the Great Crash.

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#7: Oct 22nd 2010 at 3:18:37 PM

^But we don't care about the dates those pages were originally created on, since we aren't counting referrals from then anyway. The point is to make it easier to distinguish "has 3 referrals because it was launched yesterday" from "has 3 referrals because it was launched six months ago and nobody cared".

edited 22nd Oct '10 3:22:51 PM by Micah

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Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
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#8: Oct 22nd 2010 at 6:09:55 PM

Renaming does not transfer edit history.
Well, that's a nice design flaw. I wonder how deep it runs?

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#9: Oct 22nd 2010 at 6:45:21 PM

Well, I think it's because it's not so much "renaming" as "taking everything from one page and putting it on another page."

edited 22nd Oct '10 6:45:26 PM by TheInferno

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#10: Oct 22nd 2010 at 6:46:20 PM

Is there a way to make a "trope moved here" tag or something so it will have a reference?

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