TLP workstation thread

I'm not sure how propeller hats relate to SF, but the speculative fiction fandom has a long history of being told to live in the real world and stop playing pretend.

So, I have this draft, Heavenly Concentric Circles, that is about when concentric circles are used to represent (or as geometrical motifs for) Heavenly planes or beings.

The thing is, I've run out of examples to add, and nobody has contributed any. Some help would be appreciated.

Am I allowed to start a draft without a name and leave the trope name suggestions to other posters?

It's best to seek that first in this very thread or Trope Idea Sounding Board.

Come up with a basic, subpar trope name and welcome trope name suggestions in the title if you want to do it in TLP.

If someone has any examples for Creator Acknowledged Achievement, they'd be most appreciated. I feel like people could use some new trivia and the draft seems like a good concept, but I lack potential wicks.

Can I get some feedback on the Devoted Fan Bonus Detail draft to see if it's in a launchworthy state, please? I asked there to see if there are any more issues to address but got no replies over the last few days, and I'm not going to launch the trope right away with a high 7-bomb count.

Edited by VintageEmma on Jun 30th 2023 at 8:53:23 AM

Okay. After being led here, I'm hoping to finally have some answers in resolving this lingering confusion and how to fix it.

So, I went on a discussion regarding my planned trope Symbolic Mirror Reflection, and its similarities with The Mirror Shows Your True Self.

The first sentence of the latter says: "This is a trope for all the times a character's reflection in a mirror is different from what others (viewer included) see with the naked eye."

Thing is, the wording of the trope implies truth, and I believe my confusion over that is what led me to wanting to make a new trope.

This post explains how the two tropes can be properly split up.

How do we fix the both of them so that we get proper distinction on which instance goes where?

My "Dressed To Oppress" TLP may have run into a snag, because I'm getting conflicting information about whether or not an intended Sub-Trope – Putting on the Reich – would invalidate it. The Putting on the Reich page itself has a paragraph mentioning:

But the Laconic page for Putting on the Reich only makes mention of the Nazis.

The central conceit of Dressed To Oppress is emulating the sartorial choices of all dictators, with Putting on the Reich being a subtrope dedicated to the Nazis.

Does Putting on the Reich invalidate my TLP or not?

Edited by DancouMaryuu on Jul 23rd 2023 at 11:41:35 AM

No, I don't think so.

If that's the case, then should the paragraph from Putting on the Reich be removed or edited?

Yes.

Checking to see how many non-Nazi examples are actually on Putting on the Reich would probably be helpful, though. I think that part of the description is shoehorned in, but I admit it probably depends on whether people use the trope that way. I can believe it's difficult to distinguish between regional variants on totalitarian chic, but I've never seen this trope applied with reference to the Roman or Mongol Empires - I've only ever seen those referenced under Fantasy Counterpart Culture.

Just had a look. The vast, vast majority of Putting on the Reich examples are Nazi-related. I'll hide the offending paragraph.

Hope this isn't the wrong place to ask...

How many - if any - people here would be interested in helping me craft a Useful Notes for Japanese Cuisine (Sushi and So On)? I think we're long overdue for one given how prominent Japanese dishes can be even in anime/manga that aren't Cooking Duel for Food Porn-centric.

I can rattle off a lot of Japanese dishes by name, but I'm afraid I haven't watched nearly as much anime/manga as most of you guys, and more importantly I have no brain for formal organization. The most bare-bones I can come up with right now is...

• A folder for sushi (and other seafood?)
• A folder for ramen and other noodle dishes
• A folder for desserts (like mochi and mame-daifuku)
• A folder for beverages - tea (fortunately Tea and Tea Culture has already done much of the legwork), liquors, Ramune...
• A folder for the super-expensive Specialty items = snow-crabs, Wagyu steak, etc.
• A folder for popular foreign imports like curry and Kentucky Fried Chicken

(If anyone's actually studied Japanese cuisine formally that'd be extra welcome, but right now I'm just hoping for general interest.)

I took over what's now Lie Of Omission draft, but I'm not sure if I'm the best person to bear it.

Currently wondering about the difference between You Didn't Ask and a Lie Of Omission. Are they different, and if so, am I right about how they're different?

• You Didn't Ask is "not volunteering info you were never asked about, even indirectly".
• [Lie Of Omission] is "Being asked about something and giving the minimum truth to satisfy someone even though you know they would like more."

Edited by Malady on Aug 21st 2023 at 1:47:12 AM

That sounds correct to me.

Head Meets Screen

I assume that someone's head has to break into the screen to apply (with the exception of a functional Television Portal I suppose). The first (rather wordy) example describes a bunch of instances where there is someone being hit against the screen, but the validity is dubious to me. Or could a head hitting the screen without damage to either be considered a downplayed example?

Planning to take over "No Pain, No Gain" by nuking it and making a draft (so it's neater) with its old title, Mandatory Damage, and restricting it to video / tabletop gaming, and gamebooks, with a Laconic of "Plot-mandated damage to the Player Character."

Does that sound like a good idea? Wanted to get a first opinion before formally taking it over. I guess I should use a Crowner instead? If so, can someone make me one, with the option of "Restrict to only Gaming?" since it's just a yes/no question.

Edited by Malady on Sep 15th 2023 at 7:21:47 AM

Is there a glitch on TLP at the moment. A sponsor mentioned noticing their draft update to say it had been edited by them when they'd been away from the site at the time. I've noticed a few drafts saying that they have been updated but with no obvious differences.

- Been tracking that bug here: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/query.php?parent_id=126915&type=bug

Edited by Malady on Sep 18th 2023 at 6:51:23 AM

You guys positive it's not the comment timestamp glitch?

They seem to get bumped as well as not having any edits / comments that correlate to it?

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/discussion.php?id=kgibly9474bn89ou8yygl19d

Says something's happened >12 minutes ago. But I don't see anything?

Edited by Malady on Sep 22nd 2023 at 8:25:27 AM

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/discussion.php?id=kgibly9474bn89ou8yygl19d - And now 5 minutes ago? Anyone else seeing it?

I really hope it's not triggering on hats / bombs.

- Thanks. I assume you see it too. I wouldn't have brought it up if not for

Edited by Malady on Sep 23rd 2023 at 3:14:41 AM

It's a bug, which you've already reported at Query Bugs, we get it. This isn't related to improving draft's writing topic.

Comments such as these have been going ignored on Sympathetic Villain, Pure Evil Villain, (which I could have sworn the consensus was for a name change to Sympathetic Villain, Despicable Villain).

I have already alerted the sponsor.

Edited by SkyCat32 on Oct 2nd 2023 at 1:33:35 PM

Hello, would like to ask if it'd be fine to copy Sandbox.An Edgelord JFF to TLP, or it needs more work and also settle if it should be YMMV or JFF.