When They Cry - Higurashi and Umineko

...This quotation suddenly feels very important:

"Suppose you are reading a detective story with an intriguing situation. A corpse (let us say) is found strangled, sitting in a chair by a window, and wearing a domino mask; and all the clocks in the house are found with their faces turned to the wall. You are carefully warned that the blazing clue to the truth is the fact that there is a teaspoon in the victim's pocket, and that, without all these things being just as they were, the crime could never have taken place. ... Now, suppose at the denoument the identity of the killer was revealed — for the simple reason that his fingerprints matched those on the collar of the strangled man. Would you feel cheated? That's exactly what might happen in life; but would you feel cheated? You know damn well you would. ... He admits the crime. Then he shoots himself. Consequently, you never know the significance of the mask or the reversed clocks, or what deduction you should have drawn from the teaspoon. Page 315, 'The End'. What would you do? You would strangle the author, lynch the publisher, and shoot the bookseller.

That's slightly spoilerish, Novatel.

What was Rika planning to do with the syringe in the Shion's arc (I forgot the name)? Where does even get those anyway?

She lives with Satoko, who needs them. She wanted to inject it to Shion to control the Hinamizawa syndrome's symptoms.

Finished episode 4 of Umineko. Itchin to get the next 4.

Was creeped out by Lamda's smile at the end of the ???. Shit, she might not be the Rika we all know and luv.

anyone else play the fighting game yet,im maining battler and shannon

Higurashi question: is the sensation of Oyashiro-sama watching over someone as they sleep them detecting Hanyuu or is it just a symptom of Hinamizawa Syndrome?

^ I think it's the latter. Hanyuu really sticks around Rika for the most part, at least if I recall correctly.

^^It's the former augmented by the latter, I think.

edited 7th Jan '11 10:20:04 PM by INUH

Just what is Hinamizawa Sydrome? I always thought the halluncinations was supposed to be supernatural however it just difficult to accept that it is actually a disease. How it is that one character dies or Hinamazawa is destroyed and it comes back in another arc?

Oh... someone has to watch more of Higurashi. The second season explains most of it. You do know that that exists, right?

I'm reading the Mangas right now, though the last 3 chapters of Meakashi-hen are almost impossible to find.

So I just thought I'd drop by and mention that I'm doing a deduction-focused liveblog of Umineko now. I'll just leave a link here in case anyone's interested.

I've finally started liveblogging EP 7. This is an... interesting start.

Reading through the Beyond Midnight arc of Higurashi. Enjoyable, it is. Except for the fact that it's given me an idea for a story to write for my fanfic, but I already am writing the second arc and I don't want Schedule Slip.

God, if I had a better comp I'd be playing the fuck out of Ougon Musou Kyoku. I'd probably do a team of Ange and Luci-nee, based on what I see from their gameplay.

Shame. -___-

Anyway, Umineko EP 8 question: If Battler is a survivor and adopts the name Hachijou Touya in the course of regaining his memories, then what is his relation to Featherine, whose alias is also Hachijou Touya?

From what I understand the Hachijou Touya we know is the one housing him, publishing his works, and helping him try to figure out just what in the holy fuck happened at Rokkenjima. It's a joint name, more or less. Of course, my info is pretty secondhand, since I don't speak moon and no longer have a moonspeaking roommate, so take that with some salt.

So Featherine and Battler in effect have the same alias of Hachijou Touya, and Hachijou Touya houses Battler in the same effect that Rika housed Bernkastel in Higurashi?

Well, that's my understanding. :O

Question about the Beyond Midnight (Yoigoshi-hen) arc.

At least two of the characters heard phantom footsteps. But they didn't have Hinamizawa Syndrome. The heck?

That's not so confusing. People are allowed to have their own opinions about what happened. It doesn't have to be Hinamizawa Syndrome. It could be that someeone only thought that they heard a footstep, when it could have been an animal or something of the like. It could also be that someone is lying about what really happened.

Actually, I think this is a recurring theme in the franchise. It even extends to Umineko. Speaking of which, I hope when the second season of the anime comes out, they...er, adapt it better than the first one.

^ What first one?

Umineko is proving to be so much better than Higurashi so far due to how far Ryu07 has planned ahead despite the convolutedness. It's its own special appeal, I'd say.

I dunno. I always had the feeling that Ryukushi prepares all of the details of whatever he is going to write before he actually sits down and writes stuff. Not just Umineko.

Remember how in Onikakushi-hen Miyo was introduced extremely early on, Rika was mentioned to be very skilled at whatever she does, and how when Keiichi is about to dodge the car, he feels like time is stopping? That's potentially foreshadowing for half the things that happen in later arcs.

Overall, I would say the story had been planned and detailed out from before Onikakushi. Hell, even though supernatural creatures such as Hanyuu exists in Higurashi, all the clues to solve the mystery are there.

Umineko's more appealing, personally, because it's more convoluted. Just me though. I mean, c'mon, Battler is actually trying to regain his memories in 1998 of the murders through the games under the alias of Hachijou Touya? It's like, how the fuck does that work, and then Ryu will somehow string it all together in a way that makes sense.

Terminology question: is Angel Mort a cosplay cafe?

It's not since they're only limited to the uniforms. I'd say a different kind of maid cafe.