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Psyga315 Since: Jan, 2001
#1301: Jul 29th 2010 at 6:36:23 PM

I have been thinking about the opening forward from the PDF, the one that says "Assume you are an adventure saving a princess". I think what Hall was trying to do was outline the alignments.

I apoligize if I am stating the obvious, but I just felt like pointing that out.

Zakdos Boiling blood from the ashes Since: Apr, 2010
Boiling blood
#1302: Jul 30th 2010 at 2:19:08 AM

No neutral alignments? This guy hasn't the slightest bit of decency!

edited 30th Jul '10 2:23:32 AM by Zakdos

I ain't saying no showy crap like "later buddies" or something lame like that. I'll be back soon, you bozos!
Haven Planescape Hijack Since: Jan, 2001
Planescape Hijack
#1303: Jul 30th 2010 at 7:27:56 PM

Not having something neutral is understandable; it's pretty hard to imagine something more acid and base than this.

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Comonad This bacon is awesome from 19th Jan '38 3:14:07 AM Since: Jan, 2001
This bacon is awesome
#1304: Jul 30th 2010 at 8:47:36 PM

Rescuing the princess for a reward is pretty neutral. And there's nothing particularly lawful about rescuing the princess for the good of humanity.  *

have a debauchery of 100

...

Ethicality is 1 (unethical), morality is 1 (immoral)

Byron Hall statistics save the day yet again.

edited 30th Jul '10 8:47:50 PM by Comonad

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CountDorku Since: Jan, 2001
#1305: Jul 30th 2010 at 10:24:07 PM

Now all we need is something to save the day from Byron Hall statistics.

ShiningDrake Cynical Idealist from deep within boredom Since: Aug, 2010
Cynical Idealist
#1306: Aug 5th 2010 at 5:25:46 PM

...Wow. I just finished reading through this thread. The sad part is, it doesn't even surprise me that SOMEONE would make something so simultaneously repulsive and idiotic. No matter the depths of the depravity, someone will sink to it, and it looks like Byron Hall sunk pretty freaking low in making this.

On a side note, I truly feel sorry for those who read through the entire book. Your sacrifices will not be forgotten. Well, whatever you call subjecting yourself to all of that.

The world is a cruel, twisted place... And that is why... It MUST improve. And I will fight for that to happen.
WillyFourEyes I have seen the amateur, and it is me. (Old Enough To Drive) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
jamosup Since: Dec, 1969
#1308: Aug 11th 2010 at 4:09:03 PM

I have to wonder if this is even legal. I'm not being ironic here, I'm seriously wondering if this could get Byron Hall registered as a sex offender. Then I can die happily.

Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#1309: Aug 11th 2010 at 9:33:14 PM

If just writing creepy shit was enough, something like a quarter of the population would be registered.

edited 11th Aug '10 9:33:23 PM by Hylarn

Medinoc from France (Before Recorded History)
#1310: Aug 12th 2010 at 3:17:46 AM

Yeah, let's not delve to these extremes here. Burn a book, burn all books.

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."
jaimeastorga2000 Indeed Since: May, 2011
Indeed
#1311: Aug 12th 2010 at 10:15:11 AM

Agreed, Medinoc, agreed.

"If just writing creepy shit was enough, something like a quarter of the population would be registered."

And about nine tenths of the internet. It would get pretty deserted around here...

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jamosup Since: Dec, 1969
#1312: Aug 12th 2010 at 10:18:35 AM

I guess I overreacted, but still. Damn. Broken game mechanics, mind-breaking content. A winning combination.

StalkThis Hmm? from Left of something cool Since: Sep, 2009
Hmm?
#1313: Aug 12th 2010 at 7:04:28 PM

  • deep breath*

WHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?????

Comonad This bacon is awesome from 19th Jan '38 3:14:07 AM Since: Jan, 2001
This bacon is awesome
#1314: Aug 13th 2010 at 1:11:51 AM

Besides, you don't really want to spring this thing on an entire courtroom, do you? Even lawyers don't deserve that.

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FarseerLolotea from America's Finest City Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#1315: Aug 13th 2010 at 5:33:15 AM

I wish I could believe that FATAL was the tabletop-game equivalent of a trollfic.  It would restore a sliver of my faith in humanity.

Then again, it'd imply that that's Hall's idea of a joke. Which really isn't much better.

WillyFourEyes I have seen the amateur, and it is me. (Old Enough To Drive) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Comonad This bacon is awesome from 19th Jan '38 3:14:07 AM Since: Jan, 2001
This bacon is awesome
#1317: Aug 15th 2010 at 1:47:35 PM

If Hall is a troll, he's truly a master of the art form. Just look at how long this thread is.

It actually seems plausible to me. Hanlon's Razor applies, of course, but I'm not so sure that FATAL can be adequately explained by stupidity.

edited 15th Aug '10 1:48:14 PM by Comonad

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FarseerLolotea from America's Finest City Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#1318: Aug 15th 2010 at 7:50:42 PM

"This law relies on the assumption that ignorance in and of itself isn't malicious."

And considering some of the crap that Hall writes? I'd say that it's a combination of both, compounded with the mentality of a little boy who still thinks toilet humor is the height of wit.

alarkhar Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Desperate
#1319: Aug 16th 2010 at 5:03:57 PM

Out of curiosity, does anyone have the ORIGINAL FATAL (you know, the one with mega-racist items)? Aside from a bit of sick curiosity (emphasis on "sick", since I have read the "sanitized" version and I regretted it immensely) I'm tempted to slip it to a pal of mine that thinks he can play ANY RPG. Let's see you play THIS, pal. (No, I'm not being evil... just vindictive. He busted up about five campaigns in the past with his "the best there is" attitude, you see)

Platypi hold the secret to happiness.
WillyFourEyes I have seen the amateur, and it is me. (Old Enough To Drive) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
I have seen the amateur, and it is me.
alarkhar Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Desperate
#1321: Aug 16th 2010 at 5:22:33 PM

Wouldn't that make him your best friend?

Platypi hold the secret to happiness.
Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#1322: Aug 16th 2010 at 7:16:45 PM

Mechanically, the 'clean' version is even worse. This more than makes up for the removal of a few items that are unlikely to appear in-game.

alarkhar Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Desperate
#1323: Aug 16th 2010 at 8:49:38 PM

Well, that makes me even more curious about the original...

Platypi hold the secret to happiness.
Comonad This bacon is awesome from 19th Jan '38 3:14:07 AM Since: Jan, 2001
This bacon is awesome
#1324: Aug 17th 2010 at 6:10:26 PM

Wait, this was the sanitized version? What?

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Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#1325: Aug 17th 2010 at 9:58:00 PM

The second printing just removed a couple of the most horrifying items (The racists ones and maybe one or two others), changed the backronym, and increased the number of dice required for rolling for stats. Quite minor.


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