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BobbyG vigilantly taxonomish from England Since: Jan, 2001
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#126: Nov 5th 2009 at 12:36:53 PM

Boobs Of Steel: Superstrong women have Superboobs

No. That trope already means something else: namely, the tendency for the largest chested female character in a given work to be the strongest or most competent brawler.

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GreatLich Since: Jun, 2009
#127: Nov 5th 2009 at 3:07:24 PM

Black Humor wrote: Have I made my point?
Eh, no? Out of those listed only 2 have large breasts...

edited 5th Nov '09 3:07:38 PM by GreatLich

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#128: Nov 5th 2009 at 7:03:33 PM

No. That trope already means something else: namely, the tendency for the largest chested female character in a given work to be the strongest or most competent brawler.

That's... what I said.

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BobbyG vigilantly taxonomish from England Since: Jan, 2001
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#129: Nov 5th 2009 at 7:21:18 PM

No, you said superstrong women have superboobs. Not the same thing at all. It's not specific to people with superstrength, and it's about having the largest breast size in relation to the rest of the cast, not simply having large breasts.

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#130: Nov 5th 2009 at 7:38:17 PM

I believe Known Unknown was just simplifying it a bit, but I agree with the breakdown.

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#131: Nov 5th 2009 at 9:02:10 PM

^ Aye.

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Janitor chemistry dork from Berne, Switzerland Since: Jan, 2001
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#132: Nov 15th 2009 at 10:11:45 AM

Woops, almost jumped the gun.

edited 15th Nov '09 10:14:02 AM by Janitor

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#133: Nov 16th 2009 at 6:07:07 AM

We already have the supertrope, Heroic Build, as a result of the last discussion.

Personally, I think we should merge Most Common Superpower into it, because "superheroes have large, shapely breasts" isn't really distinct from "superheroes have great bodies".

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SandJosieph Bigonkers! is Magic from Grand Galloping Galaday Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Brony
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#134: Nov 16th 2009 at 12:10:40 PM

But superheroines having large breasts can be an issue if it's really forced. And since a big deal is made of the issue, it should be kept separate from other tropes.

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
Janitor chemistry dork from Berne, Switzerland Since: Jan, 2001
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#136: Nov 16th 2009 at 8:30:18 PM

Yeah, let's just take Most Common Superpower back to the original definition, which was that breasts swell up when a super dons the costume and become remarkably self-supporting.

The fact that a lot of super-women have ridiculously large breasts is something else. Not a particularly interesting something else. Worth maybe a sentence in the Fanservice article.

edited 16th Nov '09 8:30:36 PM by Janitor

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#137: Nov 16th 2009 at 10:02:54 PM

If comic book artists actively choose to draw their heroines and villainesses with large breasts, that would be a trope, as it's a convention of the medium.

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#138: Nov 16th 2009 at 11:01:47 PM

Maybe we need some comparative pictures. And a chart.

SandJosieph Bigonkers! is Magic from Grand Galloping Galaday Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Brony
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#139: Nov 18th 2009 at 10:56:58 AM

I've been thinking about this one and I hate to admit it, but Most Common Superpower is more along the lines of Most Common Side Effect. So if we want to keep Most Common Superpower as the title, it may need an entire overhaul.

edited 18th Nov '09 10:57:41 AM by Sand Josieph

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#141: Nov 18th 2009 at 12:59:16 PM

The way I see it:

About that original meaning... I don't really see a lot of examples of characters gaining sudden super-sexiness once they put on their costume too often, at least not examples that aren't actually them hiding their physique (a la Clark Kent) or a parody. It happens occasionally, but in the end much of the time it's not that they gain a figure but that the costume is just ridiculously form fitting (which is a trope all on it's own), while examples of both a costume, powers, and a physique coming from the same source (which I do see occasionally) would be under Super Physique.

Btw, how do I make lines without having to double space or make bullets?

edited 18th Nov '09 1:02:43 PM by Known Unknown

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prescience Friendly Satanist from Present Day,Present Time Since: Jan, 2001
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#142: Nov 18th 2009 at 1:10:41 PM

Put a \\\\ at the end of the line.

For some reason, when you edit a post containing a \\\\, it gets replaced with a single \\ so you have to remember to double them up again before submitting... just bugs me

edited 18th Nov '09 1:11:14 PM by prescience

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SandJosieph Bigonkers! is Magic from Grand Galloping Galaday Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Brony
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#143: Nov 18th 2009 at 1:11:21 PM

When I think of large breasts and superheroines, I think along the lines of "With Big Breasts Comes Great Heroics". I think I've said that before.

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#144: Nov 18th 2009 at 9:35:15 PM

Okay, how about Most Common Superpower as "writers / illustrators / animators choose to have their female characters have big breasts." In that way, it's similar to Male Gaze. Super Physique would probably be, not just about breasts, but highly sexualized bodies (like the above example of She-Hulk).

SandJosieph Bigonkers! is Magic from Grand Galloping Galaday Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Brony
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#145: Nov 18th 2009 at 10:15:09 PM

Perhaps it should be as a way of comparing two kinds of characters in a series. Like if the woman with the super heroics has the largest breasts, she could qualify.

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#146: Nov 21st 2009 at 9:29:45 PM

wasn't going to post here until I read "Rangiku Gambit". I absolutely have to vote that down. Bleach isn't that major a series, and Rangiku isn't that major a character ...yet. also, how is this a gambit?

My understanding of Most Common Superpower is the tendency of superpowered women to have large breasts. Yes or no?

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SandJosieph Bigonkers! is Magic from Grand Galloping Galaday Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Brony
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#147: Nov 21st 2009 at 10:16:39 PM

It's a tendency of super heroines (with or without powers) to be well endowed. Which, regretably, still sounds like Most Common Side Effect.

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MiracleWhipHipster Since: Sep, 2009
#148: Nov 21st 2009 at 10:32:11 PM

Don't rename it. Most Common Superpower is one of my favourite names, and it you can't keep the trope straight you have issues.

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apple3 Asexuality from Eden Vital afta Ragnarok Since: Nov, 2009
#149: Nov 24th 2009 at 1:28:09 PM

Yes, lets have the name stay the same, or atleast call it Power Girl Power Up which I like too and conveys what it means too.

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Wee-Knoxy :(u) from Bonnie Scotland Since: Feb, 2010
#150: Sep 29th 2010 at 9:45:40 AM

The problem with the name is that it implies that large breasts are a superpower which is why it is used wrong.

I think Super Side Effects is a catchy name and it definitely sounds specific to Supers. Not much to do with breasts but neither is Most Common Superpower.

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