Not paging the OP due to his absence.
Anyway, I agree that this is an arbitrary combination of traits. Funny Robot could apply to funny examples (with the caveat that we apparently don't already have any examples like that, or at least the wick check didn't find any), and scary examples would just be Monster Clowns that happen to be robots (potentially also being Killer Robots).
Edited by GastonRabbit on Feb 21st 2024 at 3:18:37 AM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.I don't think it's inherently untropeworthy, but what would make it so are actually combinations of different tropes:
- Surprizingly emotional robots (ex. Funny Robot)
- Robots as jester slaves, often The Comically Serious (Just a Machine?)
- Ruthless robots in childish costumes (Monster Clown, Villainous Harlequin, Killer Robot)
- Robot's anatomy used for magic tricks (Do-Anything Robot)
We could disambiguate and yard where possible.
Edited by Amonimus on Feb 21st 2024 at 2:22:12 PM
TroperWall / WikiMagic CleanupDisambiguate
she/her | TRS needs your help! | Contributor of Trope ReportDisambiguate.
back lolClear disambiguate this mess (as in, the (ex-)trope).
Edited by AbsoluteRainbow on Feb 22nd 2024 at 7:56:57 PM
Absolute Rainbowto Disambig then
Disambiguate
Kirby is awesome.Disambig.
I'm also wondering if we could create a Useful Notes page about precursors to the takeovers humanity stereotypically "fears" most, both real and part-apocryphal (something like Freaky Precursors To Automatons Clowns And Zombies)? There's some interesting history there.
Edited by Coachpill on Feb 22nd 2024 at 11:43:17 AM
Silver and gold, silver and goldI have no idea what any of that means, but doesn't sound like TLP would be needed for it.
TroperWall / WikiMagic CleanupI meant like, the common things in fiction that take over the world or whatever, and the history behind the myths that that can happen in real life. So zombies, giant robots, etc. I figured I wouldn't need TLP but I'm curious about whether it's worth doing, since I've got this gut feeling that we already have a page like that in Mythology. The description seems to allude to some of that.
Edited by Coachpill on Feb 22nd 2024 at 12:30:26 PM
Silver and gold, silver and goldHooked a crowner.
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.Don't forget Ninja Pirate Zombie Robot!
Kirby is awesome."And possibly other tropes".
Anything left off can just be added later.
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure PurenessCorrect.
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.Thanks.
Kirby is awesome.In the crowner, I gave a to disambiguating.
Calling in favor of disambiguating.
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.Cleaned up all the Main/ wicks.
Dewicking's done, so locking.
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
Crown Description:
There are concerns that Robot Clown is an arbitrary combination of concepts (with most wicks simply being robots who happen to be clowns), and that the trope is redundant with Funny Robot Just A Machine, Monster Clown, Villainous Harlequin, Killer Robot, and Do Anything Robot. What should be done with Robot Clown?
To-do list:
Courtesy link to the original TLP draft.
The problem: Robot Clown is a trope about robots who happen to be clowns. The description tries to explain ways this could be tropeworthy, ranging from making the robots seem scarier (in cases of a Monster Clown), and this description of how the two contrast:
However, most of the description is just an explanation of the history of the relationship between clowns and robots, and certain parts of the description seem to imply that this trope is literally just "robot + clown", such as this part:
I raised these concerns a while back in the TRS meta thread, and was told both that this concept seemed like just "robot + clown" and might be redundant/mergable with Funny Robot (per MacronNotes). I decided to do a wick check to see if there was a problem.
Wick check: Link here, but here's the quick results:
Totaled together, that's
Analysis: Alright, so there were several wicks that actually tried to use the robot clown dynamic in a meaningful, tropeworthy way. However, the majority of examples were either a robot who happens to be a clown, or lacked context or were unclear. Many were furthermore just references to characters who were robot clowns. Interestingly, however, no examples (that I could see) overlapped with Funny Robot.
Possible solutions: Since "robot + clown" isn't really tropeworthy, I recommend either disambiguating with any relevant tropes, merging with Funny Robot (which I was told was still possible in spite of the wick check), or just cut outright (with any tropeworthy ideas yarded).
What does everyone else think? Any other ideas or suggestions?
Wick check:
Here, a wick check will be performed for Robot Clown.Why?: Robot Clown is suspected of just being "robot + clown" as written, and overlap with Funny Robot has been brought up as well. This check will see if there's other salvageable use.
Wicks checked: 50/50
Wick totals:
Totaled together, that's
Edited by GastonRabbit on Feb 28th 2024 at 3:20:23 AM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.