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artman40 Since: Jan, 2001
#1: Jan 30th 2024 at 11:58:49 PM

Can a character be The Scrappy only if the work has unironic fans? Can fair critics substitute for them when judging the work? What if the said character were the reason or one of the reasons the work received negative reception in the first place while other aspects of the work were at least passable, if not good?

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#2: Jan 31st 2024 at 2:04:44 PM

If it's mixed, then it can definitely have The Scrappy. If it's completely negative, I'd say "no", based on this one rule on the main page:

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#3: Feb 1st 2024 at 10:59:44 PM

[up] In addition to that, if a work is negatively-received (especially if it's considered So Bad, It's Horrible), it's likely that a good percentage of the cast is widely disliked as well. I don't really think I've heard of any cases where a work was negatively received just because of one character; if that was the case, it's more likely that the work got mixed reception at worst.

That's why it's also fairly difficult to classify a main character as The Scrappy; if the main character of a work is hated by most fans, there's a good chance that the work wasn't so well-received either.

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#4: Feb 8th 2024 at 9:17:12 AM

The important distinction is if the character is hated by fans of the work. If a work is negatively received, but still has a fandom, we'll need evidence that the character in question is hated even by them.

I've had to remove examples from Norm of the North, Plan Bee, and The Hunchback of Notre Dame (Golden Films) because all three are already classed under So Bad, It's Horrible.

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AbsoluteRainbow Absolute Rainbow & the tales between worlds from Hanoi, Vietnam Since: Jul, 2023
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#5: Feb 8th 2024 at 9:20:42 AM

Which means that as long as there's any unironic 'fandom' of a work, then The Scrappy can be applied, as long as the worl' reputation and reception isn't too negative.

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