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Tehrannotaur Since: Mar, 2013
#1: Jan 27th 2024 at 6:45:15 PM

With the Heroes index renamed to Hero Tropes, I think it's about time that the Villains index be renamed to, say, Villain Tropes. I think such a renaming would better describe the index as not only does the index have villainous character archetypes (the "Villains" in the Villains index) but also villainous actions (i.e. Cut Lex Luthor a Check, Unhand Them, Villain!) and appearance characerizations (i.e. Bald of Evil).

Edited by Tehrannotaur on Jan 27th 2024 at 7:21:04 AM

WarJay77 Discarded and Feeling Blue (Troper Knight)
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#2: Jan 27th 2024 at 6:48:07 PM

Heroes Index wasn't ever a thing. It was just Heroes. And there's no need to rename the index if it's not being somehow misused.

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Tehrannotaur Since: Mar, 2013
#3: Jan 27th 2024 at 6:53:33 PM

My reasoning was that Villain Tropes would sound more accurate an index as the index includes not only villainous character archetypes but also villainous appearance characterizations and actions (like you can't call Unhand Them, Villain! a Villain as it's not a character archetype). The former Heroes index was also like that in that it showed not only heroic character archetypes but also heroic appearance characterizations and actions. Also Villains has been used as if it was also a trope in addition to an index when it should just strictly be an index. You can see the amount of times Villains has been used like it was a trope in this link below

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/relatedsearch.php?term=Main/Villains

Also Villains has a laconic page when Laconic pages are banned for Indexes (as Villains is an index)

Edited by Tehrannotaur on Jan 27th 2024 at 7:26:43 AM

MorganWick (Elder Troper)
#4: Jan 28th 2024 at 1:22:19 AM

[up][up]He was referring to "the Heroes index", that is, "the index [formerly] called Heroes".

WarJay77 Discarded and Feeling Blue (Troper Knight)
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#6: Jan 28th 2024 at 1:50:56 AM

That makes more sense, yeah.

I'm not opposed to the rename if people want to do it, I just don't think we should find it a big concern to do. Heroes was moved as part of The Hero's TRS.

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Tehrannotaur Since: Mar, 2013
#7: Jan 28th 2024 at 3:25:40 AM

Also, as I said earlier, Villains has a laconic page when it should not have one as it's an index (indexes cannot have laconic pages) so we can start by removing the laconic page.

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