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Hello everyone!

While the tasks I've completed so far go through the review process, my next project I'll be working on is improving the Trope Launch Pad as much as possible.

Below is a list of the current ideas for changes and improvements and wanted to ask the community if I'm missing anything important or if you have suggestions or questions about things currently on the list please let me know! grin

     TLP Improvements to come 
MAIN UPDATES:
  • Disable hats/bombs & comments on discarded drafts
  • TLP History needs fixing: Bug
  • Auto-crosswick when page is launched.
  • Three day wait period before any hats or bombs can be added.
  • Last edited time visible on main listing page.
  • Send notifications to authors of drafts whenever there's a comment or change.
  • New TLP header by Willbyr
  • Expected launch time input field
  • add ability to holler TLP comments
  • Tag system. (“Needs better title”, “needs better description”, “needs examples” etc)
  • Disable launch button if any tags present
  • Add username of who launched a page under Page Info in the sidebar.
  • Show last 5 newest tropes launched on home page
  • show red links in comments. All links showing blue. (Add Customizer() function to comments)
  • increase draft description box size
  • edit locks to prevent duplicates and conflicts.
  • ^Pop up when clicking launch a trope draft.
  • Mods able to remove hats & bombs.
  • Bookmark button when viewing individual TLP drafts
  • Rename "YKTTW Archive" to "Trope Launch Pad Archive" on discussion pages
  • Fix edit time glitch ("last edited by" goes based on last comment and not last edit)
  • Status or special notes field: Wish
  • Fix TLP search to first use titles then descriptions. Wish, Bug
  • Mods and Authors will be able to set drafts to “up for grabs” which will display on the main page
  • Be able to transfer ownership to someone else: Thread
  • Bombs need a reason and then also display those reasons below the trope. Wish, Wish
  • Alter pop up message when clicking bomb: Wish
  • Show that you’ve hatted or bombed a draft. Wish
  • Be unable to hat your own TLP. Wish
  • Change “Launch a New Trope” button text to “Create Trope Draft For Review” or “Create New Trope Draft”.
  • Remove your hat or bomb on a TLP draft without switching to the other. Wish
  • Disable launch button for anyone but mods and authors
  • Change “add hat” to “Launch Ready!” and “discard” to “Not Ready” or “Don’t Launch” and Hat icon changed to Rocket.
  • Laconic field, as well as title and description, will be mandatory for new drafts submissions. Wish
  • Auto launch laconic page Wish
  • Be able to launch other page types via the TLP
  • TLP History added to drop-down.
  • Multiple sections and/or filters for page types
  • make it so that leaving a comment on a draft does not reset the counter on "last edited by" Bug, Bug
  • idea Your next great idea! idea

LOW PRIORITY:

  • Search function for discards Wish
  • 20+ blank pages at end of pagination
  • main/tropelaunchpad redirect to TLP
  • “folders open” setting not working for TLP
  • link to created page on draft when it’s launched
  • TLP history of bombs/hats put in order
  • Bombs on night vision too dark red. Wish
  • Fix backslash issue in TLP drafts. (Every time you save a draft with backslashes, the number of backslashes gets cut in half, rounded down.)
  • Mods able to Thump / delete comments.
     TLP related changes awaiting review 
  • Adds Preview functionality & image upload button to drafts and comments (plus emoji support/bar).

    Current Projects In Development: 

CURRENT PROGRESS:(needs design work) https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/screen_shot_2023_08_10_at_25434_pm.png

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Edited by kory on Dec 21st 2023 at 11:52:29 AM

Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#51: Jul 4th 2023 at 6:18:15 PM

Just making sure, the issue with tons of blank pages at the end of the default TLP list... Isn't on the list of fixes. I assume because it's harder than all the rest?

[down] - True, and thanks!

Edited by Malady on Jul 4th 2023 at 8:50:22 AM

Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576
kory Admin from a universe without doors (The New Guy) Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Admin
#52: Jul 4th 2023 at 6:21:04 PM

malady,

Blank pages at the end of something that has over 300 pages isn't a high priority but I'm sure fixing it would be pretty simple. If i get through this list of changes fairly quickly then i'll also fix that. [tup]

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Asterlix Waffle Cat (she/her) from Ooo Since: Feb, 2022 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Waffle Cat (she/her)
#53: Jul 4th 2023 at 9:19:22 PM

I'd like to suggest adding a "follow this draft" option. Akin to what we have for forum threads. It'd be useful for two reasons: one, the author gets notified about new replies/edits to the draft and two, people engaged in the discussion can also get alerted of new developments.

Here there be cats.
kory Admin from a universe without doors (The New Guy) Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Admin
#54: Jul 4th 2023 at 10:09:53 PM

Asterlix,

Isn’t that what the TLP history is for? it already shows drafts you’ve commented on. I could just make it so it shows the number of comments and when there’s a reply?

Edited by kory on Jul 4th 2023 at 10:10:21 AM

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MacronNotes (she/her) (Captain) Relationship Status: Less than three
(she/her)
#55: Jul 4th 2023 at 10:14:12 PM

The flag icon that's on every draft is the follow button for TLP. I think it's supposed to be changed to something that's more clearly associated with following a page like a pin/thumbtack in a future update.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 4th 2023 at 1:14:35 PM

Macron's notes
Chabal2 Since: Jan, 2010
#56: Jul 4th 2023 at 10:20:55 PM

Would it be possible to fix indentation markup?

Basically, using \\ at the end of a line to apply the indentation level to the next line changes to \ when saving edits, which screws up the formatting, meaning you have to start each indented line with -->.

Also, redlinks don't show up as such in comments, is it possible to fix that?

Edited by Chabal2 on Jul 4th 2023 at 7:21:09 PM

Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#57: Jul 4th 2023 at 10:25:16 PM

Fyi, I assume that slash issue is the one explained in the page ender on the last page?

Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576
Chabal2 Since: Jan, 2010
#58: Jul 4th 2023 at 10:39:48 PM

Yep (didn't know it also azpplied to single slashes).

Someone1981 Since: Oct, 2022
#59: Jul 4th 2023 at 11:39:46 PM

The idea to "Disable launch button for anyone but mods and authors" needs a mechanism to handle adopted TLP proposals. Many tropes are started, abandoned, and ultimately adopted by someone else and launched by this later user. Of the last 30 launched tropes, 7 were adopted (roughly 1 in 4).

Edited by Someone1981 on Jul 4th 2023 at 9:55:14 PM

MorganWick (Elder Troper)
#60: Jul 5th 2023 at 12:40:39 AM

That was discussed in the thread about that proposal.

Someone1981 Since: Oct, 2022
#61: Jul 5th 2023 at 2:56:31 AM

  1. Implement a version of the proposal in said thread.
  2. Wait 2-3 weeks to ensure it works reasonably well.
  3. If any significant bug is found in the implementation of that thread, the timer should restart after the fix to that bug goes live.
  4. If the feature works okay, only then should this limit on launching be implemented on site.

MurlocAggroB from the second-most ridiculous province of Canada Since: May, 2015
#62: Jul 5th 2023 at 7:40:11 AM

This won't come up very often, but mods should be able to delete or at least thump comments on drafts. Right now if somebody is spamming ads or being excessively rude, the best they can do is edit the comment to say something else.

kory Admin from a universe without doors (The New Guy) Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Admin
#63: Jul 5th 2023 at 7:43:35 AM

someone1981,

If you look at the list, mods and authors will have the ability to transfer ownership of drafts to other tropers. So the new owner will become the one able to launch.

Also, all testing will be done before it goes live. Nothing is pushed live without rigorous testing on the dev server. The goal is no bugs before anything goes live. Mistakes happen but we try to avoid that.

murlocaggrob,

Added to the list.

Edited by kory on Jul 5th 2023 at 7:49:19 AM

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Someone1981 Since: Oct, 2022
#64: Jul 5th 2023 at 7:49:16 AM

Two other features I would like:

  1. The "Folders Open" setting should include the TLP (yes, I do have that setting turned on)
  2. A setting should exist to auto-open the entire TLP proposal as opposed to needing to push the "Continue reading" button each time.

Edited by Someone1981 on Jul 5th 2023 at 5:51:36 PM

BKelly95 Since: Jan, 2001
#65: Jul 5th 2023 at 8:15:03 AM

I remember that before the last time TLP was updated, the listing on the main page included the time the draft was last updated. Is it possible to bring that back? It made it easier to know the last place you left off.

kory Admin from a universe without doors (The New Guy) Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Admin
#66: Jul 5th 2023 at 8:53:55 AM

bkelly95,

Oh thats a good idea, weird it was removed. Added to the list!

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Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Hi
#67: Jul 5th 2023 at 9:45:46 AM

A setting should exist to auto-open the entire TLP proposal as opposed to needing to push the "Continue reading" button each time.

Honestly, I think this should be the default appearance of a draft.

TonyG (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#68: Jul 5th 2023 at 10:42:27 AM

While we're at it, we should fix the way the links appear on TLP. Right now, all the links appear blue, making it hard to find out if they exist or are disambiguated. Red links used to be visible once upon a time.

kory Admin from a universe without doors (The New Guy) Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Admin
#69: Jul 5th 2023 at 11:34:32 AM

All links appear blue in the comments or also in the draft itself?

Willbyr,

Do you think i should just remove the 'continue reading' entirely?

Edited by kory on Jul 5th 2023 at 11:35:49 AM

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Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#70: Jul 5th 2023 at 11:45:54 AM

Mmmaybe. The wiki pages don't have it, so I don't think TLP should. If the size bothers people, it's a sign to ask the sponsor to folderize examples and be more concise with the description.

TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#71: Jul 5th 2023 at 11:56:28 AM

[up][up] in the comments, not the draft itself.

Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Hi
#72: Jul 5th 2023 at 12:08:03 PM

Willbyr, Do you think i should just remove the 'continue reading' entirely?

I think so. It's an annoyance to have to click it to see the entire proposal, and [up][up] makes some good points.

kory Admin from a universe without doors (The New Guy) Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Admin
#73: Jul 5th 2023 at 12:38:09 PM

Okay added to the OP list to remove "continue reading" button.

Edited by kory on Jul 5th 2023 at 12:38:15 PM

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MyFinalEdits Officially intimidated from Parts Unknown (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Officially intimidated
#74: Jul 5th 2023 at 1:12:21 PM

Greetings. smile

I know the wishlist is quite large already by now, so I'm ashamed to bring this up. However, I would like to ask if there's a way to fix a certain bug that is affecting the headline quotes of certain drafts.

I'm currently sponsoring (after prior adoption) this draft; originally, the quote at the top cited the speech of two characters who are having a conversation in a video game's cutscene, which would normally require using two backslashes at the end of the first character's line to seggregate the text and separate the respective dialogue lines of the two characters. However, in this case it didn't work, as the lines would be awkwardly lumped together or, worse, have one or even both backslashes disappear (either after the edit is saved or when the next edit somehow deletes it/them without notice), thus making the second character's speech no longer appear as part of the quote's format (but rather as regular text). For now I resolved to eliminate the first character's line and then cite the full speech of the second to preserve the context, but I thought this would be worth an examination.

Also of note is that this bug isn't recent, because it also happened when I was sponsoring Platform-Activated Ability last year (and l also posted about it back then in the comments section; in that case my only option was to replace the affected quote altogether).

The good news is that the quotes put in the examples are unaffected by this.

Edited by MyFinalEdits on Jul 5th 2023 at 4:14:13 AM

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WarJay77 Discarded and Feeling Blue (Troper Knight)
Discarded and Feeling Blue
#75: Jul 5th 2023 at 1:18:48 PM

Kory, you may want to pin the first post; a lot of ideas have been brought up repeatedly.

Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness

18th Aug '23 7:38:01 PM

Crown Description:

The TLP is getting the ability to launch other pages besides tropes so we want the name to be more generalized. Please do not add new options to the crowner.

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