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Hello everyone!

While the tasks I've completed so far go through the review process, my next project I'll be working on is improving the Trope Launch Pad as much as possible.

Below is a list of the current ideas for changes and improvements and wanted to ask the community if I'm missing anything important or if you have suggestions or questions about things currently on the list please let me know! grin

     TLP Improvements to come 
MAIN UPDATES:
  • Disable hats/bombs & comments on discarded drafts
  • TLP History needs fixing: Bug
  • Auto-crosswick when page is launched.
  • Three day wait period before any hats or bombs can be added.
  • Last edited time visible on main listing page.
  • Send notifications to authors of drafts whenever there's a comment or change.
  • New TLP header by Willbyr
  • Expected launch time input field
  • add ability to holler TLP comments
  • Tag system. (“Needs better title”, “needs better description”, “needs examples” etc)
  • Disable launch button if any tags present
  • Add username of who launched a page under Page Info in the sidebar.
  • Show last 5 newest tropes launched on home page
  • show red links in comments. All links showing blue. (Add Customizer() function to comments)
  • increase draft description box size
  • edit locks to prevent duplicates and conflicts.
  • ^Pop up when clicking launch a trope draft.
  • Mods able to remove hats & bombs.
  • Bookmark button when viewing individual TLP drafts
  • Rename "YKTTW Archive" to "Trope Launch Pad Archive" on discussion pages
  • Fix edit time glitch ("last edited by" goes based on last comment and not last edit)
  • Status or special notes field: Wish
  • Fix TLP search to first use titles then descriptions. Wish, Bug
  • Mods and Authors will be able to set drafts to “up for grabs” which will display on the main page
  • Be able to transfer ownership to someone else: Thread
  • Bombs need a reason and then also display those reasons below the trope. Wish, Wish
  • Alter pop up message when clicking bomb: Wish
  • Show that you’ve hatted or bombed a draft. Wish
  • Be unable to hat your own TLP. Wish
  • Change “Launch a New Trope” button text to “Create Trope Draft For Review” or “Create New Trope Draft”.
  • Remove your hat or bomb on a TLP draft without switching to the other. Wish
  • Disable launch button for anyone but mods and authors
  • Change “add hat” to “Launch Ready!” and “discard” to “Not Ready” or “Don’t Launch” and Hat icon changed to Rocket.
  • Laconic field, as well as title and description, will be mandatory for new drafts submissions. Wish
  • Auto launch laconic page Wish
  • Be able to launch other page types via the TLP
  • TLP History added to drop-down.
  • Multiple sections and/or filters for page types
  • make it so that leaving a comment on a draft does not reset the counter on "last edited by" Bug, Bug
  • idea Your next great idea! idea

LOW PRIORITY:

  • Search function for discards Wish
  • 20+ blank pages at end of pagination
  • main/tropelaunchpad redirect to TLP
  • “folders open” setting not working for TLP
  • link to created page on draft when it’s launched
  • TLP history of bombs/hats put in order
  • Bombs on night vision too dark red. Wish
  • Fix backslash issue in TLP drafts. (Every time you save a draft with backslashes, the number of backslashes gets cut in half, rounded down.)
  • Mods able to Thump / delete comments.
     TLP related changes awaiting review 
  • Adds Preview functionality & image upload button to drafts and comments (plus emoji support/bar).

    Current Projects In Development: 

CURRENT PROGRESS:(needs design work) https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/screen_shot_2023_08_10_at_25434_pm.png

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/screen_shot_2023_08_10_at_25623_pm.png

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/screen_shot_2023_08_04_at_124351_pm.png

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/screen_shot_2023_08_10_at_125954_pm.png

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/screen_shot_2023_08_16_at_105857_am.png

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/screen_shot_2023_08_16_at_105823_am.png

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/screen_shot_2023_08_16_at_102647_am.png

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/screen_shot_2023_08_18_at_14819_pm.png

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/screen_shot_2023_08_18_at_14926_pm.png

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/screen_shot_2023_08_18_at_25515_pm.png

Edited by kory on Dec 21st 2023 at 11:52:29 AM

ANonagon9 (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
#501: Aug 31st 2023 at 3:09:45 AM

Wow, that's really exciting! Can't wait to see how this develops grin

Noaqiyeum Trans Siberian Anarchestra (it/they) from the gentle and welcoming dark (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
Trans Siberian Anarchestra (it/they)
#502: Aug 31st 2023 at 2:31:06 PM

I'm astonished that autowicking might be that easy, and looking forward to see how it works!

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kory Admin from a universe without doors (The New Guy) Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Admin
#503: Aug 31st 2023 at 2:32:46 PM

Well "easy" is relative to who's doing it i guess. It seemed complicated to me but the senior engineer was like "what? oh thats eassyyy. tell them we can do it". [lol]

Edited by kory on Aug 31st 2023 at 2:33:24 AM

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Unicorndance Logic Girl from Thames, N.Z. Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Logic Girl
#504: Sep 7th 2023 at 1:08:21 AM

So, and I hope I don't sound like an impatient patron at a restaurant, but when can we expect the changes to go live? I'm asking, because I want to have a time that I can look forward to, so I don't keep getting disappointed that it hasn't happened yet.

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alnair20aug93 🍊orange fursona🧡 from Furrypines (Long Runner) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
🍊orange fursona🧡
#505: Sep 7th 2023 at 1:16:04 AM

Ditto. Can't wait for the improvements.

Edited by alnair20aug93 on Sep 7th 2023 at 4:16:35 PM

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Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Hi
#506: Sep 7th 2023 at 7:04:53 AM

Per Kory's last post in the "what's changed" thread, I think this has jumped ahead of the TLP fixes in the queue, but they should still be coming fairly soon.

kory Admin from a universe without doors (The New Guy) Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Admin
#507: Sep 7th 2023 at 8:43:01 AM

New security features > engineer task > TLP improvements. Since things keep getting pushed back I won’t give an exact timeline until I actually know for sure. High probability of at least happening this month though.

Edited by kory on Sep 7th 2023 at 8:43:16 AM

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WarJay77 Discarded and Feeling Blue (Troper Knight)
Discarded and Feeling Blue
#508: Nov 17th 2023 at 12:30:03 PM

This is relatively minor, but I don't see it in the pinned post. Is there any plan to change the hatting pop-up in addition to the bomb one? The current pop-up is very outdated, specifically in how it claims 3 examples is enough to launch (when that's just the minimum you should start with).

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kory Admin from a universe without doors (The New Guy) Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Admin
#509: Nov 17th 2023 at 12:31:50 PM

Ya you can see it in one of the pictures in the OP. This was approved by a few moderators.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/screen_shot_2023_08_16_at_105857_am.png

Edited by kory on Nov 17th 2023 at 12:32:15 PM

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WarJay77 Discarded and Feeling Blue (Troper Knight)
Discarded and Feeling Blue
#510: Nov 17th 2023 at 12:32:45 PM

Ah, must've missed that somehow (I didn't look at the pictures so that's probably why). [tup]

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Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#511: Nov 17th 2023 at 12:42:36 PM

It has occurred to me that if there's an ability to ping in TLP (probably worth copying formatting tips to TLP actually), and the bomb button lists people who've voted and reasonings, it makes it easy for sponsors to notify specific people for followup feedback after making improvements.

It was probably not specifically mentioned, but it feels like would be the effect of new changes combined.

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GoldenDarkness Since: Jan, 2001
#512: Dec 4th 2023 at 12:55:15 PM

Is it too late to make suggestions?

I've been thinking that when launching work pages, there should be a tool to properly generate the correct WikiWord from a title (barring a name with another work), and that launching a work will allow auto-submitting a custom title.

This is more for trying to mitigate further occurrences of this custom title bug where only a specific capitalization of a WikiWord will display the custom title and it is impossible to reassign to a different capitalization.

Basically, if this tool will be used to launch a work page, someone should be able to just input the title as written without worry about how to capitalize the WikiWord.

Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#513: Dec 5th 2023 at 6:58:20 AM

[up] Doesn't TLP allow you to select the custom title on launch already?

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GoldenDarkness Since: Jan, 2001
#514: Dec 5th 2023 at 7:41:22 AM

According to the TLP Guidelines, Custom titling is still a separate process.

Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#515: Dec 5th 2023 at 7:55:45 AM

Well, it shouldn't be even for tropes and I wonder if it was requested before.

Edited by Amonimus on Dec 5th 2023 at 6:56:34 PM

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MyFinalEdits Officially intimidated from Parts Unknown (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Officially intimidated
#516: Dec 5th 2023 at 3:54:47 PM

I can tell from experience that recently-launched trope pages, as well as work paged made as free action, need a request for customization.

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jandn2014 Very Spooky from somewhere in Connecticut Since: Aug, 2017 Relationship Status: Hiding
Very Spooky
#517: Dec 14th 2023 at 5:22:51 PM

Not sure if this has been proposed before, but I’ve been thinking: should hats and bombs be locked for a period of time (I’d say 24 hours) after a draft is created? One of the most recurring issues I’ve seen occur in the TLP is inexperienced troper creates sloppy draft -> draft quickly gathers many bombs -> draft has to be nuked. Having a brief moratorium for all drafts initially might counteract impulse/group bombing.

back lol
WarJay77 Discarded and Feeling Blue (Troper Knight)
Discarded and Feeling Blue
#518: Dec 14th 2023 at 5:23:21 PM

That's actually coming. They'll be locked for three days.

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kory Admin from a universe without doors (The New Guy) Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Admin
#519: Dec 14th 2023 at 5:23:46 PM

Yes that’s one of the first thing I added. 3 day wait period for bombs and hats. Check the OP for a list of all suggested changes.

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jandn2014 Very Spooky from somewhere in Connecticut Since: Aug, 2017 Relationship Status: Hiding
Very Spooky
#520: Dec 14th 2023 at 5:38:15 PM

Alright, sounds good.

back lol
Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#521: Dec 19th 2023 at 12:21:27 PM

Don't see it on the list. Remind me if "enough tropes think this can be nuked" (also the old TLP name) despite drafts having no bombs yet was addressed.


https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/screenshot_15_7.png


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WarJay77 Discarded and Feeling Blue (Troper Knight)
Discarded and Feeling Blue
#522: Dec 19th 2023 at 12:23:31 PM

That's just there for the sponsor, so that early discards can happen if necessary. (Surprised it's still not available for engineers yet tho)

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kory Admin from a universe without doors (The New Guy) Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Admin
#523: Dec 19th 2023 at 12:24:14 PM

Ah gotcha. I'll make sure thats fixed with the other updates. [tup]

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Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#524: Dec 19th 2023 at 12:25:58 PM

Tbh, the Discard option should only be available to sponsors or mods anyway. While not common, rogue nuking is just as rude as rogue launching. If there's an old draft that has a lot of bombs, removing it warrants a discussion beforehand.

Edited by Amonimus on Dec 19th 2023 at 11:26:43 PM

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WarJay77 Discarded and Feeling Blue (Troper Knight)
Discarded and Feeling Blue
#525: Dec 19th 2023 at 12:27:45 PM

I disagree. While rogue-discarding is definitely rude, the ability for anybody to nuke a draft that needs it is extremely valuable for clearing out the backlog without bugging mods or forcing people to adopt things first. Rogue-discarding is more of a community problem since people have no chill around drafts they dislike.

And we already have means to discuss these things. Making a mod do the work would only slow progress down even more.

Edited by WarJay77 on Dec 19th 2023 at 3:28:31 PM

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18th Aug '23 7:38:01 PM

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The TLP is getting the ability to launch other pages besides tropes so we want the name to be more generalized. Please do not add new options to the crowner.

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