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Occasionally, a wick will appear on a page's "Related to" subpage, but the page in question doesn't actually contain the link listed. In fact, sometimes nonexistent pages will appear to have this nonexistent link. This is called a "ghost wick": it is a ghost haunting pages past. There are a couple of ways these wicks could've surfaced, which are related to administrative/mod deletions and reversions. The details aren't important.

Elimination of a ghost wick depends on where the wick is occuring.

On an existing page:

  • If the page is a redirect, make a null edit. It might force earlier changes to the page to register. Please leave an edit reason so others know what's going on. If that doesn't work...
  • If the page has content but no internal links at all, create one. Wicks only update if there's at least one wick on the page, so adding one will make the ghost wick disappear. If you feel there's nowhere to place an appropriate link, add a link arbitrarily (such as to the page itself), save the edit, and delete it after. Please leave an edit reason so others know what's going on.
  • If the page is ghost-indexing (creating index bars on other pages even though it's not an index), do a null edit to its page type (under Page Info; in the sidebar on desktop, bottom of the page on mobile). If it's a redirect, you'll first have to break the redirect so you can access the page type in the first place. After you're done, restore the redirect.

On a nonexistent page:

Requesting removal of ghost wicks from ghost pages is the purpose of this thread.
  • Post the page where the ghost wick is supposed to exist.
  • Alternatively, if the page is not in the Main namespace, you can recreate the page with "Ghost Wick" and a wick to the page, then add it to the Cut List where a moderator will delete it.note 

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Edited by Twiddler on Jul 8th 2023 at 1:55:52 AM

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#226: Sep 9th 2023 at 1:01:20 AM

They should be gone, now.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#227: Sep 23rd 2023 at 3:15:20 PM

Chronopia and Stargirl are making ghost wicks to TheMessiah.

Edited by Malady on Sep 23rd 2023 at 3:15:44 AM

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#229: Sep 24th 2023 at 8:45:19 AM

The Gamer is making a ghost wick to LevelUp.

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Hello83433 (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
AudioSpeaks2 He/Him (Greenhorn) Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
He/Him
#234: Oct 24th 2023 at 7:42:14 AM

OK, so this isn't in Main/ but it is a locked page so...

NoRealLife.Tropes A To C is creating a ghost wick. I suggest maybe, create the page, change the page type and turn off "indexing", and then cut. To stop it appearing at the bottom of tropes.

Art Museum Curator and frequent helper of the Web Original deprecation project
AudioSpeaks2 He/Him (Greenhorn) Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
He/Him
#235: Oct 31st 2023 at 2:48:15 PM

Stuck In The Middle is making a ghost wick to Cool Loser (now renamed and redefined to Unconvincingly Unpopular Character).

Gyerfry is also making a ghost wick to Cool Loser.

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costanton11 Since: Mar, 2016
#236: Nov 2nd 2023 at 6:26:21 AM

Reposting as it still seems to be present:

Andersen Monogatari is making a ghost wick to Cinderella.

Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
ClancyGardener life is a state of mind from 53 miles west of Venus Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
#238: Nov 13th 2023 at 10:24:26 AM

I'm not sure if this pertains to this thread, but the related page for the VideoGame.Gotham Knights 2022 redirect VideoGame.Gotham Knights shows the page Laconic.Gotham Knights, which doesn't exist. This is a ghost wick, right?

Also, the page YMMV.The Twilight Zone S 2 E 54 The Odyssey Of Flight 33 is a subpage of Recap.The Twilight Zone S 2 E 54 The Odyssey Of Flight 33, which now redirects to Recap.The Twilight Zone 1959 S 2 E 18 The Odyssey Of Flight 33, and Trivia.The Twilight Zone S 3 E 91 Little Girl Lost is a subpage of Recap.The Twilight Zone S 3 E 91 Little Girl Lost, which now redirects to The Twilight Zone (1959) S3E26: "Little Girl Lost".

Edited by ClancyGardener on Nov 13th 2023 at 10:55:31 AM

Trimming the hedges, one trope at a time.
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#239: Nov 16th 2023 at 10:34:20 PM

Did Laconic.Gotham Knights, but I have no idea what the matter of these redirects is.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
ClancyGardener life is a state of mind from 53 miles west of Venus Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
#240: Nov 16th 2023 at 10:58:21 PM

[up] The Twilight Zone Recap pages were moved, so now there's Trivia/YMMV/Fridge etc. subpages to the old pages that don't technically exist anymore except as redirects. I've been recreating those subpages for the new Recap pages, which means there's now YMMV pages both for The Twilight Zone S 2 E 54 The Odyssey Of Flight 33 (the old page, now a redirect) and The Twilight Zone (1959) S2E18: "The Odyssey of Flight 33" (the new page). That's why I was putting those pages on the Cut List.

Are they not ghost wicks since the subpages themselves still exist, even if the main Recap page for them doesn't?

Trimming the hedges, one trope at a time.
Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#241: Nov 17th 2023 at 12:01:18 AM

Are they not ghost wicks since the subpages themselves still exist

Correct.

The header of this thread contains an explanation of what ghost wicks are, and which ones are in the scope of this thread.

ClancyGardener life is a state of mind from 53 miles west of Venus Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
#242: Nov 17th 2023 at 10:58:14 AM

Then I was correct in putting such pages on the Cut List instead?

Trimming the hedges, one trope at a time.
AudioSpeaks2 He/Him (Greenhorn) Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
He/Him
#243: Nov 27th 2023 at 7:03:17 PM

Dead At 21 Is making a ghost wick to Main.Dangerous Sixteenth Birthday

Edited by AudioSpeaks2 on Nov 27th 2023 at 11:03:27 PM

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ABE.Crudele Your Local Editor from Somewhere (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: A gay little love melody
Your Local Editor
#244: Dec 3rd 2023 at 7:00:56 PM

Oh dear. i didn't realize that my (new) username will be causing trouble to everyone here. Is there anything i do?

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#245: Dec 3rd 2023 at 10:47:42 PM

The only way is to make a new account. For that you need to tell us which one, however.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#246: Dec 9th 2023 at 11:05:01 AM

[up][up][up]I exorcised it.

Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
Kyogre70 Since: Jul, 2014
#247: Dec 10th 2023 at 11:45:30 AM

Fridge/Victoria and The Sandman are both making ghost wicks to Incredibly Lame Pun.

Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#248: Dec 10th 2023 at 2:13:18 PM

Only the Victoria might be Locked. But it's not. Doing them manually.

Do we need to resort info order in the banner to state thread purpose first (and in bold?)

Edited by Malady on Dec 10th 2023 at 2:17:36 AM

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Kyogre70 Since: Jul, 2014
#249: Dec 10th 2023 at 4:07:35 PM

They've been edited, but they're still being linked to. They either need to be cut or add at least one link to remove the ghost link. Do I need to request them to be cut? Because we're usually not supposed to cut pages ourselves.

Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#250: Dec 10th 2023 at 5:36:35 PM

They should be in the Cut List now. We can cut them for this reason.

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