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#126: Mar 13th 2024 at 1:42:40 AM

Hmm, maybe certain region-specific namespaces (Anime/, Manga/, Manhua/, Manhwa/) could be exempted from that?

Or are there not always Japanese anime and manga, Chinese manhua, and Korean manhwa? (EDIT: Hm, there's also OEL Manga... but the namespaces in that list are varied.)

There are some manga, manhua, and manhwa in Webcomic/ though.

Maybe just mentioning nationality would be sufficient in some cases? For example, Mechamato is a Malaysian show, so it's originally in Malay. In other cases where nationality doesn't equal the language a work (originally) uses, that could be pointed out (Molchat Doma is from Belarus, but all their lyrics are in Russian, which is also an official language there aside from Belarusian.)

Edited by BlackFaithStar on Mar 13th 2024 at 4:58:58 PM

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#127: Mar 13th 2024 at 1:50:51 AM

Manga/ is supposed to be a region-specific namespace, so it makes sense for it to be excluded alongside the others.

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#128: Mar 13th 2024 at 2:09:42 AM

[up][up]I would agree with this. Always mention nationality, which implies language; if it differs, point it out.

So it would go:
Anatomy of A Fall is a 2023 French courtroom drama in French and English...
The Zone of Interest is a 2023 German-language British drama...

"The Teacher's Lounge is a 2023 German German-language drama", OTOH, feels redundant.

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#129: Mar 13th 2024 at 2:44:05 AM

[up] True. But distinguishing between an Austrian, Swiss or German work in the German language is useful.

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#130: Mar 13th 2024 at 2:56:26 AM

Yes, it should always be mentioned if the work is German, Austrian, or Swiss; but in the first two cases adding "German-language" is unnecessary since that's the default implication (unless the film indeed isn't in German), whereas with a Swiss film it should be clarified as it's ambigious otherwise.

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#131: Mar 13th 2024 at 8:48:44 AM

Yeah, and with The Embodiment of Sins I mentioned that the work is available from the mangaka (who is based in Malaysia according to their Pixiv profile) in both English and Japanese.

Basically I don't think we need a rule here: tropers' best judgement is probably sufficient.

Edited by StarSword on Mar 13th 2024 at 11:49:03 AM

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#132: Mar 13th 2024 at 8:01:24 PM

NVM as the question would be more appropriate for a later time

Edited by minseok42 on Mar 13th 2024 at 8:07:30 AM

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#133: Mar 19th 2024 at 1:23:31 AM

Called most of the crowner items, as it's been a week.

The remaining one is sitting one vote away from the 2:1 consensus line, so giving it another 48 hours, as usual.

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#134: Mar 19th 2024 at 4:02:55 AM

[up]Just so we're clear - that last one doesn't apply to anime and manga pages, correct?

(EDIT: Apologies if this has been answered already - I don't exactly have the biggest attention span.)

Edited by JHD0919 on Mar 19th 2024 at 7:08:02 AM

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#135: Mar 19th 2024 at 4:13:13 AM

I think we can add some sort of "in some cases this will already be clear from the namespace" caveat.

The intention is that the original language should be obvious to the reader. If other elements of the page already confirm it, I don't think we gain anything by duplicating.

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#137: Mar 19th 2024 at 6:45:58 AM

[up][up]Yeah that sounds fine [tup]

Edited by BlackFaithStar on Mar 19th 2024 at 9:46:07 PM

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#138: Mar 21st 2024 at 12:46:37 PM

Calling the final Crowner item - it's had two extra days and it's still 2.17 to 1, so that's a stable consensus.

Now policy's confirmed we'll polish the wording over on the Administrivia thread, the update the page.

Edited by Mrph1 on Mar 21st 2024 at 7:47:12 PM

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#140: Mar 21st 2024 at 1:29:52 PM

[up] That something is reporting the first troper.

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#141: Mar 21st 2024 at 1:41:36 PM
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#142: Mar 21st 2024 at 3:19:50 PM
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#143: Mar 21st 2024 at 3:42:50 PM

Issues like that need to be reported and dealt with via other channels, not discussed on the forums.

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