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Since we have a thread discussing the video game industry, I thought it would be appropriate to have a thread discussing the practices and going ons of the film and tv industries. Especially in light of recent news surrounding the sets of Batwoman and Rust.

This will not be about films and tv shows but rather about the practices and behind-the-scenes news affecting the industries.

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#2901: Mar 15th 2024 at 1:48:15 AM

Ngl, going to the theater is a massive minus for me in itself, so it’d have to be a movie I’m truly excited for to get me out the door. I am sure I am not alone in that.

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#2902: Mar 15th 2024 at 4:05:07 AM

[up][up] What do you mean by a cleanse?

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#2903: Mar 15th 2024 at 5:09:08 AM

"I am still struggling with the idea that Dreamworks being the juvenile fiction book adapter."

They've been that for ages. Shrek, How to Train Your Dragon, Home, the Bad Guys, Captain Underpants, Orion and the Dark, the Boss Baby, they've done it a bunch. They're usually not particularly accurate adaptations, but the Wild Robot is the most complicated story they've adapted, so it might be a lot more accurate?

Not Three Laws compliant.
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#2904: Mar 15th 2024 at 5:53:58 AM

I recall that the guy behind the DW layoffs apparently had a hand in setting up one of the outside vendors the studio will be using so the whole thing is very scummy.

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#2905: Mar 15th 2024 at 6:03:29 AM

[up][up][up] A cleanse as in something that investigates current Hollywood Accounting for those that are willing to put too many people at risk. I.e. the layoffs that have happened a lot being in the California area or the expensive parts of Canada. I don't want tens of thousands of people to be unable to afford where they live because of the glut of layoffs.

[up][up] I know they have been unfaithful adapters for a long time. But I don't want whatever they adapt for film to end up forgotten or looked at too differently. If they want to adapt a book, adapt a book. If they want to tell an original story, tell an original story. If they want to tell a story based on book, you get the idea.

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Oh, bother.
#2906: Mar 15th 2024 at 7:15:55 AM

That' not what a "cleanse" is associated with in modern times. Nowadays it refers to "detox" woo bullshit. It's an incredibly unhealthy and dangerous practice.

As for whether an adaptation is faithful or not...honestly I don't care as long as the adaptation is actually good. The Harry Potter movies weren't always 100% faithful to the books, and I think that was a good thing. Stanley Kubrick's The Shining was completely different from Stephen King's original book, and I think it was better for it. It was certainly better than the miniseries that was more faithful to the book. The Boys tv series is mostly considered an improvement over the original comic. The recent Dune movies have been well received though they too made changes from the original books. And so on.

A lot of times, a change in medium and the times means changes from the source material are needed.

Edited by M84 on Mar 15th 2024 at 10:24:15 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
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#2907: Mar 15th 2024 at 7:32:12 AM

What I'm really mad is because the reason behind the layoffs of Dream Works. Universal is probably doing this so they don't have to deal with the union and their next animators strike, meaning that they'll release their films without changing the release date or facing the consequences of the strike (not even Illumination, since they're a french studio and they don't belong to the Animation Guild).

Edited by Starlink64 on Mar 15th 2024 at 10:34:01 AM

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#2908: Mar 15th 2024 at 8:48:17 AM

We should all be grateful that Elio got pushed back a year so it could have extra time… and that Spider Verse 3 got removed from the calendar.

New article from Hollywood Reporter: Industry Pros are worrying that digital files used for film and tv production and streaming are gonna be unusable one day.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/digital-preservation-film-tv-shows-archives-1235851957/

Edited by BigBadShadow25 on Mar 15th 2024 at 11:54:28 AM

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#2909: Mar 15th 2024 at 9:18:52 AM

yeah,formats are constantly changing and sometimes no longer supported,take flash for instance,there was a time when everyone used it,that stopped once it became securty risk

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#2910: Mar 15th 2024 at 9:41:14 AM

Yeah and apparently these files can DECAY.

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#2911: Mar 15th 2024 at 10:56:28 AM

Data rot is a thing after all.

Such is the nature of entropy.

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#2912: Mar 16th 2024 at 9:38:58 AM

Posting a Cartoon Brew Article: DreamWorks is reaffirming that it will be cutting back its workforce - less through layoffs, more through not renewing contracts. Moral is not good…

https://www.cartoonbrew.com/business/dreamworks-animation-to-significantly-cut-staff-in-coming-months-exclusive-239058.html

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#2913: Mar 17th 2024 at 9:04:17 AM

This feels like a repeat of the layoffs from 2014 but exponentially worse. Maybe the Dreamworks we see now will be radically different than the one in even a few years.

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#2914: Mar 21st 2024 at 8:28:55 AM

Hollywood Reporter news: an advisory firm is suggesting Disney shareholders vote to add Peltz to the board.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/disney-proxy-fight-iss-backs-peltz-1235857258/

Deadline says that Disney has rebutted the firm’s suggestion: https://deadline.com/2024/03/disney-board-fight-response-1235864490/

Edited by BigBadShadow25 on Mar 21st 2024 at 11:41:38 AM

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#2915: Mar 21st 2024 at 8:42:18 AM

We told you already, this "fight" is near-meaningless because shareholder activism is never backed up.

Edited by LoneCourier0 on Mar 21st 2024 at 4:43:13 PM

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#2916: Mar 21st 2024 at 8:43:12 AM

[up]I just thought it would be a good idea to keep an eye on it.

At any rate, Iger seems to be taking it very seriously.

Okay, new topic. The Wrap is once more claiming that Gen Z is more interested in livestreams than movies and tv. I don’t think it’s an accurate sample, though.

https://www.thewrap.com/gen-z-viewing-habits-streaming-social-media/

Edited by BigBadShadow25 on Mar 21st 2024 at 12:08:01 PM

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#2917: Mar 21st 2024 at 10:16:57 AM

Responding to this article from a few posts up.

New article from Hollywood Reporter: Industry Pros are worrying that digital files used for film and tv production and streaming are gonna be unusable one day. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/digital-preservation-film-tv-shows-archives-1235851957/

This last paragraph is particularly amusing. The article starts with the most negative and worried preservationists, then proceeds to the more optimistic ones. It ends suggesting that new technology will assist, especially the potential for AI to help locate specific data. It seems a bit out of place, given that the article focuses more on the problems of storage, not retrieval.note 

Experts hope that evolving tech will help more than hinder, often pointing to the notion that artificial intelligence may soon aid in rediscovery. “That would be a game-changer,” says Arthur Forney, head of postproduction for Wolf Entertainment... [Retrieving footage] can be laborious, especially if it’s from an outtake. He says, “This might make it quicker to find that needle in a haystack.”

It is worth considering the use of AI to assist with digital storage though. If it can self-repair atrophying data, or perform high-fidelity lossless conversion between formats, that would go a long way to extending the lifespan of some formats.

It's fascinating that the article doesn't even approach the idea of physical storage for long-term archival purposes. It comes with it's own benefits and risks, of course, but are we so far beyond that it's not worth considering?

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#2918: Mar 21st 2024 at 10:59:24 AM

[up] I don't know that much on technological preservations. But I would think that if AI could find a way to preserve the masters of old film or television, that would be handy. My go to thought is the Hanna-Barbera Library with the many hours of television content that could easy fill a streaming service. Because who knows how much still exists and can be found, restored, and used for current tech?

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#2919: Mar 21st 2024 at 11:22:15 AM

One thing that is in WB's favour is that they, like Disney, never throw anything in their archives out. The Warner Archive is legendary in Hollywood and they're one of the most reliable groups in terms of being able to restore and remaster stuff.

The problem is that if there's no obvious return from something they're being asked to do, they won't do it.

Not Three Laws compliant.
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#2920: Mar 21st 2024 at 11:24:28 AM

If only we could be sure Coyote Vs Acme was in their archive…

I wonder if the shows and movies already written off are in there?

Edited by BigBadShadow25 on Mar 21st 2024 at 2:36:38 PM

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#2921: Mar 22nd 2024 at 10:33:37 AM

Bumping: Bloomberg says the CEO of OpenAI is trying to court Hollywood artists through filmmakers and agencies.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-03-22/openai-courts-hollywood-in-meetings-with-film-studios-directors

Variety also has an article on what happens if Paramount is sold - in one piece or in pieces.

https://variety.com/2024/biz/news/what-happens-if-paramount-sold-in-pieces-1235948752/

Apparently, according to this tweet, one of Peltz and Perlmutter’s goals with the board thing is to get Feige fired from Marvel.

https://x.com/rochardscott/status/1772285564164686143?s=46&t=7YT7yMPCw2VMMwQUxWj5_A

Edited by BigBadShadow25 on Mar 25th 2024 at 11:47:44 AM

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#2922: Mar 29th 2024 at 12:16:24 AM

Disney's War With Ron DeSantis Might Finally Be Winding Down.

What began as De Santis’ retaliation for Disney standing against the state’s “Don’t Say Gay” law, which bans talk of sexual orientation and gender identity in elementary schools, led to a court battle about whether the state was imposing on the company’s First Amendment rights by stripping Disney Parks’ long-standing municipal development rights over its land. Essentially, De Santis sanctioned state figures to act as roadblocks for future development in case Disney continued to step out of line.

After extensive back and forth there’s now a resolution. The AP reports that De Santis’ allies and Disney “reached a settlement agreement Wednesday in a state court fight over how Walt Disney World is developed in the future following the takeover of the theme park resort’s government by the Florida governor.”

This means that De Santis’ appointees are not beholden to the last-minute adjustments to the plan that Disney slid in place just before the takeover. It also means that the development agreement and restrictive covenants that were installed after the takeover are not valid either. Both parties have now agreed that a comprehensive plan dating back to 2020—i.e., before this whole conflict began—will be used as a template until the De Santis-backed board and Disney come to a new development agreement.

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#2923: Mar 29th 2024 at 1:31:56 AM

So, I have a question for you guys: if there is controversy surrounding a movie that you really wanted to watch, do you still watch said movie or do you not watch said movie, even though you really wanted to?

I love animation, TV, movies, YOU NAME IT!
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#2924: Mar 29th 2024 at 1:38:20 AM

This is kind of off-topic. This thread is for discussion of film and tv industries, not individual movies or shows.

Edited by M84 on Mar 29th 2024 at 4:38:58 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
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#2925: Mar 29th 2024 at 1:41:08 AM

Where do we discuss topics like that?

I love animation, TV, movies, YOU NAME IT!

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