There are more or less two hundred gangs in Haiti, and they effectively control the country, working in every illegal activity imaginable, including protection rackets, kidnappings and murders
The most powerful of them is the G9 Alliance, formed by ex-police and ex-soldiers, which describes itself as a "revolutionary group." Their leader is an ex-police officer named Jimmy Chérizier
Last year, the G9 were at war with another gang named G-Pep.
The severity of the conflict led the United Nations' Security Council to authorize a Kenya-led "multinational security support mission" to Haiti.
The Supreme Court in Kenya ruled that such deployments are unconstitutional.
Haitian Prime Minister Ariel Henry traveled to Kenya and signed an agreement designed to circumvent that ruling.
G-9 and their allies responded by storming the aeroport, police stations and prisons, releasing more than 4,000 prisoners, with Jimmy Chérizier declaring that his intention is to prevent Henry from returning, and stop the U.N operation.
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I feel that situations like this, as well as what we see in South America, are what happens when you don't have a strong government, or a strong rule of law, and this why I am skeptical about any demand for dismantling the government and police or living in small autonomous communities.
Anyway, this page has more details about the gang's origins
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gang_war_in_Haiti
Edited by jawal on Mar 11th 2024 at 1:59:46 PM
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The meetings with CARICOM are now planning on a Haiti without Ariel Henry around Haitian politics. DC seems to want it too.
And Henry agreed to leave Haitian politics.
Been looking around in the news.
Among the countries that are willing to put (likely) boots on the grounds:
- Kenya
- Ecuador
- Bahamas
- Jamaica
- Antigua & Barbadua
- Italy
- Mongolia
- Senegal
- Belize
- Suriname
- Guatemala
- Peru
Edited by Ominae on Mar 12th 2024 at 6:22:21 AM
Something else to note about the gang issue is that they operate more like insurgent groups than mere criminal outfits. They have political goals, they aren't just purely profit motivated.
ok boomer
Henry's short speech that he's leaving office as PM.
G9 was aligned with the previous prime minister who got assassinated. They were not happy with the regime who replaced him. Gpep is aligned with the more recent prime Minister's party, so it's effectively a civil war between an alliance of gangs on one side, and the government with it's gangs on the other.
Expect more violence.
I wonder what the Dominican Republic thinks about all this.
Edited by Mullon on Mar 14th 2024 at 7:42:29 AM
Never trust anyone who uses "degenerate" as an insult.
IIRC, the DR sealed up most of its border with Haiti.
Not to my surprise, Chérizier ain't going to give an F on the upcoming council that would name an interim PM.
Edited by Ominae on Mar 14th 2024 at 6:17:24 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTUsVXIaI9k
Some Canadian diplomatic personnel are moved to the Dominican Republic. The ambassador, essential and security staff are still in Haiti.
Edited by Ominae on Mar 15th 2024 at 5:23:36 AM
Reading up that charter flights are heading to Haiti via Cap-Haïtien International Airport.
Right now, the only solution that I can see is a military peacekeeping force negotiating it's way in by offering to help convert the gangs into political parties in exchange for their guns. That would have to be followed by a massive public support program, including hiring most of the ex-police and military to serve in the new government. Amnesty for all but the most brutal of the criminals.
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We'll probably end up with a junta if the gangs come into power, that or a bunch of junta shooting at each other.
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Probably both.
The situation we're stuck with is like the Rwandan Genocide; everyone agrees something must be done, but no one wants to do anything. Kenya's operation won't go ahead because it's probably unconstitutional. The US political establishment has lost its appetite for direct intervention ever since Iraq. France taking on the burden might be justified given their role in starting this whole mess, but by the same token French troops marching through Port-au-Prince would go over like a lead balloon among Haitians. The Dominican Republic is already trying to get Haitians in their sovereign territory out, you really think they're gonna commit their troops to going over there?
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From what I know, the Kenyans are gonna wait once the transitional council gets to work.
JTF-2 are deployed to Haiti to protect the Canadian Embassy.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/havana-syndrome-russia-evidence-60-minutes/
Being reported that GRU Unit 29155 is the mastermind behind the Havana Syndrome events in Cuba/parts of Europe.
60 Minutes worked with The Insider and Der Spiegel on it.
Canadian troops deployed to Jamaica to assist training Carribean troops/police for a potential PKO in Haiti.
A Haitian politics specialist was asked on whether Jimmy Chérizier being in Haitian politics would be a good idea as part of potential conditions willing to lay down arms. He said no because he's not that powerful (other gangs are around) and just because he says that doesn't mean that his gang will stop shooting at other gangs or the public.
Edited by Ominae on Apr 1st 2024 at 7:43:40 AM
News that Haitian police recovered a cargo ship, but not all of the cargo was secured (Rice).
https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2024/05/16/another-us-tourist-arrested-turks-caicos-ammo/
Hearing news that American tourists are recently arrested by the Royal Turks and Caicos Island Police for "accidentally" bringing live ammo.
This isn't the first time it happened.
And some of the comments there are pretty funny.
Edited by Ominae on May 19th 2024 at 8:15:40 PM
Why do people do this?
American exceptionalism.
Bringing in ammo is illegal in Turks and Caico and another American tourist arrested that news had to be covered about it.
https://abcnews.go.com/International/turks-and-caicos-gun-laws-ammunition-charge/story?id=110437867
The plight of multiple Americans charged with bringing ammunition to Turks and Caicos has drawn attention to the islands' strict gun laws.
That framing sounds like folks aren't aware that outside of the USA firearms ownership is often frowned upon.
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They just want Henry to leave 'cause he didn't allow elections to proceed.
But let's not look at them like saints. Them gangs are butchers.