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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#52: Feb 18th 2023 at 1:16:58 PM

Gladly. I already have the box set (in English), but still.

Dutch Donald Duck magazine also seems to have stopped printing Sinterklaas stories altogether since 2015, probably because of the Zwarte Piet (Black Pete) controversy. I guess they preferred cutting him altogether rather than modernizing him.

Edited by Redmess on Feb 18th 2023 at 10:27:44 AM

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Aldo930 Professional Moldy Fig/Curmudgeon from Quahog, R.I. Since: Aug, 2013
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#53: Feb 18th 2023 at 1:21:30 PM

Surely there'd be an exception for adult collectors? Or do we not even get that anymore?

Edited by Aldo930 on Feb 18th 2023 at 1:23:55 AM

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#54: Feb 26th 2023 at 2:19:15 AM

Since that's such a pivotal part of the story, there are concerns that Life will now be virtually impossible to reprint, and accordingly become prohibitively expensive.

Hot take: it's already prohibitively expensive.

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#55: Feb 26th 2023 at 3:22:32 AM

I'm lucky I got the comics when they first came out (well, the reprints anyway, from 2005-2006)!

....I hope I still have them. D:

Edited by lalalei2001 on Feb 26th 2023 at 6:22:47 AM

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whiskers1138 Since: Oct, 2018
#56: Feb 28th 2023 at 5:23:58 PM

[up][up] You'd think such a popular book would be readily in print, but it's weird. It sells like hot cakes, goes out of print for years and the secondary market explodes, rinse and repeat.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#57: Feb 28th 2023 at 5:40:39 PM

Oh, it's much worse than that. Namely, it's not even the same books getting reprinted. Disney has a tendency to just start a new series of collected comics, sometimes just changing up the order for no good reason (hello, Fantagraphics Barks collection...).

And if you're in really bad luck, some higher up somewhere will decide shipping American collectors' books to Europe is not profitable enough and pull the plug on exports.

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#58: Jul 3rd 2023 at 1:32:35 PM

Someone asked if Darkwing Duck would be on topic in this thread, which is basically asking whether DW belongs to the Duckiverse or not.

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Antiyonder Since: Oct, 2011
#59: Jul 3rd 2023 at 1:38:22 PM

Looks like there is a thread for it already: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=14145543780A92598800

Yeah, trying to search out stuff that has been talked about and found it just now.

Duckhistoria Since: Nov, 2023
#60: Nov 24th 2023 at 9:44:49 AM

There is a lot to read, of course if it is translated into English, because Donald Duck is very represented in European comics. Besides Carl Barks and Don Rosa comics, I recommend reading comics by William Van Horn, Romano Scarpa, Guido Martina, Carpi, Giorgio Cavazzano, Vicar, as well as other Egmont and Panini comics. Certainly also the comics Paperinik (Duck Avenger), Paperinik New Adventures and Double Duck, where you have great stories, if you are a fan of superheroes and secret spies.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#61: Nov 24th 2023 at 10:10:14 AM

I can't say I ever got into Paperinik, I like Barks/Rosa Donald much better.

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Duckhistoria Since: Nov, 2023
#62: Nov 24th 2023 at 12:16:19 PM

The Barks/Rosa universes are actually separate. Barks did not devote himself to the characterization of characters in his comics as much as Don Rosa did. Don Rosa did continue certain Carl Barks comics, but he did it in his own way. I certainly love and appreciate the two of them. I respect your opinion.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#63: Nov 24th 2023 at 3:27:45 PM

I know they are, but they have so many comics, and I've read them all multiple times over the decades, so they tend to meld together a little.

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#65: Mar 22nd 2024 at 6:37:57 PM

Well, Don Rosa's probably happy now - per Disney's official Instagram, Ludwig and Matilda are married. This was always Rosa's idea for how Ludwig was related to the family, but he never got to put it to page.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#66: Mar 22nd 2024 at 6:40:36 PM

I think that's specifically the family tree of Ducktales 2017.

As a few people mentioned in the comments there, several comics characters are missing, and of course there's Scrooge having kids, rather than April & May & June being related to Daisy.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Mar 22nd 2024 at 6:41:04 AM

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Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#67: Mar 22nd 2024 at 7:45:17 PM

I mean, it can't be true for Ducktales 2017 because Ludwig in that show has multiple adult children who don't acknowledge Scrooge at all in the episode where they meet.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#68: Mar 23rd 2024 at 4:56:52 AM

Yeah, Ducktales has never been canon to the comics in particular. It really is its own thing, in both incarnations.

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Kiobi20 Since: Sep, 2016
#70: Apr 11th 2024 at 1:27:15 PM

[up] that's awesome and hilarious

TomWithoutJerry Since: Dec, 2023
#71: Apr 11th 2024 at 5:40:57 PM

>Goofy Hulk

>in a story inspired by Old Man Logan

Awkward.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#72: Apr 11th 2024 at 6:04:41 PM

You know, I think Donald could pull it off, too...

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Filip04 Since: Nov, 2023
#73: Apr 28th 2024 at 11:17:46 AM

Hi everyone, new troper here and this my first post on this discussion.

Who else is annoyed by the constant use of Chaste Toons (aka. uncles/aunts and nephews/nieces) in the Duck and Mouse comics? Because it looks like characters in this stories live in world where parents never appear. But what do you think about this?

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#74: Apr 28th 2024 at 12:27:38 PM

Well, it comes from an era were people were more uptight about proper parent-child relationships, and the idea of kids having adventures unsupervised or talking back to their parents was seen as more unacceptable, so nephewism was used to create more social distance. The nephews can get away with more with uncle Donald than they could with daddy Donald. This goes the other way too: Donald can be more irresponsible and ant6agonistic with the boys as an uncle, too.

Mind you, this does not prevent Donald from flogging the kids with a switch if they went over the line, at least in the older comics.

By the way, nephewism is nothing new. The Vikings practised nephewism, favouring their sister's sons over their own, because while you could never be entirely certain about the blood relationship of your son (if your wife cheated on you), but you always knew your sister's son was related by blood for sure.

It never really bothered me. Donald is the parental figure, and that works well enough.

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Robbery Since: Jul, 2012
#75: Apr 28th 2024 at 5:19:13 PM

I think "nephewism" was implemented because they wanted to do stories of Donald (or whoever) with some kids around, but they didn't want go through the rigamoroll of Donald having kids himself—they didn't want to change his "status" as it were. I expect it was the same story with any character who got nephews, be it Popeye or Mickey Mouse. I remember reading somewhere that a lot of characters were given nephews in the comics so that scripts featuring nephews could be reused among different characters.

I agree, at least with Donald, that his relationship with the nephews would read a lot differently—at least in the Barks stories— if he were their father.

And no, I can't say that the practice has ever bothered me much.

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