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Servbot Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
#101: Oct 23rd 2020 at 1:53:23 PM

There hasn't been a written statement published by hololive/Cover to, say, their Twitter yet, but many of these details were apparently explained by Artia during a recent stream.

It was Civia, actually. She also mentioned that Cover allowed them to share the information.

Based on what I hear is the state of Bilibili right now (i.e., Mass unsubscribes and deletions of fan videos of anything Hololive), this was honestly the best offer that Cover could have given them. The CN branch staying as Hololive at this time would put them at risk, so being allowed to go independent or move to a different Vtuber company really is the safest option for them. From what I hear, after they revealed all of this, their subscriptions are going up again and the Chinese nationalists are taking this as a win since they "saved their girls from Cover", so this move has helped ensure their safety and continued career.

And being allowed to keep ownership of not only their models but the in-progress upgrades they would have had as well? That's huge! After reading about far too many stories of Vtubers getting screwed over by their management, such as with Azuma Lim and Game-bu, having a company give their talents a severance package that allows them to continue streaming without having to start from scratch again is very commendable to say the least.

Personally, the one I feel sorry for the most here is Artia. She was the first Hololiver to join the Hololive Reddit community and frequently interacted with the English-speaking fans. She should have been celebrating with the rest of Hololive now, planning streams with EN members like Amelia, and generally reaping the success she helped foster. Instead, thanks to a bunch of Chinese nationalists that couldn't let go of their pride and assumptions, she probably couldn't even interact with Hololive members without making herself a target.

Edited by Servbot on Oct 23rd 2020 at 2:18:32 AM

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#102: Oct 23rd 2020 at 2:38:15 PM

Sorry I’m kind of a newbie to all this, but is her pivoting to a hypothetical EN 2nd generation out of the question?

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#103: Oct 23rd 2020 at 2:44:35 PM

Probably. At this point any further affiliation with Hololive is just putting a target on her forehead.

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#104: Oct 23rd 2020 at 4:07:44 PM

In happier news; Moona is gonna give Amelia and Gura a tour of the Minecraft JP server!

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#105: Oct 23rd 2020 at 5:47:56 PM

the Chinese nationalists are taking this as a win since they "saved their girls from Cover"
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#106: Oct 23rd 2020 at 6:44:32 PM

[up][up] How long before one of them gets lost?

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#107: Oct 23rd 2020 at 8:24:55 PM

I don't think they ever got lost, but Gura accidentally killed Aqua.

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#108: Oct 23rd 2020 at 9:01:58 PM

By pushing her into a berry bush. Which poked Aqua to death. Because Aqua shaved off most of her HP by running through the berry bushes to meet her juniors and introduce herself.

Never change Aqua. Never change. evil grin

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#109: Oct 23rd 2020 at 9:09:47 PM

Is that how her health got so low in the first place? I was only listening to that part. [lol]

Gura's Promoted Fangirl-ness was on full display, too, given how many times she said she'd watched things being built on stream. So excited.

Edited by RainehDaze on Oct 23rd 2020 at 5:10:15 PM

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#110: Oct 24th 2020 at 3:16:01 AM

Oh my God, Gigguk was right. Fubuki IS adorable. XD

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#111: Oct 24th 2020 at 6:28:00 AM

The Among Us stream has started and within a minute the first victim is, of all people, Calli.

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#112: Oct 24th 2020 at 6:30:49 AM

1/2 Impostors down in the first round of the Hololive En x Hololive Jp stream.

Make that a win for Gura. Atta girl!

Edited by SmilyTrope112 on Oct 24th 2020 at 2:32:55 PM

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#113: Oct 24th 2020 at 6:45:50 AM

Nene and Polka desperately fighting over Amelia's vote. [lol]

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#114: Oct 24th 2020 at 6:52:39 AM

Parable, that was hilarious to watch indeed. And now Gura's going to win.

Edited by SmilyTrope112 on Oct 24th 2020 at 2:54:06 PM

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#115: Oct 24th 2020 at 7:06:27 AM

Polka messed up lol. Gura walked RIGHT to the body and saw Polka walk away. She done screwed up.

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#116: Oct 24th 2020 at 7:44:52 AM

End results. Gura had a good day, Ina... did not. [lol]

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#117: Oct 24th 2020 at 8:50:20 AM

yo botan/gura killed 4 people before anyone noticed

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#118: Oct 24th 2020 at 9:12:31 AM

Was watching Polka's stream. That collab was awesome.

The irony of Calli getting killed first not once, but twice

Lamy just timidly saying "Lamy, um... bye bye" when she was voted out as imposter

Polka and Nene trying to convince Watson on which of them is the imposter, which included a Real Life example of Verbal Backpedaling, literal trash talking, and Polka telling Watson to choose the blonde one before realizing they're all blonde

The storm of puns when Ina was being voted out in the last game.

Great stream. Hope they do this again. evil grin

Edited by Servbot on Oct 24th 2020 at 9:13:51 AM

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#119: Oct 24th 2020 at 10:29:00 AM

Dang, that sounds like a blast. I had to dip out partway through the second game. Any other highlights?

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#120: Oct 24th 2020 at 10:55:06 AM

[up] I'm pretty sure Kiara after spacing Polka decided to have some savage parting words for the circus fox.tongue

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#121: Oct 24th 2020 at 11:05:03 AM

Watching Kiara and Gura realise Amelia was the impostor but not that they could call an emergency meeting (I think, chat was screaming about it) was hilarious.

Also note that if they had KNOWN that, Gura would've had a perfect streak. xD

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#122: Oct 24th 2020 at 7:57:31 PM

Watson didn't need even have to do anything in that last meeting since Kiara came in with Nene accusations blazing when the body was discovered. The Polka chat was cheering on Kiara for turning the game around from a likely loss for Polka to a definite win. As expected of the Bottom Left chicken evil grin

And sounds like the Nene and Ina streams turned into a love story when the two decided to get married behind everyone's backs in chat. Which then turned into a Yandere love story when Ina became an imposter, killed Nene, told Nene that she did it because she can't let anyone else kill her, and was forgiven by Nene so they can continue flirting in ghost chat. [lol]

Edited by Servbot on Oct 24th 2020 at 8:01:53 AM

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#123: Oct 24th 2020 at 9:12:53 PM

AKI SAID FUCK

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#124: Oct 24th 2020 at 11:00:56 PM

[up] I think it’s pretty much mandatory to say Fuck when you’re a guest on Coco’s meme review tongue

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#125: Oct 25th 2020 at 12:48:14 AM

she said it without coco prompting her to

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