Fallout: The Amazon Series

> They would, but there's a bug that prevents that scripted event from triggering.

while crashing to desktop while doing so!

Fallout 3 had that too, though not as bad.

The irony of Fallout 3 is that it actually addressed this discrepancy head on if you were reading the lore. Elder Lyons was trying to have the Brotherhood of Steel be heroes but that just resulted in about half of his men mutinying to become the Outcasts. It also became a slog that was destroying the BOS as they couldn't beat the Super Mutants (let alone the Enclave).

I even did an essay on it: https://unitedfederationofcharles.blogspot.com/2012/08/the-morality-ambiguity-of-brotherhood.html

We have writers and actors.

Lisa Joy and Jonathon Nolan are the head writers.

As for the actors, Wikipedia has the full list, but Walton Goggins will be playing a Ghoul, and as for other regulars/leads we have Ella Purnell, Kyle Maclachlan, Xelia Mendes-Jones and Aaron Mote.

Twisted Metal and The Last Of Us have made a believer out of me. Long ago video game TV series were inherently a bad idea. Now we have the technology and the minds to actually make it work.

That said I can't wait to see this get messed up.

It's weird that I also believe that this will come out at best funny bad, since theoretically it should basically be impossible to screw up a Fallout show. Fallout is a setting, not a story. You can basically do anything and justify it.

You'd think Halo or Doom would have been really hard to screw up, and yet...

If the showrunners have respect for the lore and themes of Fallout, hopefully they'll make a good show out of it and not whitewash the morally grey factions.

And the very next thing I said clarified this. They repeat the words a few times, but the text itself doesn't seem to, like, actually understand that point. The script of F4 knows "This is an important line to the series" and understands the importance of iterating it... but doesn't *get* that line.

Granted, yes, I did completely forget the black and white intro done in-character, but I still stand by "they don't really get the line". What I remembered was when it was said at the character creator scene and I *think* the news broadcaster says it for... some reason?

As for the convo of F3 vs. NV; I guess my stance is F3 isn't "Not a Fallout game" but it's not a great representation of the franchise to me. It's just kinda a shallow RPG in the same way other Bethesda RP Gs are. It's a Fallout game, but I do consider it an inoffensive but not great Fallout game. Not "shits on the franchise" bad, but not "good" either.

Yeah, it was the newscaster who said it. He muttered it to himself, and it only sort of made sense in context. You have to stretch it a bit to make it fit.

It's absolutely possible that they could screw this series up. It took me a while to really get the famous tagline, and I could easily see a corporate profit-mill churning out something that looks vaguely close but ultimately fails. But at the same time, Fallout as a franchise is much broader than, say, Lord of the Rings. It's designed to be open to new stories. So it could absolutely be good.

I guess my main worry is what they want the show to be about. Because you could do a horror story about a particularly bad Vault, or on adventure about wandering the wastes, or even a political story about helping rebuild. There's not a lot to go on right now.

... he literally doesn't, though. One of the trailers had him say it but the line was cut from the final version of the game, assuming it was ever in it at all and not just tacked on specifically for the trailer.

I think the only places in Fallout 4 it gets said are the intro, the character creation bit that reveals the intro was Nate/Male Protag practicing a speech, an Easter Egg if you go to the place he was supposed to give the speech and interact with the microphone, and as the final words of the ending cutscene. The first and last of which are how it's used in every Fallout game that uses it.

But I digress. I agree that it's lost a lot of its weight and isn't all that thematically relevant to the last several games, but the doom-and-glooming about a series we still don't even have a teaser trailer for is a bit much.

Edited by Dirtyblue929 on Oct 30th 2023 at 2:42:51 AM

Doomposters gonna doompost.

The cast and writers give me hope. J. Nolan's best work is a ways behind him but its still a very solid creative team.

Joy and Nolan make me a bit nervous.

I consider Westworld Season 1 to be one of the best seasons of television I've ever seen. Fantastic show. Amazing writing. Love it.

And it's all down hill after that until S4 finally killed it off. What an utter disappointment Westworld eventually became.

Kinda worry that, much as I did like them at one point, they can't do a solid season anymore.

But, at the same time, Fallout is a fresh start. Nothing to pay off, everything to set up. They have very little holding them back from it being good; few "sins of the father" problems.

Edited by InkDagger on Oct 31st 2023 at 10:46:09 AM

First official press release via Vanity Fair. The writer clearly isn't familiar with Fallout at all so grain of salt on a lot of this due to being filtered through the reporting of someone who thoroughly has no idea what this franchise is.

Overall premise:

Putting on my speculation hat: I think the main error in the article probably caused by the writer either misunderstanding things, not being told things, or just not really caring about this franchise they've never heard of, is that the series in not set exclusively in Los Angeles as repeatedly insinuated.

It seems like it starts there but judging from the multiple photos in this press release (and prior leaks) showing decidedly non-desert locales I'm inclined to think that the characters wind up journeying to the East Coast. "Philly" gets name-dropped as a settlement which is a place mentioned in FO3 and pretty clearly refers to Philadelphia, PA, but the writer thoughtlessly writes of it as a settlement "in the remnants of greater Los Angeles", lmao

Edited by Dirtyblue929 on Nov 28th 2023 at 10:52:29 AM

That reminds me of when some EW writers were reporting on Krypton and they asked if Adam Strange was related to Doctor Strange.

I'm pretty pscyhed about this the more I hear. Goggins is always good, and I've liked Purnell in everything I've seen her in.

Wait, what does F-4 not get "War never changes?"

I think its wiser to go into this a little skeptical.

...Nah, I'm good.

F4 gets nothing. The game is an ocean wide but 1mm thick. Every single thing you do in that game is just shooting and looting.

Again, what doesn't Fallout 4 get about the line "war never changes?"

We know they're going for an original story, but do we think we might get any canon characters?

With the Brotherhood making an appearance there's definitely some NPC types they could adapt.

It seems like its going to be Twisted Metal-ish. The TV series I mean. Person leaves home in search of something in a dangerous place.

I'm afraid its going to be too serious and miss the fun/wacky stuff like the Republic of Dave and the Mysterious Stranger. Fallout is so many things it'd be difficult for a show to pin down which things to focus on.

Edited by FOFD on Nov 29th 2023 at 3:10:54 PM

I have to say I fear the "Warcraft effect" for this series: ending up with a Mad Max clone that lacks the spirit of the games.

I imagine they'll stick to broad strokes.

So while Purnell's character will be from an original Vault it will probably have elements of canon Vaults, like a busted water chip or a corrupt Overseer and so on.

She'll then most likely be the audience surrogate type, while the Ghoul, who will almost certainly be Pre-War, will guide her through meetings with Super Mutants and the Brotherhood.

I could see them doing the Enclave as the big bad of the season, or saving them for a potential future season while hinting at their presence.

IIRC the leaked photos of shooting included a person in what looked like an enclave uniform.

RE: the vaults, also from leaks include an unspecified vault that had rustic farmhouses inside its atrium for some reason, and (possibly, this one is unconfirmed) a dweller wearing a weird vault-tec vestements over their jumpsuit, like some kind of religious leader. Which could indicate that Vault 33 or a later vault that Lucy visits has some sort of religion-themed experiment going on

Worshiping Vault Boy isn't the kind of oddity that would be out of place in the setting.

Especially for Vault Tec.

They're already insane fanatics.

Given the talk of the various factions going after a powerful artifact, i wonder if it'll be something like the GECK from the games, or just something new.

The Brotherhood is definitely going to be front and center, and it'll be interesting to see what kind of take they go with, as the Brotherhood is the faction that probably changes the most across the various games.

I think it helps that the main viewpoint character there is a Squire and not a proper Knight.