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Darkflamewolf Since: Apr, 2013
#26: Mar 1st 2019 at 6:42:58 AM

When I was troping In Darkness I Hide. I literally pulled up trope pages for my past works that had pages, trope pages for work from my friends, etc. and literally went down the list of tropes on each page and asked myself: do any of these fit my current story? If they did, I'd add it, but I made absolutely sure there was an example to show to justify the trope addition. Always have examples.

XFllo There is no Planet B from Planet A Since: Aug, 2012
There is no Planet B
#27: Mar 1st 2019 at 3:21:39 PM

[up][up] About Darkest Dungeon, Blazing Bright: The page looks ok, but some examples are ZCE with Word Cruft. Could you re-write those? These all need improvement:

  • William the Houndmaster and his trusty dog Annabelle definitely qualifies. [plus it should be qualify, if anything]
  • The Warrens is this in spades.
  • Both Estelle and Joshua use it to deal with the horrors they witness.
  • The Collector is definitely this.
  • Reynauld speaks this way.

Have a look at page Zero-Context Example for more info.

  • Noodle Incident: Estelle has killed somebody in the past, but she didn't have any other options at the time.
    • This doesn't sound like a noodle incident. That has to be something more obscure.

ZoneAdv944 from Somewhere in Canada Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#28: Mar 1st 2019 at 6:40:55 PM

[up] Thanks for the advice. I'll go retool some of them and remove the others.

Cganale Since: Dec, 2010
#29: Mar 1st 2019 at 9:56:32 PM

For reference, I've done my own pages at Project Arashi and Full Metal Panic! Bonds. I did 90% of the work myself aside from a few contributors to FMP that I never knew about and my ex helping with Project Arashi. And some folk throwing in a few YMM Vs. The only thing there I'm responsible for myself was adding Ensemble Dark Horse on one of my characters that was notably becoming quite popular.

ZoneAdv944 from Somewhere in Canada Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#30: Mar 1st 2019 at 10:35:46 PM

[up]Is it safe to assume troping your own fics is far more common than I thought? In that case, I'll try to maintain my page on a regular basis (i.e. whenever I publish a new chapter).

XFllo There is no Planet B from Planet A Since: Aug, 2012
There is no Planet B
#31: Mar 2nd 2019 at 8:23:38 AM

[up] I gather it is indeed common.

Berserker88 Since: Dec, 2010
#32: Mar 3rd 2019 at 8:13:43 AM

Phew. Been doing a lot of work on my own page this weekend, adding Characters, Shout Out, and Foreshadowing pages. Still needs more work though.

Edited by Berserker88 on Mar 3rd 2019 at 8:14:11 AM

Darkflamewolf Since: Apr, 2013
JDRod_2 Since: Dec, 2018
#34: Mar 4th 2019 at 11:09:06 AM

I would be flattered if someone made a page for one of my fics...

MystDesdemona The One Within the Darkness from Göteborg Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
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#35: Mar 4th 2019 at 12:20:41 PM

[up][up] I'm of the same mind lol. Although I'd like to earn that privilege through actually finishing my fic (Or at least hitting the 100k mark) and polishing it up.

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#36: Apr 8th 2019 at 11:25:53 AM

Reviving this thread to ask another question related.

What about creating a Creators page for yourself, assuming your works have trope pages? Is that a thing? I saw the Fanfic Authors page had launched, so was wondering if I was allowed to create a page for myself with The Apprentice, the Student, and the Charlatan attached to it or if that wasn't permitted.

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Darkflamewolf Since: Apr, 2013
#37: Apr 19th 2019 at 10:05:04 AM

I think it should be fine as long as you don't touch the subjective opinion pieces/pages like YMMV/Awesome/Tearjerker/etc.

Berserker88 Since: Dec, 2010
#38: Apr 21st 2019 at 4:27:55 PM

Another question: If a character from something you wrote makes an appearance in another fic, even a major one, you don't list that on the original character page, right? You would only mention that on the page for the other fic? Because this isn't the only character who has cameo'd in something else and it kinda seems like a relevancy issue.

DSRClone Since: Apr, 2012
#39: Jul 24th 2019 at 8:44:47 AM

Apologies for the potential Thread Necro, but what about indexing your own trope page? Is that something the original author should worry about, or should it be left to other Tropers?

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#40: Jul 24th 2019 at 8:47:44 AM

Indexing is OK. We suffer far more commonly from its absence than from authors doing it.

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DSRClone Since: Apr, 2012
#41: Jul 30th 2019 at 9:35:44 AM

In such a case, how does one go about indexing their own trope pages? I want to make certain I don't end up screwing things up.

Darkflamewolf Since: Apr, 2013
#42: Aug 19th 2019 at 7:23:01 AM

You basically look at other fanfic pages similar to yours and see what common indexes they are listed on and basically go to those pages and edit a link back to the main page of your troped work in their listing following the format of that index page. BOOM! Done. cool

YeetBoiSwag sexy auteur fanfic writer from deez nuts Since: Sep, 2018 Relationship Status: Abstaining
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#43: Sep 15th 2019 at 10:47:58 AM

Hey, dudes. I made a tropes page for my fanfiction and I was wondering if any of you guys would perhaps like to check it out and maybe read the fanfic and add some YMMV items? I can't add them myself but I certainly intended to create a designated hero with the original fanfic and even in the more serious remake (the original trilogy was a troll-fic that varied in levels of trollishness) he could definitely be considered to be unlikable. It'd be interesting to hear you guys' opinion on the fic.

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#44: May 20th 2020 at 3:40:03 PM

older thread, but there's a point the original question brings up i don't think was addressed - is there an etiquette on adding examples to tropes pages from your own fics? is it frowned upon? i always worried about doing it and being seen as egotistical or self-promoting, but on the other hand (to use an example i did) i don't think many people are going to the flaying alive page for fanfic material.

any thoughts on this?

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Darkflamewolf Since: Apr, 2013
#45: May 21st 2020 at 10:47:03 AM

I mean, if there are legit examples in your fanfic and you can back them up with those examples, I don't see harm in it.

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#46: May 23rd 2020 at 4:54:30 AM

I want to ask if it's redundant to list tropes on a fanfic page that were already in Canon, especially if the tropes play out the exact same way in both the fic and the original work?

amitakartok Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
#47: May 23rd 2020 at 5:58:43 AM

In that case I'd simply note "As canon." and move on to the next trope.

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#48: May 23rd 2020 at 6:08:01 AM

That's a ZCE. This thread is discussing it, currently we're looking at "there's no need to bother mentioning it unless it's different from canon somehow."

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#49: Jun 24th 2020 at 12:35:23 PM

44: Theoretically, crosswicking is not just permitted, but required.

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Cganale Since: Dec, 2010
#50: Jun 27th 2020 at 11:13:54 PM

Weirdly, I've never thought it odd to fill in my own fic trope pages, because otherwise no one would. What I have felt is a bit too self-aggrandizing is to go on my own and link my fic on the trope page. For some reason, I feel like I don't have the right to say my stuff is good enough to be represented on an actual trope page?


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