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Mrph1 MOD he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies
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#401: Apr 2nd 2024 at 10:19:55 AM

As people have been pointing out in earlier posts:

  • The Israel and Palestine thread is locked
  • The Antisemitism thread is locked
  • The US Politics thread is locked

Discussion on any of these topics is not welcome on the forums at the moment.

If Shaun's talking about them, that's on-topic here and we can report and directly discuss that as part of Shaun's work. If he says something that's factually wrong or showcases an unfamiliarity with US politics, for example, that's worthy of comment.

But when that becomes a subjective discussion between tropers, not a direct response to Shaun (and, in some posts, no longer mentioning Shaun at all) then it's off-topic and likely to get thumped in line with the locked thread rules.

Also, if you're just posting a link or video without context, that's also likely to get thumped. This is a longstanding forum rule and applies to all topics.

Lyendith Since: Mar, 2011
#402: Apr 2nd 2024 at 10:41:08 AM

Huh, well, so, uhm… I had missed Shaun’s brief video about Prager U and Fatherhood, t’was a good occasion to catch up.

Another case of Prager U being thwarted by their own sources. tongue I like the distinction made between "father" and "dad" here.

Regarding the statistics about fatherless children quoted by Obama, I wonder if there are similar studies for kids raised by single fathers…

dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#403: Apr 2nd 2024 at 2:54:54 PM

Another case of Prager U being thwarted by their own sources.

Oh yeah, it seems to happen a lot with, well, many PU videos. [lol]

With that said, though, I must confess that up until rather recently, I never really bothered to check the sources that video essays cite.

Along with ones from the likes of H.Bomberguy and Super Eyepatch Wolf, Shaun's videos actually taught me how to research subjects in video essays. [lol]

I'm a (socialist) professional writer serializing a WWII alternate history webnovel.
Chortleous she/her friend to the hooved (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: She does the things you do, but she is an IBM
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#404: Apr 2nd 2024 at 5:30:29 PM

It's a classic conservative strategy (well, grifters/content mills in general) to cite sources that don't really agree with the statements being made, but because nobody actually reads sources—or knows how to interpret things like studies when they do—viewers just assume good faith whenever they see a citation.

Edited by Chortleous on Apr 2nd 2024 at 8:37:33 AM

JethroQWalrustitty Since: Jan, 2001
#405: Apr 2nd 2024 at 10:36:24 PM

Tangenitally related, but I am just listening to the latest Behind the Bastards episode on the birth of Think Tanks. Prager U comes from the same tradition of creating the appearance of an intellectual argument for things that are actually indefensible. The point isn't to actually have a rigorous argument, it's just to flood the zone with paper. Just so many things to cite that it gives the air of legitimacy.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#406: Apr 2nd 2024 at 10:40:59 PM

indeed, there is a tendency in years to try to reframe a lot of stuff, is less academy and more politics in vein of inteletuallity. given Prager U is not really a university...

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KoBB Since: Apr, 2013
#407: Apr 2nd 2024 at 10:59:40 PM

IIRC, Oklahoma and Florida included Prager U in their list of recommended curricular materials a year ago.

Edited by KoBB on Apr 2nd 2024 at 11:00:16 AM

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