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ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#51: Oct 25th 2017 at 6:25:42 PM

@The Librarian: Remember most of the Norsca tribes openly worship pantheons including the Chaos Gods. Sigmar really should have tried to kill them all.

edited 25th Oct '17 6:26:42 PM by ViperMagnum357

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
SebastianGray (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#53: Nov 18th 2017 at 2:20:53 AM

The Necromunda limited edition Print on Demand reprint novels and comics are available for pre-order today for anyone who is interested. I already have all the novels but will definitely be getting the comics.

edited 18th Nov '17 2:21:05 AM by SebastianGray

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#54: Jan 6th 2018 at 7:51:53 PM

Im reading the malus darkblade series again and I have to admit it find annoying the emphasis to the evilness of the druuchi get over and over, on the other hand I quite like Dan Abett developing the druuchi far more than their army books did.

Also the chaos waste is is scaaaaaaary shit, really.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
SebastianGray (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#55: Jan 11th 2018 at 1:27:21 AM

It is the yearly chance to write for Black Library.

This year is more open than previous years to selebrate Black Library's 20th Anniversary. Stories can be set in the contemporary Warhammer Age of Sigmar, Warhammer 40,000, Blood Bowl or Necromunda worlds and have one of the following themes: Heist; Detective/Police Procedural; Adventure; Mystery; Ghost/Paranormal/Horror; War

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#56: Oct 30th 2018 at 1:00:18 PM

I recently picked up the third Ciaphas Cain omnibus Saviour of the Imperium and Guy Haley's Dark Imperium: Plague War. Cain's first omnibus was my first foray into 40K fiction, and these latest three books and short stories don't disappoint, although there were definitely times that the Once an Episode points got a little aggravating. I really enjoyed Dark Imperium, and Plague War was no slouch either, especially when it came to Guilliman struggling with the question of whether or not Emps really has become a god and the argument between he and Mortarion at the climax.

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#57: Oct 31st 2018 at 12:30:03 PM

I read that bit on the 40K Lore subreddit, where Guilliman goes "You think you're tough? You're a pussy because you kowtowed to something that was turning your Astartes into monsters and still thought 'I want to live more than I want my pride intact'" when the entire reason he rebelled against the Emperor was because of pride. I always love when Chaos gets epically smacked down.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#58: Apr 4th 2020 at 3:57:43 AM

Have anyone here read josh reynolds books?

I read road of skulls on is take of the gelix and gotrek series and is a favorite of mine, I still dont feel he capture the dynamic between the slayer and poet but it was pretty nice, but I will said is the chaos horde who capture my imagination the most, specially because he fill stuff of side little chararters.

In fact is other book, the serpent queen kinda sorta does the same, is almost a constant were he goes back and fort between hero and villian in POV, if anything the side chararters come as more intersting as result: the vampire who read too much theater plays, the kisvle khrone follower(who is a woman by the way), and for many the only cool khronate who is not a ravaging imbecile.

Have anyone here read is books?.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#59: Apr 4th 2020 at 11:22:53 AM

I've only read the first Gotrek and Felix book that's the collection of short stories.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#60: Apr 5th 2020 at 9:42:54 AM

[up]Then I recomend you read at least the second one, skavenslayer because is when the series grow the beard(and I will said it reach is peak in demonslayer but that is me) by adding a single storyline instead of short ones and flesh up Felix and Gotrek a lot more.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#62: Jan 29th 2021 at 10:51:15 AM

Been making my way steadily through the Horus Heresy novels.

I'm a Chaos fan and I'm on First Heretic, at the part where Tal is discussing Cadia.

    Idenifying with Lorgar 
So I enjoy Warhammer for a lot of reasons. Undoubtedly a lot of it is silly pulp full of characters of varying levels of depth but ever since I first read brief summaries and descriptions of key figures on the 40K Wiki, I felt a special kinship with the Word Bearers. I mean, I've always been a pretty big Chaos fan just as I enjoy the Evil deities in D&D. When your entire society and civilization is built around a personification of malevolence...when malevolence itself is an active force in the universe, what does that say about your thoughts and deeds? The way morality works in the real world completely collapses under the weight of such metaphysical facts.

While Slaanesh is absolutely my favorite Chaos God, the vain, superficial worship of the non-Word Bearer Legions don't interest me much. No, it is Lorgar's and his sons' faith that really captures the essence of Chaos. Because I fundamentally, passionately agree with them - Faith is the greatest thing a human can aspire to.

In my journey through HH I have finally reached "The First Heretic" and it confirms so much of my hopes and expectations. I really so see a lot of myself in Lorgar. I had just finished "A Thousand Sons " (my favorite HH novel so far) and so Lorgar and Magnus having a special relationship really appealed to me. I was glad they got a whole chapter to discuss these matters.

‘As I’ve told you before,’ [Lorgar] said, ‘it’s not my city. I had a hand in it, but I am not solely responsible for the wonders we see here.’

‘Always, this modesty.’ Magnus’s tone had the slightest edge of disapproval, perhaps hinting at a lecture soon to come. ‘You live your life for others, Lorgar. There is a line when selflessness becomes unhealthy. If all you do is to raise others from ignorance, when is there time for you to learn more yourself? If all you seek is a greater purpose in existence, where is the joy in your own life? Look to the future, but cherish the present.’

Here the vanity of Magnus the Red is on full display - rebuking the humble Lorgar for...being humble. Magnus is a man who meant well but always hi arrogance blinded him from doing all he could to help. His arrogance here doomed Lorgar as much as Erebus will later.

I was eight years old when I realised that some people had pleasant dreams instead of endless nightmares. Nothing could have shocked me more.’

[...]

‘What are the voices?’ Lorgar screamed over the rising winds. ‘Who calls to me?’

Magnus' flagrantly false commitment to the Imperial "Truth" made him refuse to offer any real guidance or help to his desperate brother. Lorgar was crying out for help and both his father and his dearest brother stayed true to their course, lying to him at every opportunity.

And an extra tragic layer to all this is that Magnus is no fool. He's not wrong about Lorgar. Lorgar is motivated by fear - the same existential dread that grips all sapient beings. Are we alone in a meaningless universe? Has everything we've done been for nothing? All Lorgar wanted was to be assured that there is something out there greater than anything else, something that gives rhyme and reason to the lives we lead.

Cyrene: "You are so certain in everything you do. I envy you for that.’[...] I just find it curious that you have no regrets. No doubts."

Argel Tal: "It’s not confidence. It’s... duty. I live by the Word. What is written must come to be, else all will come to nothing."

I'd subtract duty and replace it with faith as Xaphen says here:

Xaphen: Over countless centuries, humanity has achieved great things in the name of faith. History teaches us this. Faith is the fuel for the soul’s journey. Without belief in greater ideals, we are incomplete – the union of the spirit with the flesh is what raises us above beasts and inhumans.

Without Faith to justify our existence and our deeds, we're just animals. Or even worse...monsters. Lorgar brings up again and again how he waged a war to bring his homeworld into the new religion of the Emperor and he bemoans this act because it was all for nothing. All those slain there and all those who would die later on were killed for nothing. Lorgar can't bear to live in a world where he has killed...for nothing. It reminds me of one of Wit's stories in one of the Stormlight Archive books if any of you read those.

"I waged a holy war in the name of a father who finally descended from above, saw the oceans of blood and tears shed in his name, and simply didn’t care. I wasted my youth hunched over scripture and religious codices, planning for the messiah’s coming, believing he would give meaning to all human life – meaning that thousands of human cultures are forever seeking. And I was wrong."

But in the end, Lorgar finds his faith. The Emperor denied him, Magnus abandoned him, but he would not be stopped. His devotion would not be stopped because fundamentally Lorgar is a person who needs devotion to function. I understand that need all too well. If any of you played Pillars of Eternity, the ending of that game was extremely poignant for me. What lengths would you go to in order to give meaning and purpose to the lives of men and women? The answer is...any.

It's kind of why I'm looking to Age of Sigmar and the Chaos stories there, stories about the followers of the "true gods" who live in Chaos societies. It' not all just BLOOD FOR TEH BLOOD GOD, it's a heartfelt commitment to these beings who are by most standards gods. Who offer that aforementioned rhyme and reason to our lives.

The cold, secular light of the Imperial Truth, even if it was actually true, would never suit the disposition of somebody like Lorgar or myself. People throughout all of history have been romantics, guided by feelings more than reason. All we want is something to believe in...Chaos is something to believe in. And it gladly accepts your devotion.

I confess though, I am eager to catch up and get started more seriously on Age of Sigmar. Somebody recommended me "Scourge of Fate" and I have definitely enjoyed what I read of that. It is exactly what I want and my understanding is that AOS delivers on this a lot more than 40K. In the HH we see many functioning Chaos societies destroyed by the Crusade. By 40K meanwhile it seems like many Chaos Worlds and Marines are just burn and destroy everything rargh.

AOS meanwhile has had Chaos ascendant for a long time and there are Chaos civilizations and groups everywhere.

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#63: Jan 29th 2021 at 6:30:00 PM

Yeah, Age of Sigmar allows us to get looks at cultures that existed way before the titular period during the Age of Myths and the Age of Chaos. I remember one short story or something where there was a collection of floating cities located inside a caldera or something like that.

I ought to get back into reading the Age of Sigmar books.

MasterGhandalf Since: Jul, 2009
#64: Jan 30th 2021 at 2:02:38 PM

On that note, does anyone know where to find a good reading order for the Age of Sigmar novels and/or a convenient reference for all the novels published for the setting? I've been considering getting into them myself.

Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#66: Jul 4th 2021 at 5:37:19 PM

Well I will said I finish the infinite and the divine and I LOVED IT, is probablyone of the best warhammer book in a while, in part because unlike many other who are militaristic fiction or science fantasy, this one really embrace more a sci fi root, with the super duper advance necrons, the book seen more like a though experiment "what is for a race to live forever without anything else but their own minds?" even stuff like the code to enter the tomb is made in mathematical equation.

Now im reading the fabius bile trilogy, it is pretty good all think considering, I really like josh reynolds novels.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
KnightofLsama Since: Sep, 2010
#67: Jul 6th 2021 at 1:12:39 AM

[up] The other great part of the book. Trazyn and Orikan spending literal millennia proving that yes, they are that petty and spiteful when it comes to the other with the only real difference being that Trazyn at least admits it.

TheCuriousFan Since: Jan, 2011
#68: Jul 6th 2021 at 3:08:49 AM

And if you want a serious Necron story you can always go with the Severed novella focused on Zahndrekh and Obyron.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#69: Jul 26th 2021 at 6:19:15 AM

[up][up]Yeah that book wont be so good if it wasnt for trazin/orkian shitposting each other for mileenia.

"Do you have a statue orikan?".

Now I finish fabius bill trilogy and.....damn it is REALLY good, I love how explore the idea of chaos apothecary, a unit always feel let down since is the medit of supersoldier who can nearly tank everytihng, if anything I want to know more about the consortium.

Something I notices about josh reynolds is that he is very good at coming with groups of 6 or 7 guys and make them talk each other, he would be excelt writing a heist movie or a suicide squad type of comic.

The only bad thing I will said is that his fighting or war scene are....sorta there, there was a lot of time about the preparations of fabius and 12 mileenial to atack luggarnath and the fight inselft is very meh probably because josh didnt really create any enemy beyond veilwalker(who I hate the most for is speech pattern, god that was annoying), the second is the best in my opinion because is mostly talking with little action, specially the resolution which let me cold.

Meanwhile the third one(manflayer) is weird in that it asume people know what happen to Fabius travel to comorragh which is ether under a audio book or a codex because is seriously took sometimes to know why all the sudden fabius consortium is in tathers, but once you get pass that the book is really good and it really show a insight of fabius mindset that make you like him a lot, something I didnt expect of a mind scientist.

Of other minor chararters, I like some like Arrian, is death was epic, Savona feel very similar to another chararter I saw in josh novel, road of skull and them queen of serpents so I feel he like action girls, it was a nice slaaneshi girl that didnt feel too steriotypical which is nice in representation terms.

In short I Hi GHLY recomended, it make me wanted to create a chaos apothecary chararter.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Zarastro Since: Sep, 2010
#70: Jul 29th 2021 at 5:38:38 AM

I recently read Dark Imperium and while there were many great moments (a lot of them related to Guilliman), my favourite one happened as part of the backstory of Guilliman's Militant-Apostolic Mathieu. While the latter (en par for the course for the setting, though his obsession with his mentor seems really ununsual) has some rather "strange" views, he nevertheless gave his rations and clothes away to the poor during his time at schola, just because he thought it was the right thing to do. Later when the planet was attacked by the Alpha Legion and all priests and students were methodically slaughtered, he was the only survivor because the citizens hid him away (against his resistance). It is never outright said, but the implication is that they did so because he had helped them in the past. Just a small reminder that even in a grimdark setting, acts of kindness are possible and can get rewarded.

SebastianGray (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#71: Sep 29th 2021 at 8:49:58 AM

To celebrate its new edition, this year's chance to write for Black Library is Warhammer: Age of Sigmar only.

Have you ever harboured ambitions of writing for Black Library? Do you have a Warhammer story idea that the world needs to read? The Open Submissions window is a chance for aspiring Black Library authors to show off their writing chops, and Black Library Submissions Editor Richard Garton-Wills is here to tell us all about it.
Richard: With Warhammer Age of Sigmar’s glorious new edition in full swing, what better way to celebrate than with a Black Library Open Submissions window?

This time we want all aspiring authors to immerse themselves in the newest Mortal Realms lore and pen original, gripping tales taking place in the time of the Dawnbringer Crusades. As brave Freeguilds answer the Crusader’s Bell and take up the sword, will you take up the scribe’s quill?

If you want to submit an idea in this window, all you have to do is send us a 50-word summary of your proposed short story, along with a 500-word writing sample.

We would like to see unique stories that fully embrace the spirit of Warhammer Age of Sigmar’s new edition and its developing narrative – tales that capture the essence of the realm in which they’re set. If what we read impresses us, we will ask to see more, and your story could even be published.

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What do Bloodbound hosts or the deathless minions of Nagash make of these titanic migrations and the upheaval they bring? Are the orruk warclans – newly bolstered by kunnin’ Kruleboyz – delighted by the prospect of the fighting coming to them for a change?

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Also here is an article about Marc Collins, who applied in 2018 and now has his first full length novel out.

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#72: Sep 29th 2021 at 9:14:57 AM

I unfortunately am far less familiar with AOS than 40K or normal Fantasy so I'll unfortunately be skipping this time, I think xD

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#73: Oct 15th 2021 at 4:14:37 PM

So I finish the two abaddon books and I reading again the Malus darkblade books:

The two books are....intersting? plot wise they are somewhat meandring in general, the first one focus on half in finding abaddon and the other half in atacking Fabius and really I dont care that much, the second is even worse since it talk about the sword drach´nyeh, abaddon facing a rival for controling the eye, the first black crusade, etc and it happen in somewhat random plots in general, but what it does it that it really fill the fluff of chaos with stuff, we see their strenght and weakness and how it moves, I really need a third book to judge it but I will said that I love the fabius bille more.

Now, reading the malus book they are fun, they are really fast and have a very clear sword and sorcery vibe to it, I like the second one so far because how much malus manipulate everyone and yet how close he come to bite the dust.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
SebastianGray (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#74: Dec 6th 2021 at 9:10:10 AM

There is going to be an online preview of the 2022 Black Library lineup at 2pm GMT on Warhammer Community on Saturday.

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#75: Dec 12th 2021 at 4:59:29 AM

I've been thinking about reading Gotrek & Felix again, because I remember enjoying the first few books many years ago. Anybody recommend the later novels by Nathan Long, or should I just stick to the earlier ones written by William King?


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