Danganronpa V3: Killing Harmony (spoilers)

I can't for the translation so I can learn which of these sixteen fine young people will be the next Ultimate Meme Machine. My money's on Kokichi.

Other than the twist at the first and last chapters, I've also seen some online deception over the new mastermind compared to Junko, but I don't mind the character. I think they is a neat enough concept on its own. I like they didn't apparently try to top Junko, which would have felt forced, and I've always liked characters with the kind of skill gimmick the mastermind has.

From what I've seen, Ki-Bo the robot takes that spot so far, with the Megumin Expy taking second place.

edited 15th Jan '17 4:42:55 PM by NapoleonDeCheese

Wait, there's a twist at the start of the game?

...Oh geez, I might know what it is. Dang.

Well there's always a twist during every first trial. D1 Sayaka tried to commit murder & frame Makoto for it. D2 Byakua is suddenly killed after apparently surviving 1 Killing Game & trying to lead the others. The twist in D3 thought is a fuck up though.

Nice to know Kibo is popular. I loved that little robot the first moment I saw him & was a little disappointed that he wasn't the playable character.

Oh yeah I forgot about that. Yeah I agree the revelation of Nagito's insanity is a better reveal, thanks for mentioning that.

edited 15th Jan '17 5:07:23 PM by slimcoder

I'd say DR 2's twist is that Nagito is actually bonkers but whatever

Okay, so that was what I thought the twist was. Good to know I'm in the clear.

Although if it's worse than something like that, now I'm scared.

Ok so the games recap page seems filled in, especially the trials & I gotta ask how accurate is it?

Cause I just read the pretty detailed story for the last trial & wow its depressing. Man its a fucked & awful situation, even worse than Junko in a way cause I mean Junko was a fucked up anomaly of a human being but at least she was just one person but here if its true, I mean Jesus.

edited 15th Jan '17 6:56:53 PM by slimcoder

Truth Hurts is so close to being right on the money...

I don't think Truth Hurts applies here at all. Human society is nowhere as fucked up as that, that's just a Strawman Nihilist view on the world.

Again, if we were that bad, the world would have collapsed on itself long ago.

edited 16th Jan '17 4:54:51 AM by NapoleonDeCheese

Whaddya mean I don't apply here?!

I was talking about the troper...

EDIT: Holy shit, Kiibo's ahoge is literally an antenna. This trial is so fucking meta. The only way it could be mroe meta is if Kiibo *was* the PC.

edited 16th Jan '17 10:44:36 AM by LinkToTheFuture

Obviously still not reading here, but I'm starting chapter 2 today, I figured should link my new Twitter thread.

As you all can tell from my previous thread, I loved chapter 1 to death.

I don't know if this is my place to say this, but whoever wrote the YMMV page really does not like this game.

edited 16th Jan '17 12:10:53 PM by LinkToTheFuture

I don't think you have to spoil-tag that.

Also about the page, how accurate is it?

Ah then yeah its pretty fucking negative.

edited 16th Jan '17 12:20:22 PM by slimcoder

It wasn't a judgement, just an observation.

I'm getting the feeling that a lot of people mostly hate the ending because of the Unfortunate Implications but if you don't take that into account is the ending really that bad?

After actually seeing Trial 6 in action, I've gone from "this is pretty cool" to "this is some pretty epic shit".

As far as Danganronpa twists go, it's fairly standard stuff I'd say.

Yeah, I can say the twist itself at least most of it fits the series brand of madness & is something I can see happening.

The content though is just too nihilist sadly.

It's not even as revolutionary as it seems, variations on both calling the audience out (while still ignoring you're the one supplying the product in the first place, so if anything blame yourself first and then try correcting what you think needs correcting on your own side) and on the 'killer reality/game TV show' premise have been out for decades. Hell, there are examples of the latter in cheesy Schwarzenegger movies from the early eighties and Looney Tunes from the fifties, f'r Pete's sake.

Anyway, I think this endgame is actually a good lead-up for another Ultra Despair Girls action Gaiden game. You've got the Ultimate Assassin of sorts and a magic user of sorts in the run to find and punish powerful people in a world filled with sadism, that premise almost begs for it.

When I heard the game was out, I became pretty impatient and looked up the spoilers for it all day.

I'm not a fan of the Take That, Audience! angle from chapter 6, almost entirely because Spike Chunsoft and Kodaka decided to make yet another teen murder mystery game when no one forced them too. It doesn't work when you criticize the audience for being fans of what you've put out for the last 7 years, because of course the most interesting aspects of your franchise are what drew people here in the first place. And when you kill off these characters in-universe for real, while also making it clear the in-universe world has pretty much accepted these reality killing games as entertainment, why is the audience suppose to accept this as a Take That! to them? All you did was make your world a shithole full of assholes. That all being said, if this indeed the last game then at least I can respect the ending.

That's my sole criticism though. Everything else I've heard about the game makes it seem pretty good.

The ending isn't bad, but Kodaka and Spike have no business being preachy about the content they choosing to keep making.

edited 16th Jan '17 5:54:26 PM by VeryMelon

It is amazing how a bad ending or the message of it in this case can ruin a serviceable game. Disappointing truly especially for the people who have played it.

Sorry dude ya might have to lose your respect cause the game does end on an apparent sequel hook & word of God tweeted something that implicates a sequel or future tittles or whatever.

I am curious as to where their taking this franchise now. They can either end it or follow up on whatever their plan is for this setting & remaining cast. They can also take a third option & reboot the whole thing, starting everything all over without any baggage.

edited 16th Jan '17 6:42:38 PM by slimcoder

Kodaka has apparently been tweeting stuff implying that there's more to the prologue than meets the eye. Given the whole thematics of V3 though, it might just be more bullshitting.

No I think this is legit. Remember the hidden post-game easter eggs like the bathhouse and beach CGs in the first two games? That's probably what he's talking about.

edited 17th Jan '17 9:44:10 PM by LordVatek

No, Kodaka is talking about Shirogane's claims that the students are brainwashed normies who joined the game for sake of money, fame, and general sadism. In the prologue, when everyone is in their school uniforms, they claimed that they have no idea why they are there and they have no talent when the Monokumas are asking them. Then the Monokumas are having a discussion on how one of them (read:Monofunny) is not doing the brainwash right before they have the students doing the magical girl transformation.

Based on this, combined with the flashes of Saihara talking with a certain principal that he wants to die with everyone, it can be concluded that the students are actually genuine Ultimate students who brainwashed themselves into normies to avoid the Ultimate Hunt, but were captured in the Hunt and brainwashed back into Ultimates for sake of the game; AKA they are not willing participants. In which it puts holes into the authenticity of Shirogane's claims and the audition tapes.

edited 21st Jan '17 6:31:29 AM by AlaAlba