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Edited by Mrph1 on Apr 15th 2024 at 11:22:13 AM
I think Iran problem is that they wants to be a dominant regional power and, ironically, try to mimic the united states to achieve that goal.
Just like the US during the cold war, Iran has been supplying various shady groups with weapons in an effort to destabilize regimes who are not in their sphere of influence, without getting their hands dirty.
The problem is that the US is a superpower and used this tactic against countries who were on the other side of the world. Iran use this tactic against its neighbors, who are their military equals, so plausible deniability isn't as effective to them.
While this tactic is Israel's main beef with Iran, they are not Iran only target. This is the reason why countries like the UAE started to warm up to Israel despite the ongoing Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Iran imperialistic desires scare them and they want to form an anti-Iran alliance.
Edited by nnokwoodeye1 on Apr 16th 2024 at 1:00:43 AM
The majority of Iranian drones and missiles downed were shot down by US, not Israeli forces with Jordianian and French forces also contributing.
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Iran also sees itself as the defender of Shia Islam which unfortunately is in need of defending in many places.
Edited by Gaiazun on Apr 16th 2024 at 12:10:24 PM
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RUSI published a short article on Iran's years-long effort to seed a Twelver Shi'a population in Syria, its "35th Province". The program ranges from humanitarian aid and other soft power activities that bring Shi'a messaging to Syrians (including perks like trips to religious sites in Iran), to outright incentivising conversion among the members of the Syrian militias it backs, to (most controversially) resettling Iraqi, Afghan and Lebanese Shi'as in the country – a move facilitated by an Assad regime law that allows the government to expropriate abandoned civilian property at will.
European Union leaders decided to impose further sanctions on Iran, specifically on companies involved in the production of missiles and drones, as a response to Iran's "aggression" and "unprovoked" attacks.
Summit chairman Charles Michel explained:
The US has hinted that it may impose its own new penalties in the coming days, including possibly the oil exports according to to the Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen
Link 2: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68842436
Iran showed off the Bavar-373 Air Defense Missile System. Tehran claims that it can be used to take down jets like the F-35.
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-middle-east-68830092?src_origin=BBCS_BBC
BBC live updates on what's happening in Iran with the air strikes.
Edited by Ominae on Apr 18th 2024 at 8:55:55 AM
A helicopter carrying the Iranian president, Ebrahim Raisi and the foreign minister had an accident and was forced into a "rough landing" somewhere in Northern Iran.
Rescue teams have been dispatched, but the situation is still unclear.
Edited by jawal on May 19th 2024 at 3:15:16 PM
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Apparently he hasn't been found yet. A helicopter crash in mountainous terrain during foggy weather seems like it'd lead to casualties...unless the "emergency landing in the fog" thing is substantially correct.
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dp: According to Swiss and German news, the helicopter's been found. No word on Raisi.
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So any updates?
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I saw some pictures claiming to be the site of the helicopter crash. Looks burnt and like a splat.
Chance of survival, given the foggy conditions, mountain terrains, and wild predatory animals... are near zero.
I hate to be the cynical one over Iran but even if we confirm Raisi dead, won't there be a new President since the real power in the Islamic Republic rests in the Supreme Leader (Ali Khamenei)?
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I imagine the main thing that will affect this is if it's an actual accident or if there's foreign influence involved.
Turkey has deployed an Akinci drone, which managed to locate the crash site through thermal detection, and it seems that the helicopter crashed into more than one piece.
Iranian rescue teams were dispatched, and claimed that they would reach the location in 30 minutes, but that was an hour and a half ago.
Iranian authorities said that the bad weather plus the difficult terrain (forests, mountains..etc) is slowing the search, particularly since it is conducted on foot.
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If the passengers were killed, it may take some time to find their bodies, but if they survived, we may hear something in the coming hours.
If the president is dead, the Iranian constitution dictates that the first vice president, the speaker of parliament, and the head of the judiciary will arrange an election for a new president within a maximum period of 50 days.
Edited by jawal on May 19th 2024 at 3:12:27 PM
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Listening to an OSINT watcher via Youtube in "The Enforcer". He's convinced that the way the Iranian chopper crashed, it's likely Raisi is killed on the spot.
Iran State Tv "No sign of life in the wreckage"
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It is official now. The president and all the passengers (including the foreign minister) are dead.
The Iranian deputy executive to the president announced Ebrahim Raisi's obituary and declared him a martyr.
Edited by jawal on May 19th 2024 at 5:28:07 PM
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Wonder who Khamenei is going to pick as his successor now.
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Word out that it's Muhammad Mukhbar. He's the Iranian VP.
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I mean as Supreme Leader, not president. Raisi was a likely candidate because he was much more of a conservative establishment guy than Rouhani was.
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The names of potential successors are kept secret by the Assembly of Experts in fear of assassination.
Even Raisi supposed succession was based on western speculations.
Khamenei, as far as I know, has never confirmed any potential successor, except for encouraging the Assembly not to consider his son Mojtaba in order to avoid accusations of nepotism.
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Whoever he is, he probably won't enjoy the same authority as Khamenei and Khomeini did, and will be either a symbolic position at best, or a facade to the Revolutionary Guard at worst.
The system of Wellayat al Faquih will face a real test after Khamenei.
Edited by jawal on May 19th 2024 at 6:31:55 PM
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Mukhbar's making the rounds in the news now.
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So uh does anything change. I though the Iran president is just a Puppet King and Khamenei is actually in charge?
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Puppet king probably isn’t the best way to describe it, the Iranian system in theory compares pretty well to a Constitutional Monarchy, with plenty of checks and balances as long as the Supreme Leader is a non-political father of the nation figure.
In reality the Supreme Leader is much more powerful than that, so you get a complicated dance when it comes to power and authority, especially on domestic matters.
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A report from the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) blames Israel for the strike on the Iranian consulate in Damascus and says it violated international law.
Reported via Guardian liveblog here
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