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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#701: Dec 26th 2022 at 6:32:06 PM


I'm very curious about who and what the hell is the Blue Man.

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#702: Dec 28th 2022 at 4:22:26 PM

[up]

Looks like we have a portal to the Shadowlands here, and obviously the Tremere had a hand in it. The most obvious suspect would be a powerful Wraith of some sort, but that level of Umbra could have anything in it so...

MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#703: Feb 18th 2023 at 10:46:20 AM

Hello! They've recently released a Primer on the World of Darkness, for those who're not yet familiar with the setting and gamelines.

EchoingSilence Since: Jun, 2013
#705: Feb 20th 2023 at 9:08:16 AM

Speaker is surprisingly ungremlin in this video.

Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Perpetually Confused
#706: Apr 23rd 2023 at 10:36:36 PM

New audiolog

Edited by Ghilz on Apr 23rd 2023 at 10:36:50 AM

EchoingSilence Since: Jun, 2013
#708: Mar 9th 2024 at 6:53:17 PM

Double and Necroposting to say new Hunter The Parenting

The_Reptile_ Since: Oct, 2010
#709: Mar 9th 2024 at 8:14:49 PM

I figured Fatigue wasn't the ghoul, but while Spit was my second choice, the fact he's apparently grabbed by a Malk caught me by surprise

ArcticDog18 Since: Mar, 2018 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#710: Mar 11th 2024 at 5:00:20 PM

So, who do you guys think is the culprit there? And, I guess I was just as wrong as everyone about Kitten and Grimmal’s status as friends despite the break-up.

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The-Azure-Star-Of-Orion Long time lurker from In a deep dark hole Since: Dec, 2023 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Long time lurker
#711: Mar 11th 2024 at 5:12:23 PM

there is potentially two culprits here one that killed Fatigue and the ghoul and I have a feeling the ghoul is Matilda as her attitude is someone that didn't get their fix of drugs.

Edited by The-Azure-Star-Of-Orion on Mar 11th 2024 at 5:12:44 AM

After 10 year plus years I have the confidence to be here. Let's give it EVERYTHING we've got! It's...PUNISHMENT TIME
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#712: Mar 11th 2024 at 7:16:15 PM

I'm gonna guess it's

Harry Jacket. I dunno, I guess he just seems too normal for this series.

Disgusted, but not surprised
TheGrayFox ....Phenomenal from A Lovecraftian fishing village Since: Sep, 2011
....Phenomenal
#713: Mar 11th 2024 at 11:06:26 PM

Either Git or Spit seem like the most obvious suspects.... We know Git's direct boss at the 99p store is a Camarilla agent, and it seems kinda weird the attacker would just shove him, but not Spit, into a closet. Spit meanwhile is acting erratic, the Ritalin thing could easily be a cover for ghoul withdrawal, and he's the only one not seen doing the blood test, instead shoving a goblet out of his hiding place and just saying it's his blood. And of course the two of them were the ones staying in the room with Fatigue in the first place.

Honestly, there's so much suspicious going on with them in particular that I wouldn't be surprised if it was a red herring.

There remains a foothold out of this mire — now climb.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#714: Mar 11th 2024 at 11:10:40 PM

My rationale for my pick is that Ghouls by necessity are good at blending in with regular people. With both of the Ghouls / Camarilla Agents we've seen so far (Polly isn't confirmed to be a Ghoul but it's likely) there was no real indication or suspicion that they were Ghouls up until the reveal.

It's also a possible reason for Harry's supposed pacifism. It's a convenient excuse to keep the enhanced strength that comes with being a Ghoul hidden.

Edited by M84 on Mar 12th 2024 at 2:13:47 AM

Disgusted, but not surprised
ArcticDog18 Since: Mar, 2018 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#715: Mar 12th 2024 at 5:05:41 AM

I am definitely sure it's neither Remold, Brok, Amanda or Grimmal. At least I can't accuse them for Fatigue's murder due to them being involved in the car battery lie detector (and Amanda being a bit fried at the moment). D, Marcus and Kitten are obviously clear.

I think there is a Ghoul and a Werewolf in the group. There are noticable scratch marks scattered throughout the chapterhouse. Spit is most likely suspect for being either, due to his withdrawal symptoms, suspicious delivery of his blood sample and Lord Fatigue (a specialist on Lycanthrope lore) helping him control himself. Ritalin perhaps was helping him with vampire blood withdrawal or was unknowingly helping him calm down his werewolf self he was completely unaware of. Git locked in was either done by the murderer, or perhaps Fatigue did it to save him before being butchered.

I came across some suggestions that Elise is the Ghoul, due to her stealing Git's keys and scattering his smokes. But, I have a reason to doubt that. First off, only senior members would possess keys to enter the Archive, where Occam was assaulted, and I doubt they would give keys to such important room to someone like Git. Secondly, due to her pale skin and Fatigue's murder being particularly gruesome, she would have no time to clean herself up and it would be way too visible on her. I have a reason to suspect either Waters or Remold for the assault, unless a theory that Fatigue was the Ghoul is correct and he did that only to save the chapterhouse and maintain the Masquerade. But, if that proves correct, then it would also confirm the idea that werewolf is inside the building.

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The-Azure-Star-Of-Orion Long time lurker from In a deep dark hole Since: Dec, 2023 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Long time lurker
#716: Mar 12th 2024 at 7:25:06 AM

Matilda is my choice as like I said in my last post her attitude is one of a person with a irritable need of a drug fix and how she views not getting paid is more important then death by ghoul she also moved from the security room to the kitchen which is near the archives.

After 10 year plus years I have the confidence to be here. Let's give it EVERYTHING we've got! It's...PUNISHMENT TIME
ArcticDog18 Since: Mar, 2018 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#717: Mar 12th 2024 at 11:56:45 AM

I might be wrong on some of my potential suspects. But, I realized why Harry couldn't be the Ghoul. First off, he spend most of the time between Occam's ritual and discovery he was assualted with Marcus lifting in the storage. There was no way he couldn't sneak in there. Secondly, after rewatching the episode, it confirmed my theory that only high ranking members could get into the Archive where Occam closed himself there. Brok, Remold's son and technically head of security, didn't have the keys to open the Archives. If he didn't have them, then definitely Git or Spit couldn't get in there (which might further prove Elise innocent despite her robbing Git). D opened the doors to the Archives because he took them from Remold.

That can mean two things. Either one of the senior staff sans Remold are the Ghoul (since he was more focused on fighting D and his "loyalists", or someone had to steal the keys from Fatigue or Waters to get inside.

Because of this, I narrowed down my suspects to Mathilda (her overall behavior) and Dr. Waters (her being unaccounted for for most of the episode, her Psychotronic studies and her actually taking cocaine, possibly hinting at her trying to cover up her withdrawal or substitute the blood for the time being. Git and especially Spit might be more likely to be perfect scapegoats.

I will become a great writer one day! Hopefully...
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#718: Mar 12th 2024 at 9:37:13 PM

I like how this episode started sneaking in the Werewolf side of the old World of Darkness even though the Kindred are still the main threat. Lord Fatigue's noted to be a Lycanthrope expert, and O'Tolley's is briefly mentioned.

And if a Werewolf is the actual threat here and not just a Ghoul, they are in serious trouble. Even Big D went dead serious in the first audiolog when describing how dangerous Werewolves are compared to Kindred.

Edited by M84 on Mar 13th 2024 at 12:38:41 AM

Disgusted, but not surprised
God_of_Awesome Since: Jan, 2001
#719: Mar 13th 2024 at 5:17:46 PM

Well, my current theory that I heard (here?) is that huddles on the ground there is a werewolf who recently underwent the change and also is a methhead, these two facts are not going well together. Fatigue cottoned on to the fact he was a lycanthrope and tried to nip that problem in the bud with kindness. The ghoul unknown also cottoned on to the fact and use methods to force the transformation and induce a berserk state in an effort to muddle the investigation.

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#720: Mar 13th 2024 at 11:39:47 PM

Its funny, I called this a game of Werewolf as soon as the building was locked down. It looks like I may have been a bit closer to home than I thought.

TheGrayFox ....Phenomenal from A Lovecraftian fishing village Since: Sep, 2011
....Phenomenal
#721: Mar 14th 2024 at 12:47:31 AM

So this might be just a meaningless background detail, but given the current discussion I noticed something on a rewatch: If you look at the ceiling in Occam's office at the start, there's a conspicuously-shifted ceiling tile with what look like claw marks on it.

There remains a foothold out of this mire — now climb.
SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#722: Mar 16th 2024 at 5:30:08 AM

I'm personally fan of theory that there is two red herrings that there IS werewolf, but it isn't Spit, and Spit is imbued hunter [lol]

Main evidence for that is that he still has his clothes on undamaged.

Edited by SpookyMask on Mar 16th 2024 at 5:32:26 AM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#723: Mar 17th 2024 at 8:53:49 PM

It'd be rather amusing if it turned out that the Ghoul had no direct involvement with the murder, and that said murder was committed by a Werewolf who had also infiltrated the Arcanum with the express purpose of killing their expert on lycanthropes.

Said Ghoul would be actually panicking because this murder threatens to blow their cover.

Edited by M84 on Mar 17th 2024 at 11:54:25 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#724: Mar 17th 2024 at 10:47:24 PM

I'm honestly guessing something similar to myself, that the murder is technically red herring tongue

3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Just a harmless giant from a foreign land.
#725: Mar 18th 2024 at 7:18:01 AM

Well I ordered my Great and Mighty Kevin Plushie, as well as a Moopsy plushie today

Edited by 3of4 on Mar 18th 2024 at 3:18:34 PM

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