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An expy is an unambiguous and deliberate copy of another, older character."

Note the word "another" and the words "unambiguous", "deliberate", and "copy". Those are the important words.

Here's your checklist:

  • "Unambiguous": There is no doubt, there is no room for arguing that they aren't.
    • If a plausible or convincing argument can be made that they aren't an expy, they aren't.
    • If the reasons for saying they are one are not convincing, they also aren't.
    • A character is not an expy only sometimes but not other times. They either are, completely, or they aren't, completely.

  • "Deliberate": Done with intent.
    • The resemblance is not accidental or coincidental. (For instance, being played by the same voice actor/actress is not sufficient to make an expy. Neither is a similar art style when they're both drawn by the same artist.)
    • Word of God helps a lot with this point, but if the other points are present strongly enough, Word of God is not absolutely required.

  • "Copy": A duplicate, an item made in imitation of another one.
    • The expy came after the character they're an expy of. If they both were created at about the same time, it probably isn't an expy.
    • The older character is never the expy, even if the other, later character is better known.
    • Superficial traits (like a hairstyle, choice in clothing, preferred fighting method) are not sufficient to make an expy; the copy needs to also fill the same role in the work and serve the same purpose within the story.
    • Major traits or characteristics being very different between the two characters is enough to make a character not an expy (for instance, the original is a demure Girl Next Door, the proposed Expy is a FemmeFatale — not an expy)

  • "Another": One other. Note the singular. It doesn't say "several". If the proposed expy combines traits, characteristics, or features of two or more other characters, they are not an expy of any of them.

If an entry fails to meet even one of those criteria, it is not an expy and should be removed.. Actual expies are nowhere near as common as many editors think.

If you want to link to this post in your edit reason, please do.

Here's the link to copy and paste: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13983140170A37263400&page=1#5

edited 27th Mar '15 6:53:01 AM by Madrugada

renenarciso2 Since: Sep, 2017
#1151: Apr 15th 2024 at 8:21:11 AM

Deleted the Captain Ersatz entry in Astro City and created a new Common Knowledge entry for the common misconception that Astro City characters are based directly on Marvel/DC characters

Edited by renenarciso2 on Apr 15th 2024 at 8:21:33 AM

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#1152: Apr 24th 2024 at 11:30:16 AM

Characters.How To Train Your Dragon Films Dragon Species has Expy entries that seem riddled with Monster Hunter Fan Myopia.

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Shadeblade11 (Troper Journeyman)
#1153: Apr 30th 2024 at 4:34:24 PM

[up] Looking at the page, superficial comparisons, especially with such blatant Fan Myopia and no Word of God to support it, are not examples. Just remove them.

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#1154: May 1st 2024 at 7:19:22 AM

Woof, that Pizza Tower entry is atrocious.

The character is just Advertising.The Noid. Claiming it's also an expy of Sonic is utterly pointless and inaccurate.

Cutting.

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SharkToast Since: Mar, 2013
#1155: May 23rd 2024 at 5:39:33 PM

Virtuous Character Copy:

The thing is Buffy is a hero. She has her flaws to be sure, but she's still a hero. Based off of the example, this Erica has her own flaws too. So these are two similar characters with differing flaws.

ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#1156: May 23rd 2024 at 7:56:28 PM

Yeah, buffy and Erika only have superficial similarities. And it's not as cut and dry as Erika being more virtuous than Buffy, as you pointed out.

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