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Matues Impossible Gender Forge Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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DeMarquis Since: Feb, 2010
#78: Jun 13th 2015 at 9:55:45 AM

What's his or her name has died once already, right?

Crinias from The Bleak Academy Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Mu
#79: Jun 13th 2015 at 10:23:49 AM

The bodies of angels are just there to latch their souls to the material world. When 82 was struck by that other angel's needle here, that was really more a temporal banishment than death. When Allison got the needle out, their soul went back into the body.

And yeah, I'm also hoping Allison appears out of nowhere to save 82.

Matues Impossible Gender Forge Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#80: Jun 13th 2015 at 12:40:23 PM

An Aeon's body is illusion. A convenient artifice that allows them to walk in a world they were never meant to see.

Which is why White chain said, "Don't send me back".

This isn't death so much as banishment.

A fun (possibly confirmed?) theory states that the number before each angel's name indicates how many times they've been reincarnated.

Funnily, for them reincarnation has a much more literal meaning: Not "return to life" so much as "incarnated in a body once more".

Crinias from The Bleak Academy Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Mu
#81: Jun 13th 2015 at 1:45:46 PM

I figured the angel's numbers were more like production numbers or something simialar. It'd be kinda awkward if we had to change the way we refer to White Chain from 82 to 83+ over the course of the story.

Matues Impossible Gender Forge Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#82: Jun 13th 2015 at 1:48:18 PM

Yeah, that's the interpretation I personally enjoy, but I felt like sharing the various ones.

Fan theories are so fun.

DeMarquis Since: Feb, 2010
#83: Jun 13th 2015 at 3:12:14 PM

So his/her name is literally "82 White Chain"? That's... really cool for some reason.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#84: Jun 13th 2015 at 3:29:53 PM

Well technically their name is 82 White Chain Born in Emptiness Returns to Subdue Evil. But everyone just calls them 82 or White Chain for short.

DeMarquis Since: Feb, 2010
#85: Jun 13th 2015 at 6:10:46 PM

How do you know that? Or are you yanking my chain?

Matues Impossible Gender Forge Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#86: Jun 13th 2015 at 6:12:21 PM

You can see White Chain's full name on this page.

Crinias from The Bleak Academy Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Mu
#87: Jun 13th 2015 at 6:13:24 PM

The first time it was mentioned was here.

Matues Impossible Gender Forge Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#88: Jun 13th 2015 at 6:15:40 PM

There too.

Forgot about that.

DeMarquis Since: Feb, 2010
Matues Impossible Gender Forge Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#91: Jun 16th 2015 at 11:43:18 AM

White Chain is crying from their wing-eyes.

Somehow that makes this whole series of events sadder and slightly more terrifying to look at.

edited 16th Jun '15 11:43:30 AM by Matues

Sivartis Captionless One from Lubberland, or the Isle of Lazye Since: Apr, 2009
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#92: Jun 16th 2015 at 9:57:49 PM

Officially agender
OK, I'm confused. Michael specifically denounced White Chain for identifying with a gender. I thought that all angels were supposed to be (male-coded, hence the other angels' use of "brother") agender, but if white chain is agender, then... why is Michael mad?

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Matues Impossible Gender Forge Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#93: Jun 17th 2015 at 5:54:38 AM

Genderqueer/Agender, mind. Could have aspects of both; not be a either-or thing.

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#94: Jun 17th 2015 at 10:16:36 AM

The impression I got is that gender is a human concept that angels are supposed to be above. So White Chain identifying as a gender—even agender—is seen as disgusting. Normal angels just are.

Sivartis Captionless One from Lubberland, or the Isle of Lazye Since: Apr, 2009
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#95: Jun 17th 2015 at 11:33:46 AM

..But agender means not identifying with a gender. Going by what Michael said, it's what angels are supposed to do. Before I read that post on the author's tumblr, I thought the whole problem was that White Chain identified as female.

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#96: Jun 17th 2015 at 12:41:08 PM

Well on this page is says beings of UN such as Angels are all considered male. (though it also says you can disregard this rule when making your own characters)

edited 17th Jun '15 12:42:26 PM by Moth13

Gaunt88 from Australia Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
#97: Jun 17th 2015 at 3:47:18 PM

I interpreted it as Michael condemning 82WC for caring about gender at all - they're always correcting people who identify them as male or female, while maybe angels are supposed to just ignore that.

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#98: Jun 17th 2015 at 4:04:40 PM

That's what I meant. White Chain, in identifying as agender, has acknowledged gender as a thing worth thinking about, even if the ultimate decision would be seen by a human as sidestepping the issue a bit. Normal angels aren't supposed to even bother.

DeMarquis Since: Feb, 2010
#99: Jun 17th 2015 at 4:49:04 PM

More than that, I think the real issue was that WC identified with Human. That was the far worse problem, it seems.

edited 17th Jun '15 4:49:18 PM by DeMarquis

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#100: Jun 24th 2015 at 11:02:10 AM

Look at all those angels!

So I guess the genderqueer thing is a kind of "both" rather than "neither" variety?


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