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Okay, every topic that has even remotely to do with the middle east keeps getting more general news put into it which removes focus from the original topic.

As such, I'm creating this thread as a general middle east and north africa topic. That means anything to do with the Arab Spring, Israel or Palestine should be kept to those threads and anything to do with more generic news (for example, new Saudi regulations on the number of foreign workers or the Lebanese elections next year, etc.) should be posted here.

I hope the mods will find this a clear enough statement of intent to open the thread.

Mod edit: The Israel and Palestine thread has been locked since October 2023. Discussion about Palestine and/or Israel remains off-topic for this thread.

Edited by Mrph1 on May 11th 2024 at 2:19:57 PM

kkhohoho Since: May, 2011
#2301: Sep 17th 2023 at 11:43:06 AM

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Yet even if all went according to planet

Which planet? Krypton?

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#2302: Sep 19th 2023 at 3:36:00 AM

I'm hearing there's conflict abrewing between Armenia and Azerbaijan?

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Risa123 Since: Dec, 2021 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#2303: Sep 19th 2023 at 3:39:39 AM

[up] There is a thread specifically for this conflict. Something like causaus conflict or whatever. You are in a wrong thread.

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#2305: Sep 22nd 2023 at 3:32:11 AM

New York Times: Residents See Signs of Crackdown on Dissent After Libya Floods. Aid workers and activists in Derna reported communications outages and rounds of arrest by security forces of Haftar's LNA regime, which controls the east of the country, although the UN denies that aid deliveries into the region has been hindered. Local residents, angered by years of mismanagement that contributed to the catastrophic dam collapse, also burned down the mayor's house in protest.

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RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#2306: Sep 22nd 2023 at 4:58:30 PM

Admittedly this is kind of a meta question but how come there are so few positive posts, like musing about culture. It's a general thread, not a politics thread

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#2307: Sep 22nd 2023 at 5:57:20 PM

These are just guesses but...

  1. It probably seems crass to many people to talk about positive topics when there's not only so much rampant and endemic misery, hypocrisy and other negatives in the region, but that they're becoming increasingly worse, both due to internal and external factors. That the external factors include the constant meddling and hypocritical foreign policies by Europe and the USA — which also happen to be where most of this site's user base hail from, even if we go by statistical estimates alone — most certainly doesn't help. You have to understand, even among the younger, more cyber-literate and open-minded generations, a lot of them despise the West to one degree or another, for one reason or another. And it's not always because of their respective countries' propaganda.

  2. This community is probably lacking in Middle Easterners and North Africans who are in the mood to talk positively about their respective home cultures. I, for one, have grown heavily disillusioned with my own country for a myriad of reasons, and furthermore my introversion and general lack of interest in actually learning about my country's history and culture beyond the broad strokes leaves me rather lacking as a source to ask about such a subject.

Edited by MarqFJA on Sep 22nd 2023 at 4:00:41 PM

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#2308: Sep 23rd 2023 at 2:27:01 AM

We could always talk about less touchy subjects, like national cuisines. Aish el Saraya >>> Umm Ali, fight me.

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Ominae (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#2309: Oct 17th 2023 at 11:33:56 PM

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/saudi-arabia-defected-colonel-fears-life-he-hunted-online

This one old by a few months, but I read on news on a Saudi defector from the Saudi General Directorate of Public Security (basically Saudi police).

(Ex-Colonel) Rabih Alenezi told British LEOs that a bounty was on his head due to being critical of Riyadh.

It started when he made a post online calling for fellow officers to concentrate on fighting crime instead of being called to spy on fellow Saudis. He's later called a traitor by pro-Riyadh groups.

Alenezi's being critical of Riyadh displacing the Howeitat tribe for the Neom megaproject.

Edited by Ominae on Oct 18th 2023 at 4:03:24 AM

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#2310: Oct 18th 2023 at 10:45:54 AM

You mean "criticial of the Howeitat tribe's mistreatment", right? Or at least, you placed a comma in the sentence where you shouldn't.

Edited by MarqFJA on Oct 18th 2023 at 8:46:39 PM

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Ominae (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#2311: Oct 18th 2023 at 4:03:49 PM

Yeah. Didnโ€™t realize that I made a typo somewhere.

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#2312: Oct 19th 2023 at 12:03:23 AM

Historic synagogue in Tunisia heavily damaged in rioting tied to Israel-Hamas war

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Ominae (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#2313: Oct 31st 2023 at 8:48:13 PM

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1719411211723252014

Houthis issued a video statement that they'r declaring war on Israel.

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#2314: Oct 31st 2023 at 9:05:38 PM

What is the status of the Yemeni civil war, come to think of it? Last I heard, they started negotiations in March with China as a mediator.

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Ominae (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#2315: Oct 31st 2023 at 9:13:35 PM

AFAIK it's suppose to hold after Tehran agreed to limit supplying the Houthis with them also visiting the Saudis.

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#2316: Nov 9th 2023 at 4:55:17 AM

Al Jazeera: Sudanโ€™s RSF closes in on capturing all of Darfur. Already there have been numerous reports of RSF fighters carrying out massacres, rapes and assorted atrocities against non-Arab communities in the region, echoing the conduct of their Janjaweed forebears a couple decades ago.

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#2318: Nov 30th 2023 at 7:21:44 AM

Reuters: Syria's delegation to COP28 in Dubai will be led by PM Hussein Arnous, not Assad. No reason has been given, but the UAE has an extradition treaty with France, where a court has issued an arrest warrant for Assad on war crime charges.

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HallowHawk Since: Feb, 2013
#2319: Nov 30th 2023 at 7:49:39 AM

Given the earlier mention that we shouldn't always talk politics in this thread, I have to ask: did composer Hideyuki Fukusawa get it right for assigning the musical theme below for a Turkish character in Super Street Fighter IV:

For context, the character who gets that theme, Hakan, is a Yagli gures practitioner who owns an olive oil company. I brought it up here since the only Turkey-related thread we have is for its politics and that Turkey is generally treated as a Middle Eastern country.

Edited by HallowHawk on Nov 30th 2023 at 7:56:44 AM

Ominae (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#2320: Dec 24th 2023 at 6:12:34 PM

Looks like some claims are being used by pro-HAMAS groups/analysts that Ukrainian contractors are killed in Gaza.

I've seen some of those reports.

PS - Not posting them since I don't like to be deemed responsible for spreading them around.

Edited by Ominae on Dec 25th 2023 at 12:06:10 PM

jawal Since: Sep, 2018
#2321: Dec 24th 2023 at 6:51:11 PM

NVM

Edited by jawal on Dec 24th 2023 at 5:08:31 PM

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Ominae (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#2322: Jan 7th 2024 at 6:48:03 PM

https://island.lk/red-sea-deployment-sln-still-studying-us-proposal/

Colombo's studying on whether the Sri Lankan navy is willing to join Operation Prosperity Guardian.

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#2323: Jan 11th 2024 at 5:30:08 PM
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Smeagol17 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#2324: Jan 11th 2024 at 10:15:06 PM

As I said, Houtis are not the best example of "finding out" given that they are being bombed for almost a decade.

Edited by Smeagol17 on Jan 11th 2024 at 9:18:57 PM

Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#2325: Jan 12th 2024 at 7:31:25 AM

The usual suspects are calling the US a warmonger for bombing Yemen, and Rep. Rashida Tlaib says that Biden is illegally bombing Yemen without Congressional approval (note: he's not, he just needs to tell Congress what he's doing). I refuse to give links because that would give clicks.

Matthew Yglesias: "Bombing people who disrupt international shipping is in fact the core function of the American military." I think I have to agree there.


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