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Hey, somebody explain to me what the Cluemaster does that the Riddler couldn't. If you mention "Stephanie Brown", I'll just say she could have been the Riddler's kid.

Nothing which is why he ditched the gimmick because unlike Riddler who has to leave Riddles. Cluemaster does not.

@ shiningknight - I have also seen those signs. Vertigo is publishing Astro City right now, and seems to exist mostly for reprinting past Vertigo properties, as well as the Wildstorm and ABC stuff that got absorbed into Vertigo. Basically, it's no longer a marketing focus for DC, but they seem to be keeping the imprint around as a grab bag for stuff that isn't DC canon.

And this is why Image has pretty completely filled Vertigo's niche.

Yep, Cluemaster was basically a poor man's Riddler, which meant he spent a lot of time in comic book limbo. That made it relatively easy for him to be given a teenaged daughter, Stephanie turned out to be an Ensemble Dark Horse, and that's about the most important thing about Cluemaster.

He should consider changing his battle name already, though.

considering vertigo is a place where comics that dont fit into the editorial attempt to make the DC universe hip and cool and young again, I can imagine it is very much dead man walking.

The main universe became darker and less hopeful than Vertigo, thus making Vertigo redundant and obsolete.

Obsolete? Hardly.

something like Fables would never get approved for mainstream DC because its too fantastical and out there.

same with Sandman. Its not whather its dark or not, its that vertigo tends to deal with the sort of stories where superheroes are pretty goddamn superfluous to the entire thing.

edited 12th Feb '14 6:58:58 PM by midgetsnowman

Don't Explain the Joke.

Moved to proper thread.

edited 12th Feb '14 9:30:07 PM by NickTheSwing

Whatever happened to the Paul Dini-Dustin Nguyen story for Detective 27? When and where will we actually see it, and what's it about? (Knowing Dini, 75% chances it includes Harley somehow).

New52 stuff goes in the DC Reboot thread. Thanks!

As I've mentioned before, I am old enough that I was already a long-time fan when Crisis on Infinite Earths happened, and remember the flames that Post-Crisis got. One fellow was so miffed at the changes made to Superman, and so vocal about it, that John Byrne wrote a character based on his appearance into the comics as Lex Luthor's toadie.

It just goes to show that one of the few differences Post-Crisis & the New 52 has is that the latter has the internet widely avaliable for people to complain on/praise mindlessly.

I came across letters pages once from Batman issues when Batman Year One was running monthly. And plenty of people were complaining about changing Batman's origin in those letters.

Few differences. You are fucking joking right.

Don't start this again. I mean in the broad terms of the line-wide reboot/relaunch, and you know it.

Do not make this another soapbox please.

I know what you mean and I still don't agree with you is the thing. But yes I don't want to fight so I will drop it here.

edited 13th Feb '14 3:17:31 AM by Saya1

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So I have to ask: when DC made Action Comics into a weekly, were the stories in there quality consistant? I ask because they're trying a year long weekly with Batman soon, and all I know of Action Comics from that time is the "Legend of the Green Flame" Superman/Green Lantern story that Neil Gaiman did for it that was rejected.

I enjoyed Action Comics Weekly, but they did it partially by not having year-long stories, but ones that would last a few weeks and then switch out so the artists wouldn't wear out. (Save the two-page Superman feature, that was more like a Sunday strip.) And even then they couldn't keep it up for a whole year. That's why it wasn't until 52 that they tried again.

The version of the Secret Six they did was particularly interesting, but I don't think that those characters ever reappeared.

edited 13th Feb '14 5:18:01 AM by SKJAM

I remember action comics weekly the stories within tended to either be decent or terrible depending on the story

I remember really enjoying the Nightwing stories in Action Comics Weekly, and Peter David's Green Lantern stories were pretty good, even if I thought his take on GL's "Without fear" bit was entirely too literal.

They say that Christian Bale and Michael Keaton are the best actors for Batman so far in the history of live-action Batman films, while Kevin Conroy is the best actor to voice him in either a live-action or an animated work. I don't know whether or not that is true, nor do I want to spark a heated argument against or for those statements, but what I do want to know is whether any of Catwoman's actresses (live-action or voice) have similar status.

edited 21st Mar '14 12:18:52 PM by MarqFJA

Many people swear by Eartha Kitt, but Julie Newmar also has her rabid fans. Kitt had a better voice for her, but Newmar's had more sexual tension with Batman (deliberately toned down for Kitt as it was the 60s and even the hint of mixed race relationships was taboo.)

I'm not arguing with you, but I never heard anyone hold Eartha Kitt up as their favorite Catwoman. The purring voice and rolled "r's" were part of her stage persona long before she ever played Catwoman. In my experience, fans of the 60's show usually consider it between Julie Newmar and Lee Meriweather, and forget Eartha Kitt entirely, though that may be because, as you say, she didn't get to flirt with Batman and thus lost what many felt was much of the fun of her character.

Back to Action Comics Weekly, I have been reminded that it had a Speedy solo story (shortly before he was retooled as Arsenal) which was A Very Special Episode about AIDS. Fair for Its Day, but Anvilicious and they had Roy randomly hook up with a woman for Have I Mentioned I Am Heterosexual Today?. It's an interesting time capsule, but not so good a story.