Turkish Politics

Move it to a more relevant thread then because I'd really like to know what in the world you're talking about...

US Politics thread.

Guardian: A new 6.4 magnitude quake just hit Hatay; no reports of new casualties yet, though the death toll from the last one has gone up to 47,000 at the latest count.

Another quake of magnitude 5.8 followed just a few minutes later.

These poor bastards just can't get a break.

Well, it's a region famous for earthquakes. The ancient city of Antioch used to be there, and it was constantly the victim of massive earthquakes that eventually let to its abandonment.

And Istanbul is in a middle of a faultline.

Many Turkish cities are near faultlines.

They would need Japanese civil engineers when they rebuild.

The country might even afford some of them if it hadn't been ran by a religious mafia boss for 20 years.

Okay but why Japanese engineers specifically?

They ought to know how to deal with making buildings that can withstand powerful earthquakes because Japan is prone to strong earthquakes (Japan's in the Pacific Ring of Fire, where earthquakes and/or volcanic erruptions are frequent).

Okay buy their are plenty of others around the world who do that as well. Japan isn't the only country(beside Turkey and Syria) who deal with earthquakes.

Yes, that. The Japanese have become experts in crafting high buildings or even skyscrapers that can absorb an amount of seismic vibrations. It wouldn't have saved everyone in such a massive earthquake, but many casualties would have been avoided if the houses and apartments hadn't simply collapsed on themselves, trapping everyone under the rubble.

As far as I know they are the most advanced because they are a combination of most advanced + most exposed to Earthquakes.

Same reason you would go see a Dutch engineer if you want to build a levee.

Edited by Bexlerfu on Feb 22nd 2023 at 4:20:23 PM

Or go to an expert, regardless of their nationality.

What.

This is already off topic so let's just stop here.

It seems that Douglas OG was taking that comment as some strange comment about the Japanese being racially skilled engineers, in spite of the explanation of "they're the most advanced in this area because of these specific reasons" and then just didn't want to let go.

Middle East Eye: Pro-Kurdish HDP will not field presidential candidate. Might be an indication that they (and the larger left-wing bloc) will throw their support behind CHP's Kiliçdaroğlu in the coming presidential election, which could be a significant challenge to Erdoğan (although the CHP isn't without its share of bad blood with the parties further left to it, as I understand it).

Also, not sure if anyone from Turkey proper still lurks here, but a reeeaally random language question: I learned recently that "Good morning" in Azeri is "Sabahınız xeyir", which is, uh, basically an almost wholesale loan from Arabic. Of course, both Arabic loanwords "sabah" and "hayır" are also present in Turkish, and if Duolingo is to be believed, "Hayırlı sabahlar (olsun)" is also a technically valid way to wish someone good morning. But that had me wondering: has the more common greeting "Günaydın" always been preferred in Turkey itself? Or did it displace the other greeting when Atatürk's language reforms in the '20s purged a whole bunch of Ottoman-era Arabic loanwords/phrases?

According to Sevan Nişanyan's etymological dictionary, 'günaydın' was coined in 1910s as an equivalent to French 'bonjour'.

Edited by amateur55 on Mar 24th 2023 at 1:43:12 PM

Erdogan's cancelling public appearances.

Two days before the upcoming general election on Sunday, opposition candidate Kemal Kılıçdaroğlu, who's ahead by a small but unmistakable margin according to Turkey's most reliable polling company Konda's latest poll◊, has accused Russia of election interference, after the release of an alleged deepfake sex tape led to Muharrem İnce's withdrawal from the election.

Kremlin has denied the accusation.

Edited by amateur55 on May 12th 2023 at 9:31:50 PM

Huh, the Sultan looks like he's going to lose?

I wonder if he'll allow that to happen.

If that happens, Heaven forbid if Turkey gets its own anti-government insurrection...

Seems like Erdogan is leading currently. And there have been reported instances of voter suppression by his cronies...

Clashing numbers due to state media deliberately favoring Erdogan. A runoff in two weeks is likely. There will likely be unrest if Erdogan gets five more years.

So, is the runoff confirmed? And how likely is Erdoǧan’s defeat if that happens? And what happens if Kılıçdaroǧlu wins without a parliament majority?

(thank god for the BÉPO keyboard lol)

Unofficially, yes — Wikipedia's article shows Erdoğan was 0.5% away from majority (approx 280,000 votes short out of ~54,725,000 total valid votes cast) and not enough ballots are outstanding to overcome it.

Edited by megarockman on May 16th 2023 at 2:29:59 PM