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Ominae (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#151: Jan 6th 2022 at 6:22:16 AM

AJ video I bumped into.

Has a nice summary of what's going on in Kazakhstan with the protests over increase of LPG prices. Does have a video of protestors doing a Saddam on Nazarbavey's statue.

Don't know where though. Could be Almaty.

Edited by Ominae on Jan 6th 2022 at 6:22:41 AM

Ominae (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#152: Jan 7th 2022 at 3:42:02 AM

Reports came in that Kazakh troops were given the green light to open fire at any protestors they see.

KnitTie Since: Mar, 2015
#153: Jan 7th 2022 at 5:17:23 AM

Am I the only one who thinks that these protests in the former USSR are similar to the Arab spring? Lots of discontent, lots of crackdowns, lots of blood, nothing is gained. Even Ukraine, who managed to replace Yanukovich, replaced him with a guy who was just as corrupt and incompetent, and now Zelensky is doing his best to also fit into the mold.

Edited by KnitTie on Jan 7th 2022 at 6:08:30 AM

Ominae (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#154: Jan 7th 2022 at 6:38:47 PM

I’m getting word of a Kazakhstan Liberation Front from Kazakh watchers and they may have been involved in an attack on a prison.

Someone compiled tweets on this. Gotta go look again.

Though I’m told that this could be staged. At least with their video manifesto.

Edited by Ominae on Jan 7th 2022 at 6:43:55 AM

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#155: Jan 7th 2022 at 11:01:53 PM

Saw that on Telegram. Obvious fake: they couldn't even bother to get a pronunciation guide for "Almaty" and "Aqtau". Not to mention going on a tirade about Lukashenka and freaking Yanukovych while barely mentioning anything about domestic matters.

Vlast: Former PM Karim Masimov, head of the KNB/UQK and close Nazarbayev ally, was just detained on treason charges. Guy was slated as Nazarbayev's successor before Tokayev got picked, which lends weight to the idea that the chaos is a consequence of intra-elite infighting between both camps, using the protests as a pretext.

Edited by eagleoftheninth on Jan 14th 2022 at 3:40:49 AM

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Ominae (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#156: Jan 7th 2022 at 11:52:52 PM

Some English-speaking Kazakhs are saying the same thing.


https://twitter.com/war_noir/status/1479474302609203204

https://twitter.com/MarQs__/status/1479483206013435909

Got compiled tweets on the supposed KLF and what's happening in Kazakhstan.

Edited by Ominae on Jan 8th 2022 at 12:02:17 PM

Ominae (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#157: Jan 10th 2022 at 2:57:32 AM

While CSTO is securing the airport and all vital places (Kazakh sources that there Nazaybayev groupies may try to do a take 2 at them), the Turkmen government announced that they're going to get rid of the Gate of Hell aka the Darvaza Gas Crater.

Ominae (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#158: Jan 11th 2022 at 3:24:46 AM

More updates on what's happening in Almaty:

SteamKnight Since: Jun, 2018
#159: Jan 11th 2022 at 3:47:53 AM

[up][up] Why do they want to get rid of the Gate of Hell? It's a harmless natural phenomenon and a nice tourist attraction. That one comes out of nowhere. Is there something I'm missing here?

Edited by SteamKnight on Jan 11th 2022 at 6:48:02 PM

I'm not as witty as I think I am. It's a scientifically-proven fact.
Ominae (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#160: Jan 11th 2022 at 3:51:10 AM

  • Environmental Damage
  • Negative effects to people living nearby
  • Wasting natural gas when they can be exported

Gurbanguly Berdymukhamedov gave these reasons.

SteamKnight Since: Jun, 2018
#161: Jan 11th 2022 at 3:55:58 AM

[up] Number one is bizarre coming from him (and hypocritical). Number two is also bizarre because I don't think there is anyone who live that close to it. So, it's number three, huh? What a shame. Not to mention all the profit from all the exported gas is only going to help him and his cronies instead of the common people.

I'm not as witty as I think I am. It's a scientifically-proven fact.
Smeagol17 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#162: Jan 11th 2022 at 8:50:14 AM

[up] And just when it became well-known enough to show up in an anime...

Ominae (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#163: Jan 14th 2022 at 3:09:46 AM

As some analysts predicted, the CSTO force lasted a week in Almaty and other big cities.

Ominae (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#164: Jan 19th 2022 at 8:16:42 PM

Unofficial videos captured by Kazakh protestors showed Kazakh soldiers disarmed by protestors.

But I've been told that these are just minor incidents anyway.

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CookingCat Since: Jul, 2018
#166: Jan 26th 2022 at 2:17:34 AM

[up] Probably hasn't been updated since the Soviet times.

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#167: Mar 4th 2022 at 9:14:52 PM

Eurasianet: Central Asia currencies feeling heavy pressure from ruble’s tumble.

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The damage wrought by international sanctions on the ruble is sowing varying levels of alarm in currency markets in Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, and Tajikistan, all of whose economies are strongly tied to that of Russia. Uzbekistan appears to be holding firm.

These reverberations come just as the countries, which include some of Russia’s most loyal strategic partners, were struggling to get back on track following the tumult caused by the COVID-19 pandemic.

In Kazakhstan, officials pleaded with the public not to succumb to panic, thereby possibly achieving the opposite result.

“We need to keep an eye on developments. At the moment, the exchange rate may be volatile,” deputy National Economy Minister Timur Zhaksylykov told a session of parliament on February 28, according to Vlast news website. “It is better not to adopt any hasty erroneous maneuvers.”

Earlier in the day, however, the National Bank announced that it was postponing currency trading on the local stock exchange for several hours as a precaution.

“These measures are temporary, and they reflect the high degree of uncertainty and the need to minimize pressure from external geopolitical factors on the foreign exchange market,” the regulator said in a press release.

It said the postponement could be rolled over in the event of persisting uncertainty.

Retail banks have been acting unilaterally to avoid a run by clients. One, Jusan Bank, stopped clients from withdrawing money from their foreign currency-denominated accounts. Another, the local affiliate of Russia’s largest bank, Sberbank, had by some accounts stopped clients from making any withdrawals at all, although the lender said otherwise in its communications with customers.

As of lunchtime on February 28, the National Bank had set the tenge at a rate of 467 to the dollar, up from around 430 in the middle of last week. In practice, it was all but impossible to buy foreign currency at most exchange offices in Almaty and Nur-Sultan, the country’s two main cities. By the end of the day, some in Almaty were exchanging a dollar for 500 tenge, however.

There was similar lack of opportunity for exchanging money in Uzbekistan. A representative for one of the country’s largest banks, Turon Bank, told Eurasianet that trading had been stopped as a temporary measure, but that it would resume on March 1.

Another Uzbek bank, Ipak Yuli, announced that it was for unstated “technical reasons” temporarily halting the sending of money via the Russian-owned wire transfer company Unistream. Transfers made via Sberbank have also been temporarily suspended, Ipak Yuli said.

Another major domestic bank, Hamkorbank, made the same announcement about payments made through the Sberbank online application last week.

Uzbekistan will be looking to its substantial reserves to give it strong protection against wild fluctuations. As of January 1, the Central Bank held 361 tons of gold worth an estimated $21 billion. It also held $13 billion in foreign currency reserves.

In Kyrgyzstan, as a rule of thumb, the som typically falls and rises in sync with the ruble. The impact of the dollar’s upward pressure in Russia was immediately noticeable from the rates that exchange offices in Bishkek were offering. At the start of the morning, some were offering to buy dollars around 93 som. By lunchtime, this had jumped up sharply to almost 100. The official rate was fixed at 89.1 to the dollar.

The Kyrgyz National Bank tried to play down the broader impact of sanctions aimed at Russia’s financial system.

“Most commercial banks in the Kyrgyz Republic are connected to the SWIFT system either through the National Bank or directly, so [there is no risk of] individual banks being affected because of Russia being disconnected from SWIFT,” the regulator in Bishkek said in a statement.

Gulzhan Abdrakhmanova, a 70-year-old pensioner from Bishkek, told Eurasianet that she sees grim consequences from this turbulence since all her family earn their income in som. For the most vulnerable in this import-dependent nation, devaluation will be a heavy blow.

“Every year, groceries and everything else are becoming more expensive, but pensions have not increased. My [monthly] pension is 7,000 som [$74],” Abdrakhmanova said.

The worst pain will be felt by people reliant on salaries earned by relatives in Russia.

A hospital worker in Bishkek told Eurasianet on condition of anonymity that her monthly salary is only 4,300 som ($45), which means that her husband has been forced to go and find work in Russia.

“I’m following the exchange rate because my husband is in Moscow. I’m very worried. It isn’t worthwhile for him to work there now. He got an eight-month contract doing plumbing work. It’s bad for him there, but he hopes things will normalize,” she said.

President Sadyr Japarov did little to temper nervous moods in a statement to the public on February 28.

“Our country is experiencing difficulties due to a significant increase in prices for fuel. The price of flour and other cereals has risen significantly. All of this is happening while our economy has yet to recover from the coronavirus pandemic,” he said.

As to the incipient currency death spiral, Japarov suggested citizens could buy gold with their som.

“The value of any currency is always decreasing. The value of our gold keeps rising. So those of our citizens who have money can buy gold from the National Bank in any amount, in bars weighing anywhere from 1 gram to 13 kilograms,” he said.

In Tajikistan, the somoni has lost 35 percent of its value against the ruble since Russia decided last week to recognize the sovereignty of two breakaway territories in eastern Ukraine. This is important because around one-third of the country’s economy is accounted for by remittances sent home as rubles and received in Tajikistan as somoni.

There is limited scope of buying and selling currency in Tajikistan even in normal times. In 2016, the financial regulator ordered the closure of all unauthorized currency exchange points. Since then, only banks have been able to perform foreign exchange operations. Any currency exchange transactions done outside banks are punishable by up to nine years in prison.

Banks are now still in theory prepared to sell up to $100 in hard currency at a rate of 11.30 somoni to the dollar. The black-market rate is closer to 11.50 to the dollar. Dollar rates have remained relatively stable over the past week. Households will be keeping a watch on any sharp changes.

Hamza, a 26-year-old migrant from Tajikistan now living in St. Petersburg, told Eurasianet that usually, after he has paid for his own costs – which include his work permit, rent and food – he is able to send 14,000 rubles back home every month. At the ruble-to-dollar exchange rate of around 75 at the start of this year, that converted into around $190. But the ruble was trading at well over 100 to dollar by the start of this week, and the slide may yet continue, so the value of Hamza’s remittances will fall accordingly.

“That money was enough to feed my two children, my wife and mother. Also, if there was an urgent need to buy clothes, it would cover that too. I wasn’t able to send more,” Hamza said.

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Galadriel Since: Feb, 2015
#168: Mar 4th 2022 at 9:32:26 PM

Is Russia still in Kazakhstan?

It seems a bit weird that everyone shrugged when they sent forces in under the guise of “peacekeeping” and shut off the Internet so no one knew what was going on, and after the invasion of Ukraine still no one’s talking about it.

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#169: Mar 4th 2022 at 9:50:05 PM

Nope, the CSTO peacekeeping force (3,000-ish troops total, just over half of which were Russian paratroopers) was withdrawn after a week. Nobody goes to this thread, but we covered it in the Russia thread.

(Also, seems that it's time to retire this meme.)


Anyhow, since we generally know a lot less about Tokayev's inner circle than the decades-long escapades of the Nazarbayev clan, it might interest everyone that the recent Credit Suisse leak shed light on some of the wealth that he's been stashing till now.

Edited by eagleoftheninth on Mar 10th 2022 at 6:13:51 AM

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Galadriel Since: Feb, 2015
#170: Mar 4th 2022 at 10:39:41 PM

Thanks, that’s at least a relief to know.

(And if that’s traditional Kazakh clothing in the meme, it’s super pretty!)

Edited by Galadriel on Mar 4th 2022 at 10:40:38 AM

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Ominae (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Ominae (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#174: Mar 16th 2022 at 1:17:39 AM

Serdar Berdimuhamedow is the new president of Turkmenistan.


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