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One thing I've noticed is that for all how the page for They Might Be Giants claims them to be the unofficial official band of this wiki, there's relatively few people on this site who seem to ever reference them.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Mar 28th 2023 at 7:19:52 AM

JethroQWalrustitty Since: Jan, 2001
#20876: May 12th 2024 at 10:59:11 PM

I really can't navigate the site to find stuff like formatting policy, and in my current predicament, where to propose a trope page to be split into a sub page for an abundance of examples (Cool Car in my opinion needs to have its own page for Live Action Film at the very least)

FSharp Useful Note Since: Jan, 2019 Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
Useful Note
#20877: May 12th 2024 at 11:08:07 PM

That sounds like something that would be handled by the too-long page repair thread. But they probably wouldn't want to split off a live-action film page since Cool Car is only about 150K characters.

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Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#20878: May 12th 2024 at 11:11:17 PM

[up][up]

  • Text-Formatting Rules
  • "abundance of examples" is not a sufficient reason to split a page, it needs to have the automated warning about being too long.

Edited by Amonimus on May 12th 2024 at 9:11:25 PM

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Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#20879: May 17th 2024 at 9:51:07 PM

Apparently having multiple accounts is now allowed, on conditions.

I really should read any time an Administrivia page is edited, because some changes return as a surprise.

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AnotherOnlinePersona under construction from Harlequin Forest Since: Dec, 2022
under construction
#20880: May 19th 2024 at 8:37:45 AM

It's a bit frustrating trying to contribute group images to Image Pickin' because there are a lot of images that seem okay at first, but then, after being resized to fit the standards of the website, become too small and/or make the group too hard to see for some.

Edited by AnotherOnlinePersona on May 19th 2024 at 8:39:38 AM

jandn2014 Very Spooky from somewhere in Connecticut Since: Aug, 2017 Relationship Status: Hiding
Very Spooky
#20881: May 19th 2024 at 5:15:59 PM

Only just now did I realize that Laser-Guided Karma always gets used in the context of "bad character has bad things appropriately happen to them" and very rarely vice-versa, even though it can go both ways. I suppose it's just easier to identify when it happens to bad characters?

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Reymma RJ Savoy from Edinburgh Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
RJ Savoy
#20882: May 19th 2024 at 5:48:12 PM

I never got what separate laser-guided from normal karmic endings.

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Excessive-Menace uwu from the Velvet Cage (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
uwu
#20883: May 19th 2024 at 7:50:30 PM

Karmic Jackpot seems to the trope that involves good things happening to characters who do good deeds, hence why Laser-Guided Karma only focuses on punishments.

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Noaqiyeum Trans Siberian Anarchestra (it/they) from the gentle and welcoming dark (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
Trans Siberian Anarchestra (it/they)
#20884: May 19th 2024 at 10:42:49 PM

[up][up] I think the idea is that Laser-Guided Karma is a kind of Chekhov's Gun mixed with Hoist by Their Own Petard - not only do evildoers have bad things happen to them, but the specific bad things are directly related to what they did in unexpected ways.

Edited by Noaqiyeum on May 19th 2024 at 6:43:10 PM

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Paperfly Buzz from On The Wall Since: Jun, 2022
Buzz
#20885: May 19th 2024 at 11:19:08 PM

If that's the case, the current image on Laser-Guided Karma isn't illustrative of the trope (the lightning has nothing to do with the cat)

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Noaqiyeum Trans Siberian Anarchestra (it/they) from the gentle and welcoming dark (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
Trans Siberian Anarchestra (it/they)
#20886: May 19th 2024 at 11:47:59 PM

I think it's meant to show Karma That Returns Immediately, and I don't know if I'd consider that another form of the same trope or not.

Edited by Noaqiyeum on May 19th 2024 at 7:48:10 PM

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Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#20887: May 20th 2024 at 3:28:37 AM

Was there a period where Umineko: When They Cry was believed to be a direct continuation of Higurashi: When They Cry and didn't have own page? I keep seeing examples like

Despite them being loosly-related but independant works that share the author.

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MacronNotes (she/her) (Captain) Relationship Status: Less than three
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#20888: May 20th 2024 at 7:15:50 AM

People just group them together when they share tropes because they are part of When They Cry. People like to group together even if continuity is just vaguely shared.

Edited by MacronNotes on May 20th 2024 at 10:23:57 AM

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Reymma RJ Savoy from Edinburgh Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
RJ Savoy
#20889: May 20th 2024 at 8:10:28 AM

They are very similar, even though the only story link is the implied backstory of two characters. They get grouped together because editors don't want them separated by half a folder (which is what alphabetic ordering results in). Besides When They Cry is considered franchise at least by the author, though I don't know if that has any legal meaning.

Edited by Reymma on May 20th 2024 at 4:11:15 PM

Stories don't tell us monsters exist; we knew that already. They show us that monsters can be trademarked and milked for years.
Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#20890: May 20th 2024 at 8:32:09 AM

The point is that those two have a chronic case of bad indentation, and the history shows these examples are very old and also were added during times where as YMMV page says the adaptations were more popular than the novels.

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animuacid Animu from Suginomiya district Since: Jan, 2024
Animu
#20891: May 20th 2024 at 1:49:54 PM

And another problem I've found about these: Higurashi has Index Bloat, as in being in more than 30 indexes. I've excluded it from Ecchi and HaremGenre.Anime And Manga, which others should I remove?

Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#20892: May 20th 2024 at 1:55:37 PM

[up] The rest make sense to me. If indexes for adaptations and creators are a problem, would feel like it'd be more of a wikitalk question.

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BlackFaithStar lmao from 🇲🇾 (Rule of Three) Relationship Status: Abstaining
lmao
#20893: May 21st 2024 at 9:54:21 AM

It's almost been 11 months since I made this wishlist query but I still hope it does happen. Once tropers' edit histories indicate which edits create pages, I intend to rearrange my troper page's list of work pages I've made by category rather than chronologically.

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Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#20895: May 22nd 2024 at 12:47:37 PM

[up][up] I list it both ways. Though within namespace categories, I still have them listed chronologically.

Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#20897: May 23rd 2024 at 4:57:49 AM

Wouldn't that be a Fille Fatale / Kidanova?

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MacronNotes (she/her) (Captain) Relationship Status: Less than three
(she/her)
#20898: May 23rd 2024 at 5:44:20 AM

^ Those tropes aren't about fanservice. They are attraction tropes that operate in universe.

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Reymma RJ Savoy from Edinburgh Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
RJ Savoy
#20899: May 23rd 2024 at 10:05:28 AM

It is quite odd how many of the most sexualised characters give no hint of being sexual in-story. It's partly to avoid making the audience jealous.

Stories don't tell us monsters exist; we knew that already. They show us that monsters can be trademarked and milked for years.
Demetrios Our Favorite Tsundere in Red from Des Plaines, Illinois (unfortunately) Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
Our Favorite Tsundere in Red
#20900: May 23rd 2024 at 10:09:05 AM

I just thought of this one. Didn’t the page image for Heroic Sacrifice used to be Yusuke saving the kid from the oncoming car? I like the caption for the new one, though. XD

Edited by Demetrios on May 23rd 2024 at 12:10:30 PM

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