RWBY General Discussion

Did the orphans do that?

If not I find that point kind of silly.

it's... an interesting interpretation of the scene... but I think it's a bit of an absurd blanket take to claim that the characters from Atlas depicted are themselves Colonisers.

And yes, needless to say, it's bad to stone people who are doing good things bc their families or... commanders? did bad things.

Edited by RandomFanOfStuff on May 11th 2024 at 11:15:49 AM

Throwing rocks at orphaned refugees is a dick move. That's not something anybody should have to explain.

Edited by MisterTambourineMan on May 11th 2024 at 7:23:16 AM

Since the cleanup thread was inactive for at least a year, I've restarted it with a new post here, if anyone is interested.

That is a completely different discussion. It's about what source is correct to put on the videos. It doesn't discuss whether the narration is objective, subjective or something else.

Except that isn't what the video clips are doing. JC is telling people what their personal interpretation is of the writers' intentions and acting like that interpretation is the only valid one possible. They then proceed to complain about the implications of their own personal interpretation. They're practically troping themselves, not RWBY.

If you want to create an actual, objective Kick the Dog entry from the animatic, you take — from the animatic itself, not a youtuber's reaction video — a clip of the Vacuans stoning the refugee orphans and other characters intervening. You call it something akin to "Vacuans stoning orphaned refugees" and summarise the scene something like this: "Orphaned refugees from the fallen Atlas and Mantle find themselves being stoned by angry Vacuans who resent their presence."

A video shows an objective trope through the canon visuals and the canon dialogue in the scene. That's what the other uploaded videos do, so why would the animatic be any different?

The only thing you can trope from JC's videos is JC. Personally, I think they're examples of Caustic Critic: they are an example of a Youtuber ripping apart a work for entertainment.

Edited by Wyldchyld on May 11th 2024 at 3:38:20 PM

With Rooster Teeth being shut down and all on May 15, I wonder what Warner Bros. is going to do about the RWBY-related videos (including the V9 animatic) on the RT website.

Also, do you guys think the potential tenth volume might be adapted into a novel if it's possible?

Edited by gjjones on May 11th 2024 at 11:43:12 AM

I think I've heard that they're going to archive previously RT exclusive videos on the Youtube channel

Also the crew have mentioned that RWBY has a future, so it's possible the show will continue

Because JC brings up why the trope is used in the first place and discusses the trope's use.

Edited by Psyga315 on May 11th 2024 at 8:47:08 AM

There's actually a dedicated fan archive of everything Rooster Teeth they can manage to save before the site's gone, including all released RWBY content.

Hopefully, it might not turn into a Keep Circulating the Tapes situation after all. I could be wrong.

Edited by gjjones on May 12th 2024 at 3:01:55 PM

Problem is neither group are really "villains" in that situation. One group is doing a very unpleasant thing, but this is more tensions among a group of people who ultimately need to come together.

The villains are an evil antagonistic fore who usually has to be defeated by the heroes, which is not the case here.

Edited by Gaogaigar54 on May 12th 2024 at 12:59:47 PM

JC is choosing to interpret those scenes as those specific tropes. That is not objective troping. All she's doing is telling us what her personal interpretation is, treating her personal interpretation as canon and telling people to interpret it the same way as her.

An objective observation about real life is that, when an enormous amount of refugees get dumped in a location without advance warning or planning (and even with planning), it triggers a huge amount of tension between locals and refugees and that often spill over into altercations. If you dump refugees into an already struggling location, the tensions get even worse. And if you do it in locations where the refugee and local populations already have tense history, it can escalate further.

An objective observation about the show is that it has been telling us for years that tensions between Vacuo and the rest of the world exist. An objective observation about both the fandom and hatedom is that it has been repeatedly stated over years that CRWBY needs to portray those tensions once the story gets to Vacuo. This sentiment increased as a result of the novels, where the tensions were built into the storyline and set the bar for the show long before the show itself reached Vacuo. An objective observation about the animatic is that it does display tensions between Vacuans and the refugees based on what the show and novels have already set up, and in line with things that have been seen in real life between refugee camps and local populations.

Where it starts becoming subjective is when we start talking about the writers intentions for showing us these specific scenes. Saying these scenes exist solely to portray Vacuo as the villains is subjective. It's a personal opinion. There's nothing objective about speculating intention and then treating that interpretation like it's equal to Word of God.

Edited by Wyldchyld on May 12th 2024 at 4:53:26 PM

I can agree with Gaogaigar54's observations about the tensions between the refugees and locals (in this case, the Atlesians and the Vacuans), since they're not villains in the first place.

Also, we can use the YMMV discussion thread in addition to the RWBY cleanup thread to discuss any potential YMMV tropes on this series.

Edited by gjjones on May 12th 2024 at 5:31:38 AM

So I’m guessing there isn’t a way to watch RWBY Beyond?

Official way, doesn't seem so currently.

Unofficial way... I wouldn't be surprised if archive.org has them archived.

Edited by jouXIII on May 17th 2024 at 3:17:30 PM

The company is closed, so watching it unofficially doesn't bother me. That it's been saved at all is lucky. As we just saw all of Rooster Teeth's content was just shut down with no archive - if not for people unofficially storing and archiving it this would all be gone, lost media, kaput.

archive.org pretty much got everything RWBY related. All the episodes, all the spin-offs (including Fairy Tales and Grimm Campaign) and all the supplementary material (Rewind, Behind the Scenes, etc.).

If you want to watch Beyond, it's listed under the main RWBY show in the pull down menu list. So after Volume 9 comes Beyond. That's the same structure as the old website had.

The main show's nine volumes are also still available on Crunchyroll. That doesn't include Beyond. Ice Queendom is there as well. Nothing else is, however.

CRWBY and other RT staff were encouraging the fandom to archive everything they could by the end. They were aware of the archive project and seemed to be supporting it — as openly as they could get away with, anyway.

Edited by Wyldchyld on May 22nd 2024 at 11:15:00 AM

Speaking of Beyond, I'm surprised we don't got recap pages for those.

There's still more amazing RWBY fanwork

"Ruby ran through winter, spring, and fall to find Summer."

Highlights:

• both parts 1 and 2 of Red Like Roses fitted to the concept from the Red Trailer
• Ruby being cool and emo with her hood down
• an emotional scene transition
• pre-Volume 1 Beowolf designs
• Crescent Rose as a freaking snowboard
• Ruby using the blade on the bottom of her scythe
• Summer Rose cameo
• character fighting their hardest to make it through waves of enemies
• Ruby Flash Step'ing her enemies

What is meant when people say "Ruby's old fighting style is back?"

I have my idea, but I want to hear others. It's just Ruby using her Semblance more and being acrobatic? Honestly I don't recall a lack of that, but, like with how Weiss doesn't do as many ballet moves, it's just hard and costlier to animate in later volumes during fight scenes in areas that aren't big and open. I feel like Ruby used her Semblance plenty in Volumes 5 through 8.

I really do like the shot here at 1 minute 12 seconds in. The cocky little smirk Ruby gives tells you this girl knows she's the shit and it's paying off in a big way. She just came back from what was essentially the dead and decided to 1 v 1 a monster right in front of her. The last time we saw this happen, Ruby was overconfident and it nearly cost her. This time she was a step ahead. The Cat stops her hit and is about to parry - Ruby just thwips and has him point-blank a second later. If this has been a human opponent she'd have just flatlined the guy right then and there.

Edited by FOFD on May 22nd 2024 at 2:47:07 PM

I think it's most likely tied to the idea that, in order to conserve budget and animations, she was essentially "locked out" of her OG fighting style.