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@Ham

As nice as that would be, Status Quo Is God.

"You are never taller then when standing up for yourself"

I am actually looking forward to this new event.

...I think I am one of the only people hoping that they bring The Sentry back.

edited 12th Jul '12 6:24:04 PM by NickTheSwing

Yes

Quicksilver absolutely LOATHES his father, and can barely work with him to save Wanda. And Wanda is mostly forgiven by the Avengers except Vision because Doom said he manipulated her.

So, Rick Remender said he'd be killing eight established characters this year (and introducing about twenty-two new ones). So far, he's killed...

• Jamie Braddock - Uncanny X-Force #23
• Hybrid - Venom #15
• Scream - Venom #15
• Fantomex - Uncanny X-Force #27
• Gateway - Uncanny X-Force #27
• Death Adder - Venom #20

Any guesses on who the other two might be? I'm guessing the Crime-Master might be one, as he's currently the Big Bad in Venom, and the other will probably be either one of his men or one of the new Brotherhood of Mutants. Blob-295 in particular seems expendable, especially if the Phoenix wholly or partially reverses M-Day (meaning Blob-616 could return). If he wanted to be really ballsy, he'd kill Betty Brant (currently hostage of the aforementioned Crime-Master), but I doubt it. I'm not counting Ant-Man (back an issue after he died, not that that stopped people bitching) or Captain Mar-Vell (came back from the dead, then went back to being dead again two issues later).

Also, even though we no longer need to fear the dreaded reboot, this is still hilarious, particularly the Wolverine Publicity jokes. I love this blog, unfortunately it hasn't updated in almost a year.

edited 16th Jul '12 4:10:01 PM by HamburgerTime

Well Ant-Man is a robot double working for the other robots so I do think he is dead.

And didnt he kill Toxin's host Pat?

That was apparently just confirmed in a liveblog explaining how Blackheart got the symbiote. It wasn't depicted on-panel, so I'm not sure it counts.

@Dead

Wait...which Ant Man?

"You are never taller then when standing up for yourself"

Eric O'Grady. He was killed in an issue of Secret Avengers, brought back in the next, and appears to now be under the control of the guy who makes Deathloks.

In other words: The only Ant Man I ever liked. =(

@Greg

Pffft. Scott Lang is Best Ant Man.

If it had turned out this his Back from the Dead was a fake out, it would have ruined Children's Crusade before I even got a chance to read it.

"You are never taller then when standing up for yourself"

Pym is the best Ant Man. He's all about the Science and Adventure. And dont even get startedon the slap. Yes it was bad. But he hit his wife once under duress and a mental breakdown. Both Reed and Peter hit their wives. Hell Peter hit MJ when she was pregnant. But they dont get shit. Because Millar had to bring it back as Pym's entire character in the Ultimate Universe.

I like Pym. I really do, he was awesome as The Wasp in Might Avengers, maybe my favorite Avengers team. Eric O'Grady, however, is the most entertaining Ant Man. He even hit Scott Lang's daughter with a bus!

Oh no I liked O'Grady too. I just liked a Mad Scientist doing good soley because of his love for his friends and family a little better. Because honestly Hank should have been a Mad Scientist. And evil villain. But then he fell in love and tried to be good. First with his first wife, then with Janet.

This seems like a good questions for Marvelites: is Secret Wars worth checking out?

I've heard that it's shallow and plotless, but I've also heard that it's a classic. I suppose the two aren't mutually exclusive.

The original is a lot of fun. Shallow and pointless? And how! It was a blatant attempt to sell action figures. A money-grab using all their most popular characters. But it was also really fun to read. It's well-written and thoroughly enjoyable.

The sequel, on the other hand, is kinda crap. Really stupid, and much less fun.

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Hi, I am relatively new to the Marvel Universe and specially to the Avengers*

so I have a question. Was Vision always such an ass? I understand he doesn't demonstrate emotions well, but I thought he was a nice dude overall. But the way he talked to Wanda was pointlessly cruel. Yeah, I understand he is angry and doesn't want to be with her anymore. Still, he was her husband and she was enduring the lowest point of her life. Throwing everything on her face like he did was completely unnecessary and it shocked me 'cause I was under the impression he was better than that.

No, he's not normally such an ass. But I'd still say his reactions to Wanda recently are in-character. She killed him. She made She-Hulk rip him in half. He was her husband, he loved her, and that was what he got for his it. It really hurt him, emotionally.

So it makes sense for him to harbour some serious resentment towards her.

But he still caught her in the latest issue, when she was falling.

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To be fair, she had gone mad with the revelation about their sons.

Which raises another question: do Billy and Tommy count as Vision's sons still? God if Joans ever comes back it's going to be really awkward.

edited 19th Jul '12 1:22:57 PM by LMage

"You are never taller then when standing up for yourself"

Well Billy and Tommy still consider themselves Wanda's son's. So I'd guess they'd consider original Vision their father. Also Doom even said he made Wanda do all that shit as only Doom could do it.

Yes it looks like Billy, and Kid!Loki are on a Team together with... a teenage Miss America? But still. Kid!Loki survives past Ji M!

edited 19th Jul '12 2:06:50 PM by Deadpoolrocks

The problem aren't the feeling themselves, but how Vision exposed them. He exposed everything Wanda had done wrong with with such hateful accusatory tone while she wasn't even trying to defend herself, but only meekly staring down. And then he expelled her, with no opening for argument, from the place she once called home which, btw, he had no right to do (he doesn't own the place and Wanda had been invited).

He kicked her while she was down, and that is what baffled me. Yeah, his resentment is perfectly understandable, but even if he feel he can't have a honest talk with her, the most logical thing to do would be ask(not order) to be left alone and then avoid her himself (instead, again, ordering her to do so). He has every right to be unable to even stay in the same place as her. He didn't have the right to kick her off other people's house as he did.

Furthermore, he is her husband. It is kind of his duty to support her when she is down. I understand this is most likely impossible right now, but kicking her down some more is only cruelty. Not to mention that, as husband and wife, they can't really avoid having to talk a couple of times more. Even if to sort it as "ex" husband and wife. Not to talk about their "children", which are Avengers right now.

Also, he was a rude to Miss Marvel. "Mot of her concern"*

my ass. She has as much right to the mansion as he has, so it is entirely on her place to object he expelling her guest.

Nothing changed between then and now so, yeah, Billy and Tommy are still Vision's sons. I a weird magical way, at any rate.

Billy and Loki are on the same team? Where this is happening? Have the Joung Avengers done anything since Children's Crusade?

edited 19th Jul '12 2:10:05 PM by Heatth

In the new Marvel Point 1 that showcases new stories/series. It will have Cable, Sam-Nova, Ant-Man (probably Lang) and what looks like a new Young Avengers with Kid!Loki, new Miss America, and Wiccan. And no they haven't done anything since Children;s Crusade which took place before Spider-Island and Fear Itself except the very end

Nope, and there is no "Young Avengers" anymore, what was left of them got absorbed into the New Avengers.

"You are never taller then when standing up for yourself"

I meant the cast. Have they been anywhere since Children's Crusade? I haven't read most of the less important comics, but I am fairly certain I haven't seem any of them in the New Avengers (or the regular Avengers, for that matter).

A not yet released issue, you mean? Where can I find that teaser?

http://ifanboy.com/articles/marvel-now-point-one-enter-the-young-avengers/

I think it's going to be written by the guy who is doing Ji M right now as well.

Kieron Gillen. Who is easily one of the absolute best writers in the industry. Journey Into Mystery is implausibly good. Smart, hilarious, thought-provoking, tear-jerking, awesome - honestly, the series is just one big Crowning Moment creator. Whether it's Santa Volstagg, hel-puppies, Loki tearing up a caption box with it actually making complete sense in context, or the most recent issue with Leah dying to go back to being Hela's hand, it's an absolutely incredible series. (Highlight issues: 630, which is one of the most gorgeous stories I've ever read, and 632, which has Santa Volstagg and hel-puppies in the most adorable story ever.)

Gillen's also been killing it on Uncanny X-Men, with the best run the series has had in 20 years.

He also wrote the criminally under-rated S.W.O.R.D. series, which had Lockheed kicking ass, and the original Death's Head at his Transformer-hunting size.

There was the thoroughly enjoyable Dark Avengers: Ares mini. He did an excellent job on Generation Hope. He did the ridiculously good Captain America and Batroc one-shot, which gave probably the best analysis of Batroc anyone has ever done. The Beta Ray Bill: Godhunter mini was pretty decent, though not up to his usual quality. And he also did the really cool X-Men Origins: Sabretooth one-shot.

Gillen is amazing. Anything he does is worth buying. If he's going to be doing a series with both Kid Loki and the new Miss America - who I loved in Vengeance - then I am totally on board with it. It will be awesome, hilarious, and moving.

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