This is the sticky thread for questions related to the namespacing of works. As in, "which is the right namespace for this work?"
Ideally, questions already answered are covered on the Namespace Map. If you know a namespacing issue has already been resolved, but it is not yet documented on the Map, please update the Map.
If you want to suggest a new namespace, don't post here, but in Suggesting New Namespaces
instead.
For easier reference, I've numbered my questions:
- #1: Where do animated films go? They seem to be distributed rather inconsistenly over Film/ (Puss In Boots, Whats Opera Doc), WesternAnimation/ (Disneys Anne Frank, Snow White), Anime/ (Princess Mononoke) and Disney/ (Snow White And The Seven Dwarfs, Der Fuehrers Face).
- #2: There are a few songs which have their own pages ("Pirate Jenny"). Where do they go – to Music/ or to Literature/ ?
- #3: Where do composers go – to Music/ , or are they to be treated like other creators, which hitherto stay on Main/ ?
- #4: Where do Talk Shows, Game Shows and News Broadcasts go? I guess you could call these formats Live-Action TV but they're not really "TV series", as in Series/.
- #5: Am I right in assuming that Puppet Shows go to Series/ ?
- #6: What about “hybrid shows”, i.e. segment shows that incorporate both live action and animation? (e.g. Die Sendung Mit Der Maus)
- #7: Where to put picture books? I am thinking of books like Der Struwwelpeter and Max and Moritz — books that are really not complete without their illustrations. They are not (yet) ComicBook/s, but to sort them under Literature/ feels a little unsatisfactory too.
- #8: The rule is to put works into the namespace of their original medium. However, once in a while there is a work which is little known in its original medium, and almost exclusively known by its adaptation. I’m thinking of Das Boot, for example: there's a novel, but it is almost exclusively known by the Petersen movie.
- #9: Should One Book Authors who are invariably tied to a single work be treated as a creator or a work page rather?— Currently, we have Samuel Pepys and Herodotus, but shouldn't these pages be at Literature/The Diary of Samuel Pepys and Literature/The Histories rather?
- #10: There are cases where I’m unsure whether to use the English or the original title. Is there are hard rule that determines whether Der Ring Des Nibelungen goes to Theatre/Der Ring des Nibelungen or Theatre/The Ring of the Nibelung? Even Wikipedia uses the original title.
I'd be grateful for input.
Edited by SeptimusHeap on Nov 9th 2023 at 8:15:08 PM
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I propose "Namespacing works" or "Which namespace this belongs to?"
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to the latter suggestion
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Hollering for this thread to be renamed per Amonimus' suggestion
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Title changed with grammatical corrections made.
Edit: Made a smaller change by changing "this" to "this work" to clarify the thread's purpose.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Apr 10th 2024 at 12:32:19 PM
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The Draftsman of Doom
Where should we move LetsPlay.The Hohenzollern Empire?
It's an After-Action Report. Should we move it to the Fanfic namespace?
Feels good, don't it?
Never Found
I've been working on a sandbox for a game #No_Case_Should_Remain_Unsolved. At 40+ tropes, I think the page is ready to go live, but I'm not sure whether I should put it in Video Game or Visual Novel namespace. The developer's site lists it as a Visual Novel and it's tagged as one on Steam, but can it be considered one by our rules? I've never played visual novels before and the definition on the Visual Novel page is kinda confusing. Help?
(If you wanna know what the game is like, here's the link to the playthrough I've been using)
Am I a weirdo?
Fanfic is probably the closest fit.
The screenshots look a lot like what I'd consider to be Visual Novel gameplay. If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and calls itself a duck...
The Draftsman of Doom
Thanks Normal. I'll get to the switch to Fanfic.The Hohenzollern Empire hopefully tomorrow.
Edited by SkyCat32 on Apr 14th 2024 at 8:09:49 AM
Feels good, don't it?
Never Found
Then that's what I'll go with. Thanks!
The Draftsman of Doom
I am on mobile, RN. Can someone else move The Hohenzollern Empire to Fanfic.The Hohenzollern Empire due to technical limitations?
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Noted.
Edited by SkyCat32 on Apr 14th 2024 at 7:42:14 AM
Feels good, don't it?
One-Track Mind (he/him)
Requests like that are for this thread
WebAnimation.Red Vs Blue Restoration was released through streaming platforms.
Seems like it should be WesternAnimation.Red Vs Blue Restoration, right?
Friends forevermore
It's still Web Animation, because it was created as such, even if it was ultimately released on a more standard platform than the usual for Rooster Teeth.
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Hazbin Hotel was moved to WesternAnimation/ when Amazon picked it up, though, so Red vs. Blue: Restoration should also be moved.
Also, I believe WebOriginal.Our Drawings should be moved to WebAnimation.Our Drawings.
Keet cleanup
If it was developed as web animation but not released as such, I might note that under What Could Have Been, but I wouldn't categorize the page as web animation.
That seems right for Our Drawings.
Edited by Twiddler on May 10th 2024 at 7:43:43 AM
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Do we have a precedent for concert films like Taylor Swift: The Eras Tour (Taylor's Version)?
Judging from Concert Film and its examples, that'd be Film/.
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Thanks!
Now I'm wondering about the overlap between Concert Film (trope) and Filmed Stage Production (trivia), as it doesn't seem to be a clear music/drama split.
But that's a question for another thread.
Angry babby
I launched Filmed Stage Production without thinking much about Concert Film at all. But I think the difference is that Filmed Stage Production is usually just a recording of works that would be in the Theatre/ namespace and not necessitate a split, and since it's meta, it belongs in Trivia. I don't think most concerts are tropeworthy enough to get pages (as opposed to the music itself) unless they were designed to be filmed in the first place.
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
Bumping this
since I still stand by everything I said there, and the discussion about it almost immediately stalled.
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