This is the sticky thread for questions related to the namespacing of works. As in, "which is the right namespace for this work?"
Ideally, questions already answered are covered on the Namespace Map. If you know a namespacing issue has already been resolved, but it is not yet documented on the Map, please update the Map.
If you want to suggest a new namespace, don't post here, but in Suggesting New Namespaces
instead.
For easier reference, I've numbered my questions:
- #1: Where do animated films go? They seem to be distributed rather inconsistenly over Film/ (Puss In Boots, Whats Opera Doc), WesternAnimation/ (Disneys Anne Frank, Snow White), Anime/ (Princess Mononoke) and Disney/ (Snow White And The Seven Dwarfs, Der Fuehrers Face).
- #2: There are a few songs which have their own pages ("Pirate Jenny"). Where do they go – to Music/ or to Literature/ ?
- #3: Where do composers go – to Music/ , or are they to be treated like other creators, which hitherto stay on Main/ ?
- #4: Where do Talk Shows, Game Shows and News Broadcasts go? I guess you could call these formats Live-Action TV but they're not really "TV series", as in Series/.
- #5: Am I right in assuming that Puppet Shows go to Series/ ?
- #6: What about “hybrid shows”, i.e. segment shows that incorporate both live action and animation? (e.g. Die Sendung Mit Der Maus)
- #7: Where to put picture books? I am thinking of books like Der Struwwelpeter and Max and Moritz — books that are really not complete without their illustrations. They are not (yet) ComicBook/s, but to sort them under Literature/ feels a little unsatisfactory too.
- #8: The rule is to put works into the namespace of their original medium. However, once in a while there is a work which is little known in its original medium, and almost exclusively known by its adaptation. I’m thinking of Das Boot, for example: there's a novel, but it is almost exclusively known by the Petersen movie.
- #9: Should One Book Authors who are invariably tied to a single work be treated as a creator or a work page rather?— Currently, we have Samuel Pepys and Herodotus, but shouldn't these pages be at Literature/The Diary of Samuel Pepys and Literature/The Histories rather?
- #10: There are cases where I’m unsure whether to use the English or the original title. Is there are hard rule that determines whether Der Ring Des Nibelungen goes to Theatre/Der Ring des Nibelungen or Theatre/The Ring of the Nibelung? Even Wikipedia uses the original title.
I'd be grateful for input.
Edited by SeptimusHeap on Nov 9th 2023 at 8:15:08 PM
I hope this is the correct thread for this, but i wanted to say that Duolingo should go into website instead
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I really don't think Roleplay is the right namespace for NoPixel, it's a livestreamed RP server. We have several of those and they're all in the more appropriate Web Video namespace.
It's not a public server anyone can join, there is literally no difference between it and something like Dream SMP and I have no idea why it was moved from Web Video to Roleplay.
It technically has a public spinoff, but like, so does SMPEarth and that doesn't make it not Web Video?
Edited by Serilly on Nov 1st 2023 at 9:50:31 AM
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One-Track Mind (he/him)
It looks like the scope of this thread has changed since it was first created. Maybe the thread's title should be changed to reflect this? I wouldn't mind if it isn't for whatever reason.
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Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph
What would be a better name for this thread? And if the thread name gets changed, the OP really should be updated too. It reflects how things were back in 2012, back when many work pages were still in Main/ (and so were creator pages).
Edited by Lymantria on Nov 9th 2023 at 7:46:32 PM
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the Retromancer
"What's the Namespace for this Work?"
And yes, the pin is cluttered with irrelevant questions.
Edited by Amonimus on Nov 9th 2023 at 10:50:13 PM
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One-Track Mind (he/him)
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To be clear, "What's the Namespace for this Work?" is what you're proposing as the new thread title, correct?
the Retromancer
What else could that mean when the topic is changing the thread's name.
Waffle Cat (she/her)
I too support modifying the OP to be more in line with current queries. One proposal would be to highlight less-used namespaces and to note which ones are deprecated.
I also wanted to ask what would be the best namespace for a documentary with only narration, animated sections, and the odd photograph. I'd say Western Animation/ since it's American but I want some feedback.
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Does anyone else have any thoughts on NoPixel? It's been driving me crazy because it's the only work of its kind to be in Roleplay/ instead of WebVideo/ >_>
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I think it should stick to RP
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But why? We don't put anything else like it in Roleplay/: Dream SMP, SBI Rust, SMPEarth...
It's a livestreamed roleplay server, the public one isn't being troped. That's Web Video.
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Fair nuff
I believe a page I made, Slay Awhile The Slumbering Dark, should actually be under the Web Video/ name space but I'm having trouble changing it—anyone know how to do that? I was told to post here for help
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What's the proper namespace for trading cards?
TabletopGame.Dinosaurs Attack exists and despite the namespace and... apparent lies in the description, it's not a TCG, it's just trading cards to the best of my knowledge. Would it be Art/?
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If there are rules to trading or some sort of strategy that's in some way officially endorsed then I would say tabletop game. If they're just nest things then art
... they're trading cards. I don't know what you're saying about "nest things' but they're just cards with art on them and some flavor text on the back.
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So no gameplay? Well then I would say art
Waffle Cat (she/her)
I agree. We already have some tarot cards under the Art/ namespace.
On an unrelated note, why is Creator.Discord under the Creator/ namespace and not the Website/ one?
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He/Him
Honestly, Discord should be Platform/
Waffle Cat (she/her)
x21 I think something along the lines of Software/ would be a proper namespace for Duo Lingo. I recall we were discussing creating such a namespace at some point.
About Discord, well, all of our social media pages are under Website/, which is fair enough for me since they fit the official definition of a website:
I'd say Discord does too. A potential Platform/ namespace sounds ill-defined.
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He/Him
Platform/ has already been defined per here
YouTube and TikTok have already been moved to that namespace btw, which fits.
Edited by AudioSpeaks2 on Dec 19th 2023 at 10:00:34 PM
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He/Him
If you have any issues with the namespace, you can discuss them here
Ah, well, if there's more content than just the songs, then Web Video/ is a better fit.
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