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vjoi from The South. Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: Mu
#17751: Jul 6th 2023 at 1:34:58 PM

How many rounds should an EDC Gun have?

Cornelius, but do not waste in useless pity the few moments left in which to escape from the hands of the enemy.
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#17752: Jul 6th 2023 at 2:00:35 PM

As many as you can reasonably fit in a suitable form factor for your needs.

But arguably if you actually need more than like 6 to 8 you were never gonna unfuck whatever sticky situation you found yourself in as a civilian.

Edited by LeGarcon on Jul 6th 2023 at 5:01:15 AM

Oh really when?
TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#17753: Jul 7th 2023 at 3:19:34 PM

If you need multiple mags or the full 15 of double stacked mag you are likely in some really deep shit and should be looking to escape and evade not engage.

Call it 8-10 max.

Edited by TuefelHundenIV on Jul 7th 2023 at 5:24:30 AM

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vjoi from The South. Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: Mu
#17754: Aug 1st 2023 at 8:16:16 PM

https://youtu.be/bG9ZzJ_9KRU

Big news on 2a law.

too late edit:The AT Fs SBR ban was struck down by the courts.

Edited by vjoi on Aug 6th 2023 at 12:55:00 PM

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#17755: Aug 2nd 2023 at 8:57:54 AM

I'm not gonna click on a random youtube link, you gotta tell us what the video is about and give a summary.

Oh really when?
Imca (Veteran)
#17756: Aug 2nd 2023 at 8:59:34 AM

The AT Fs ban on short barreled rifles was struck down by the courts.

I dont really like vibe with the guy in the video...

But man that has to have been one of the stupidest rules, so good ridance.

TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#17757: Aug 3rd 2023 at 9:00:35 PM

When you post links be it videos or news articles you need to give us context as to what the link is. No blind links this is a forum rule. A good example would be saying a Youtube video on this by this person in a potholed link. If you want to know how to do Potholes click show Markup Help below the posting box.

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Ominae (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#17758: Aug 17th 2023 at 4:25:23 AM

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/15sf3j3/update_on_the_guns_confiscated_by_miami_police/

Ukrainian National Police received firearms "donated" by Miami Police. Some are likely to be used in Irpin.

The firearms are likely from confiscated caches/surrendered to the police.

Ominae (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#17759: Oct 21st 2023 at 9:37:51 PM

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/17crjf3/mk_kavkaz_muslim_caucasian_unit_in_the_ukrainian/

A Russian kit taken from a captured Russian soldier.

Among them include an AK-12 Obr. 2020 assault rifle.

TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#17760: Oct 26th 2023 at 9:11:37 AM

Shiny. I want to take it apart already.

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Ominae (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#17761: Oct 26th 2023 at 9:14:37 AM

Hopefully you know someone in the Ukrainian Army.

Ominae (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#17762: Dec 10th 2023 at 3:52:39 AM

https://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/15078549

Apparently, this was "sorta" big when Fukuoka Prefectural Police arrested a guy for taking deactivated guns and making them live. No ammo was seized.

Edited by Ominae on Dec 10th 2023 at 3:52:46 AM

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Ominae (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#17764: Jan 10th 2024 at 10:00:52 PM

https://web.archive.org/web/20240111054312/https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news-detail/drdo-develops-new-assault-rifle

DRDO's collaborating with Dvipa Armour India Private Limited to create an assault rifle chambered in 7.62x51mm NATO called the Ugram. It's going to be tested by the Indian Army.

Edited by Ominae on Jan 14th 2024 at 7:44:12 AM

Negacube Since: Nov, 2018 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#17765: Jan 14th 2024 at 6:40:08 AM

Why are they going through all the effort of making a new rifle when they already have an arrangement to make AK-203s? Was there a change in Russo-Indian relations, or was the AK-203 intended to be a stopgap solution to begin with?

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#17766: Jan 14th 2024 at 7:14:42 AM

Because the Indian government runs on nationalism and using foreign designs is embarrassing for them, no matter how superior they are.

Oh really when?
Ominae (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#17767: Jan 14th 2024 at 7:45:36 AM

I recall hearing that the AK-203's suppose to be replacing all INSAS A Rs in Indian military service. They want the 7.62 Soviet caliber due to its penetration power.

Although for Indian-made rifles, I like their 1C, which is a variant of the 1A1 SLR. It's suppose to be used when fired inside APCs and all, but the short barrel can be used for CQB and jungle warfare.

dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#17768: Mar 5th 2024 at 5:26:22 PM

A random musing about guns and home defense.

Is double barreled shotgun good enough for home defense? From my Googling, the common consensus is that while it's most certainly better than nothing, pump-action shotguns are infinitely better.

The oft-cited reasons are that even though they're in the similar price range, pump action not only has higher capacity (obviously) but also can inflict a massive psychological threat through pumping, with the only advantage double barrel has is the fact that it's more reliable.

...But man, while I always loved shotguns, I recently fell in love with double barrel. If I was an American, I would spend so much money on guns and at least half of the collection will be shotguns. [lol]

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#17769: Mar 5th 2024 at 5:37:57 PM

The odds of someone actually needing more than two shells of basically any caliber in a realistic home defense scenario are basically nil.

Hell the odds of you needing more than one incredibly small.

Frankly that's something that's true in general for firearms. The only guns you ever might need are some small little pocket gun in .38 or .380 and a 20 gauge single shot shotgun.

That's more than sufficient for just about any realistic personal or home defense event and to pretend otherwise is just kind of silly. There's a ridiculous amount of machismo and fudd opinions about guns and self defense in general and it's really poisoned a lot of the discussion around the topic. To say nothing about how the modern advertising around guns plays into it and is often just scaremongering. Or how much of the modern gun industry is frankly just straight up grift.

However...

With all that being said if it's within your means to buy something more than what's strictly necessary there's no real reason not to do so. Just keep a reasonable head about the use case and what you're spending that extra money on.

Oh really when?
dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#17770: Mar 5th 2024 at 5:49:03 PM

The odds of someone actually needing more than two shells of basically any caliber in a realistic home defense scenario are basically nil.

Hell the odds of you needing more than one incredibly small.

Hmm, fair enough.

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AFP Since: Mar, 2010
#17771: Mar 5th 2024 at 6:33:04 PM

I'm gonna be honest, I started reading the question and was just happy it wasn't a question about what kind of shot will penetrate a home intruder without overpenetrating drywall.

dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#17772: Mar 5th 2024 at 6:37:41 PM

I'm guessing that's an annoyingly common question in regards to shotgun and home defense? [lol]

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#17773: Mar 5th 2024 at 6:45:48 PM

It is and the correct answer is usually a nice light birdshot.

Still extremely lethal force at home defense ranges (Yes even 20 gauge or .410) but will quickly lose velocity going through something like drywall or across longer distances.

Oh really when?
TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#17774: Mar 6th 2024 at 2:54:36 PM

Shotguns are an old standby for home defense because they are one of the most commonly owned hunting weapons. The simple answer is this. Anything that can reliably stop a person will go through drywall.

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#17775: Mar 6th 2024 at 3:56:04 PM

Yeah it's the safest option, that doesn't mean it's actually safe.

Oh really when?

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