X-Men In General

Mags was just upset. I'm sure he's realized how wrong he was by now.

Ever since ANXM #4 came out, I've been dreading that Bendis was going to kill my all-time favorite X-man, Hank.

Turns out they just wanted to change Hank's look, so he survived. Say goodbye to Cat-Beast and say hello to Gorilla-Beast!

Now I can go back to ignoring ANXM and reading Wolverine and the X-men.

So you're dropping the good book and reading the shitty one? That seems like an odd choice.

I mean All-New X-Men has very good characterization, while Wolverine and the X-Men has some of the shallowest characterization I've ever seen in a comic. I suppose if all you're looking for is a book where everyone shows up for one or two panels for a quick joke line, then Wat XM might be OK. But if you're looking for good writing, and for characters to actually have well-rounded personalities, it seems like you might go with another book. Any other book, frankly.

I fucking hate Wat XM. I wish Jason Aaron would be taken off that book. He's a great writer, but he's just doing an awful, awful job there. He hasn't been writing characters there, he's been writing caricatures.

Bah.

Trust me, I would be the first one to call Wat XM a bad book solely from my knee-jerk hatred towards anything Wolverine. But I gave the book a chance and I ended up really liking it, even looking forward to it. Sure, it's got its flaws and I dislike the Burger King Hellfire Kids Club, but not enough to make me leave it alone.

Heck, my wolverfan friends have accused me of being a skrull or something for liking Wat XM.

My problem isn't Wolverine. My problem is it just sucks. The characters are all one-dimensional, the Hellfire Brats are one of the most obnoxious concepts I've seen in a long time. Even the humour falls flat most of the time. I've liked a couple issues. The Doop issue drawn by Mike Allred - how could I not love that one? And the Angel issue, where he finds Shark-Girl. That was a good issue. Very character-focused and, as an aside, the only time we've actually seen anyone from the JGS go out to try to help new mutants. By and large, the series has been frustratingly shallow, and nowhere near what I expect from a writer of Aaron's talent.

The point that I was trying to get across is that I had every reason to dislike the book and it won me over.

On ANXM's side, Logan organizing a lynch mob of students he supposedly wants to keep away from violence? Everyone giving Lil'Cyke the stink-eye for something he supposedly will do in the future? No, thank you.

I'm glad you enjoy it, but I don't. So I'll just go back to the books I do like.

I agree with all of what you said about ANXM, but I'm hoping there's some karmic justice in store for Logan and Teen!Scott.

Random theory I had: The new Uncanny X-Force volume will reveal that the evil Bishop was a clone made by the White Sky Foundation. I don't have much evidence (given that the book's not out yet), but we know Bishop is involved and White Sky, at least through Cluster, will be, too.

My problem with Wat XM is just the pervasive use of Deus Ex Machina. I don't know if that's changed since the beginning of the book but it was pretty bad in the beginning.

"Oh man, the school is about to be shut down, what do!?"

"Look at me, Obviously villainous man! I am here to fight at a rather convenient time for you!"

"Oh man, those X-men sure are masters of violence! Of course we'll give them access to the youth of America! Wolverine, your fightin' skillz have saved the day!"

"I do it for the kids, man."

A tantalizing tweet from Mr. Bendis.

I wish Wolverine had dialogue like that!

Simon Spurrier has, albeit lightly, hinted at a return for Maggott and/or Marrow on his tumblr. He says he likes them, that Legacy will explore some of the aftereffects of the Age of X reality warp (which they were both alive and powered in), and posted a picture of Marrow's Age of X self.

Marrow! Yay!

I liked Marrow. She was a totally '90s character, but I always thought there was something charming about her. Frankly, I was disappointed when she was made pretty. It hurt the character.

So, I definitely hope she makes a comeback.

Maggott, I couldn't care less about. He was an OK character, but not one I really managed to be interested in.

This also makes me think my theory that Legion's random Scottishness in Legacy is the result of the influence of the powerful Moira personality from Age of X might just be true.

Actually, I'm pretty sure the accent was simply Spurrier fucking up. Blaming it on Fake-Moira works as a handwave, I guess. It's still always going to bug me when he has that accent, though.

What do you think of my theory in post 108, by the way?

edited 8th Jan '13 2:45:25 PM by HamburgerTime

I've always read his lines as if he had an accent, he grew up very near to Scotland after all.

I would be disappointed if they went that way. For all the bitching about Bishop's character derailment, the idea that he would do anything to stop his future from coming into being did make some sense.

His mother's German-turned-Israeli. She was serving as Israel's ambassador to France when David's powers activated. He spent a few years in a coma, then remained heavily autistic when he was sent to Muir Island as a teenager. So, no, he didn't grow up near Scotland. Scotland just happens to be where he was first seen, but he didn't grow up there.

UXF!Bishop also seems to have two organic arms, which also makes me wonder if he's the same one Cable dumped in the future...

I like David's accent. It's unique.

'nother preview◊. Speculated to be X-Men-related. Part of me is hoping it's a teen book, part of me's not sure if Aaron's right for such a book.

A teen book would be great. All these cool young X-men like Anole, Rockslide, Surge, Primal, Genesis, Broo, etc. need to get more screen time. Especially Anole and Rockslide. Those two are a hoot!

I'd like to see some of the ones that never really got a chance. If UXF really does redeem Bishop, killing all those X-kids back in Aught Six will be one of the few big Quesada-enforced X-blunders left. Aaron's also using a character who can revive the dead.

In particular, I'd like to see Wallflower again. Though, given Aaron's track record, he'd probably have her make out with Glob Herman or something.

Also, incoming Azazel, with his own set of Bamfs. He's apparently working for the new "Hellfire Academy," and claims to have taken over both Heaven and Hell.

edited 9th Jan '13 3:22:33 PM by HamburgerTime

Azazel. Ugh. The only reason to bring him back would be as part of a retcon of the fucking retarded The Draco storyline.

I would definitely like to see a new teen X-book that features characters who've existed for more than two years, since Aaron seems inclined to completely ignore all of them in Wat XM in favour of newer characters.

edited 9th Jan '13 5:26:08 PM by Tiamatty

Oh God, not something from Chuck Austen's horrible time. Ugh! Just last night I was talking to a friend about the time Northstar became Annie Ghazmariesue's gay best friend in the most terrible character derailment.

What's next? They'll bring back Ink?