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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#1076: Jan 14th 2017 at 11:19:24 AM

Exactly that way. They had no way out of the situation either way, so they gave everything to take the bugs down with them.
Except that all indications I've seen in the fluff are that even if all WH 40 K factions managed to set aside their differences and unite against the Tyranid Swarm, it would still take a miracle for the Swarm to be defeated. There's a reason why they say that the Tyranids have more bodies to throw at the Milky Way than said galaxy's denizens have bullets.

Not through the Tau's own doing. Orks always go where the biggest fight is and the Imperium vs Tyranid giga-war made them go "zog yeah, lotsa gits ta kill". So they did what Orks do: Waagh'd the biggest clusters of enemies they could find, regardless of casualties.

Lacking a fear of death is an asset if you were literally made to fight, but becomes a liability when you're so hyper-aggressive that your side is getting themselves killed faster than you can replenish your numbers. And considering that Orks literally grow from the ground, that's saying something.

... You're not explaining how the Orks got themselves killed faster than they can replenish their numbers. To wit, even while alone in fighting against the redirected bulk of Hive Fleet Leviathan on Octarius and said Hive Fleet continuously evolving and getting a constant flow of fresh Orkish biomass, the Orks still held their own and, as far as canon has progressed, the battle remains at a stalemate (and that's before Ghazghkull arrived and took command of the Waaagh! there).

As for the Tau, how did they survive, you might wonder? Simple: they took one look at the conflict and went NOPE. They didn't kick ass and take names, they stayed the fuck out of it.
<Evil Laugh> Oh? Do you really think that would work? Here's a lesson for all to learn:    Isolationism won't save you in the WH 40 K world.   

Oh, I just remembered: All elements of the Tyranid Swarm — be it the three major Hive Fleets or the many "minor" ones — have so far always had their travel trajectories traced back to a common origin point to the east of the Milky Way Galaxy (or at least, close enough that it's plausible they originated from said point). And where does the Tau Empire reside? In the Eastern Fringe of the Galaxy. Yes, that's right: It's impossible for them to stay out of the fight once the Tyranid Swarm's main mass finally reaches them, because the entirety of the Galaxy's eastern regions will be engulfed by the Swarm pretty much simultaneously (Kraken and Leviathan did it on the regions they first hit, albeit in different waysnote ; I have no doubt that the Swarm's main body would at least combine both approachs to even deadlier effect, if not come up with an even more devious way).

Do note that the Tau have had less than two millennia's experience fighting them at the time. Add another ten thousand years to it and they've gotten quite a bit more experience at it out of necessity.
That's assuming that they would have that much time.

Well the Orks suddenly intervening would be a good way for the swarm to get thinned down so that the Imperium could beat them. If the Orks are the most numerous race in the galaxy, reproduce through spores, and fight a whole lot, they could kill a lot of Tyranids (as they're doing in the Octavius/Octarian war right now) before they're overwhelmed.
The Tyranids literally do not suffer any losses when fighting against organic lifeforms, because even their own dead have their biomass recycled for newer forms. Barring pitting them against the Necrons (who have already lost an unknowably large portion of their original numbers over the past millions of years, and thus might not have enough numbers to actually win) or the Daemons of Chaos (which might be a bad idea in itself; who knows if the Hive Mind could get ideas and create its own Daemons, or worse: develop a way to absorb Daemons for psychic nourishment?), the only way to circumvent that is to Exterminatus the planet they're attacking after forcing them to expend a significant portion of their biomass in taking it. That worked against Leviathan for some time, but for all we know the Swarm may very well have enough numbers to throw at the Milky Way that you could pull that stunt with every single planet in the galaxy and the Swarm would still have at least one surviving Hive Fleet to its name by the time the dust settles and everyone else is dead.

edited 14th Jan '17 11:27:00 AM by MarqFJA

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MrTerrorist Since: Aug, 2009
#1077: Jan 21st 2017 at 1:32:27 AM

CRIMSON DAWN: The Imperium Comes To 1984 by the author of Event Horizon: Storm of Magic.

The story goes that an Imperium Task Force composed of Crimson Fists, Black Templars, and Salamanders Space Marines along with Imperial Guards and Sisters of Battle attacked a planet in rebellion but due to the shenanigans of Tzeentch and the Warp, the Task Force ends in Earth 1984, unaware they traveled to Old Terra in the past.

Just like the author's previous work, expect a lot of pop culture references from the 1980s.

MrTerrorist Since: Aug, 2009
#1078: Sep 7th 2017 at 6:16:43 AM

Crimson Dawn now has a TV Tropes page and story has gotten interesting.

Not only is the story related with Event Horizon: Storm of Magic since a certain character from that story has cross dimensions to help the Earth of the Crimson Dawn universe against the Imperium but the future Emperor of Mankind is also involved and fighting the Black Templars!

MrTerrorist Since: Aug, 2009
#1079: Jan 1st 2018 at 7:04:53 AM

While everyone is waiting for The Lord Inquisitor film, another fan is making a short film set during the Horus Heresy titled "Death of Hope".

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#1080: Jan 10th 2018 at 9:52:15 PM

OOOOOOOOOOOOH THAT LOOKS SO GOOOOOOOOOOD

God_of_Awesome Since: Jan, 2001
#1081: Nov 17th 2018 at 2:39:14 PM

I wrote this:

Last Loyalists & First Traitors

It's just little blurps describing SM chapters from the legions that chose the opposite side around the Horus Heresy.

Edited by God_of_Awesome on Nov 17th 2018 at 2:40:30 AM

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#1082: Nov 17th 2018 at 3:13:02 PM

Ah, I remember those. The nostalgia of the old days in this thread, when we traded ideas quite frequently.

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God_of_Awesome Since: Jan, 2001
#1083: Nov 17th 2018 at 4:00:45 PM

Ah, yes, these are quite a few ideas I exchanged before, mostly on the main Warhammer 40k thread.

I shared these on Space Battles and their WH40k fanfic thread and got positive responses.

MrTerrorist Since: Aug, 2009
#1085: Mar 23rd 2020 at 12:13:48 AM

So I finally watched the 1st episode of Death of Hope, an animated 40k fanfilm done by one guy.

To be honest, I feel disappointed and mixed over the video. On one hand, I give credit to the creator making this series all by himself and it's set during the Horus Heresy. On the other hand, the trailers made people think the 1st episode will be about Ultramarines defending a planet from a Chaos Space Marines with cool fight scenes. Instead, it follows the aftermath of that invasion where the survivors are captured and taken prisoners by the Chaos Marines on their ships. Furthermore, the viewer is never properly introduce on who is who and never shows how the survivors were captured or how the mother and her baby were mutated by Chaos and If it weren't for the subtitles, I wouldn't understand what anyone is saying. Instead, the 1st episode is just Chaos walking around their ship while the Imperial survivors are killed or tortured by them just show how evil Chaos is. Plus I think the creator may have focused too much on the gore and horror.

Hopefully the next episode will fix it including showing the Invasion in the trailer.

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#1086: Jul 20th 2023 at 4:45:50 PM

In hopes of reviving this thread... Anyone else is a fan of In the Beginning, There Was Man? I wish that it didn't go on indefinite hiatus, or that someone else would at least do a fanfic with a similar premise.

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