Kamen Rider: General Thread

New series guiz...

edited 26th Aug '11 4:47:17 PM by SlowTeddy

Dat head...

So if anyone caught the stream of the last OOO episode tonight ... it looks like Fourze and OOO might be in the same universe as well, if you take the cameo in the credits as canon. COMMENCE WMGs!

Well, Fourze does seem to show up in OOO's movie, which seems so far to be canon...

Just saw Kamen Rider Blade The Movie: Missing Ace (which was also the first time I've ever seen Kamen Rider), it was way better than I was expecting.

My only Kamen Rider exposure so far has been the manga (Kamen Rider Spirits) and the crossover with Power Rangers way back in the day.

Sell it to me. Show me what the franchise has to offer.

For me, there is just something utterly cathartic about watching bug men kick monsters in the face until they explode.

But no, there is more to it then that. Storytelling using latex suits as opposed to cgi is something that has mostly fallen out of favor with western audiences, and it is just plain interesting to see it used in a modern context. People like watching Kamen Rider for the same reason they like watching Star Trek, or Doctor Who, or Babylon Five and so forth. Its a bunch of kickass scifi and fantasy stories told through a medium that you can utterly fall into once you get past the initial barrier.

Also, it has this guy, which is an automatic plus in my book.

Sold.
You didn't have to even try, really.
Where should I start?
The beginning?

edited 31st Aug '11 6:02:39 PM by Zeromaeus

I love the fluidity of the transformations in the Blade movie. It's driving me crazy to see those scenes shot on set to see how they pulled it off so flawlessly.

@Zeromaeus It depends really. First off, what interests you more: a darker setting, a more comedic one, somewhere in between?

Man, I still have to watch the second half of OOO =/

I started out with Dragon Knight, which I thought was pretty good for an Americanization. I am now following the fansub of Kamen Rider Black that Century Kings is doing. If you want to see something really old school, watch that. It does get VERY repetitive though.

Can anyone recommend any other Hesei series? I started watching Kuuga, but they the episodes were taken off youtube. Agito looks cool too. I'm kind of interested in Kabuto, but I'm a little turned off that the main character is apparently kind of an overpowered Jark Ass.

Well, Double was absolutely great. My personal favorite is Ryuki, but that's a bit of a departure from the franchise, so it may not be for everyone. A lot of people seem to like Kabuto, but I could never get into it for the same reasons as you.

Oh, and I would wholehearted recommend that you finish OOO. The finale is absolutely spectacular.

Well, I still like Power Rangers, so goofy/cheesy is ok with me. Serious stuff is ok, too. I mean, I can watch Mothra one and two with a straight face, so my ability to watch plastic be serious is rather high... I think.

Basically, I want a good starting point for watching the series in general. I've read Kamen Rider Spirits, like I said, so I'm relatively familiar with the early riders. I think th

Without going into specific ups and downs, 555 was the only Heisei series that I've been able to take seriously. Blade is close but not as appealing to me.

Starting from Den-O it just got too over-the-top even for me. The basic premise of Fourze is enough to turn me off.

Well, just saw the premier of Fourze, and it seems very, very campy. So I would look into it if you like that sort of thing, and prolly stay away from it if you don't. Two words: Chainsaw Kick.

I can see what you mean about disliking the base premise, but I figure I'll give it a chance and see.

For me, I've always felt that Faiz had a very good premise that it completely failed to use well. It had good suit designs and action, but suffered from bland villains with a very ill defined goal, poor pacing, and plots that revolved around the main character's inability to communicate. Ironically, it's movie was excellent, possibly the best Rider movie so far.

Den O was an interesting series for me. I thought it had a strong start, and worked very well not as a something story driven, but rather as a character driven, almost slice of life-esque story. The downside to this is that the show's quality takes a notable downslide once they introduce the Big Bad and try to give the show a story. Still, the show has some great character interactions, so I would give it a watch.

Stay away from Den O's movies however. They focus entirely on the Imagin, which misses entirely what made them so entertaining in the first place; their interactions with their host. Take Ryotarou away, and they fall flat. The rest of the movies after that are just beating a dead horse.

So where should I start?
If I don't get an answer soon, I'll just go to episode one series one and tread through the whole thing.

Start with Double. It probably captures the whole "spirit" of the Kamen Rider franchise best out of any of the recent series.

So, a more pertinent question. Can anyone link me to where I can actually watch me some Kamen Rider?

If you're willing to download subs, TV-Nihon has everything from Ryuki on translated, and is working and Kuuga and Agito.

Ok. I'll check it out tonight. I'd check it out NOW, but I'm on Hughes Net so...
Yeah, tonight.

I'd only reccomend TV Nihon for the earlier ones that no one else has subbed.

http://midnightcrewsubs.blogspot.com/ for Kuuga

For W, OOO, and now Fourze, I recommend Overtime. http://over-ti.me/

Faster subbing, no unneeded special effects, and they actually translate things, so no "-tachi" garbage.

In anycase, this was fun as hell, but I hope the trope page on this show doesn't have too much TTGL referencing. YES, it does have the writer, but I see no reason why this should be described as "TTGL meets Kamen Rider"

I'm this close to deleting that.

edited 5th Sep '11 11:53:35 AM by Thorn14

You just described a thing I greatly desire to see.

I suppose it would be neat.

In any case I think I'm going to remove the part about this being TTGL + Kamen Rider, and the drill kick being a shout out to TTGL (TTGL did not invent drills)

If the manga is to be believed, drill kicks in Kamen Rider are Older than You Think.

Am I the only one who thinks the LIMITO BREAK really ruins the flow of the belt?

It just sounds so unfitting, its like (Daft Punk) DUORILL (/Daft Punk) ..... (Deep voice) LIMITO BREAK (/Deep voice)

edited 5th Sep '11 2:40:54 PM by Thorn14