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Welcome to the main discussion thread for the Marvel Cinematic Universe! I'm editing this OP and pinning it to establish some basic guidelines. All of the Media Forum rules still apply.

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[Edited by Fighteer]

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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Fighteer on Dec 15th 2022 at 9:55:58 AM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#168401: May 9th 2024 at 9:16:26 AM

Dark Phoenix might not be a good match for the film experience

It was the capstone to a long serialized story and a lot of Byrne whining that Jean was ruining X-Men and threatening to quit

You can’t replicate that in a movie trilogy

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#168402: May 9th 2024 at 9:25:20 AM

What other Jean Grey stories can the MCU work with?

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#168403: May 9th 2024 at 9:29:54 AM

What about the time she got tentacle arms and kinda liked them?

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#168404: May 9th 2024 at 9:54:43 AM

The X-Men have the same problem Superman does, where there’s decades upon decades of stories to draw from for these characters, but previous repetitive film adaptations have gotten audiences seriously believing that there are actually only three or four that exist.

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#168405: May 9th 2024 at 10:00:08 AM

[up][up] I shit you not, I'd actually WATCH that film in a heartbeat. It's something new, something weird, and something just straight-up bonkers... and I'm down.

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#168406: May 9th 2024 at 10:33:46 AM

I want an episode of Born Again where Matt Murdock has to deal with multiple clones/variants of Foggy Nelson like in that one comic panel shared on this thread

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#168407: May 9th 2024 at 12:39:06 PM

Also, the franchise really benefits from having a Mission Control-sort of character who can just be kind of... present in many places, but not overpowering any of those places. That was Coulson's bit, as well.

The key is that they have to be compelling enough to not fade into the background, but also not be so much a protagonist that they're expected to star any story they're in.

Huh. Wong would actually work really well for that, indeed. He even has a means of just... turning up as called for, and leaving as called for.

And honestly, I quite like Wong, so I'd be happy to keep seeing him pop up, forming a part of the connective glue of a phase or two. ^_^

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MatthewWayne The Man Outside Reality from TVA Headquarters Since: Oct, 2014
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#168408: May 9th 2024 at 12:57:46 PM

As of right now, Wong has connections with Doctor Strange and the Masters of the Mystic Arts, both Hulks and the Abomination, Captain Marvel, Shang-Chi and Katy.

Meaning he definitely could play the guy who knows a guy, who knows another guy card if he really wanted to.

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#168409: May 9th 2024 at 1:12:25 PM

And technically Spider-Man. Even if he doesn't remember who Spider-Man used to be under the mask.

Huh. Does Strange remember casting the spell at all?

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#168410: May 9th 2024 at 1:47:11 PM

He remembers there was a multiversal incident involving Spider-Man, but we're not sure exactly how much he remembers about what caused and ended it.

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#168411: May 9th 2024 at 1:54:31 PM

It just hit me that with Spider-Man focusing on being the city’s protector rather than, like, focusing on doing Avengers-level stuff at the moment, while also going through a fairly dark time in his life, this would be a great time for the movies to use Mister Negative.

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#168412: May 9th 2024 at 3:07:26 PM

Hollywood reporter is saying Ralph Ineson is gonna play Galactus: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/fantastic-four-casts-ralph-ineson-as-galactus-1235893995/

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#168413: May 9th 2024 at 3:21:19 PM

Welp, I guess those who were suspecting it would be Giancarlo Esposito are gonna be disappointed.

Also, apparently Fantastic Four has John Malkovich involved somehow? That's actually kind of crazy. My mother's a big fan of his.

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#168414: May 9th 2024 at 3:28:09 PM

I think, due to his no-lose clause, it's a mistake to ever cast The Rock as a villain. Black Adam is a good example of how that doesn't work. It's better to cast him as a hero, then use him sparingly. Let him be super cool and awesome, but not over-centralizing.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on May 9th 2024 at 3:28:29 AM

ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#168415: May 9th 2024 at 3:28:11 PM

Ineson is a very good choice for Galactus. He has that villain bass down well, though i wonder if he'll use his own accent or something a bit more flat and trans Atlantic.

TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#168416: May 9th 2024 at 4:37:07 PM

I'm just gonna say this:

Galactus better not be a space cloud. (If you know, you know.)

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#168417: May 9th 2024 at 4:40:53 PM

The fact he's being casted with an actor indicates he will actually talk instead of being a voiceless thing.

So looks like that won't be an issue here.

Edited by slimcoder on May 9th 2024 at 4:41:09 AM

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#168419: May 9th 2024 at 4:47:03 PM

Honestly this is Great. Ineson has been pretty great. Cid in ffxvi, the hunter in dark crystal.

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#168420: May 9th 2024 at 4:50:39 PM

Imagine this voice but threatning to eat your world.

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TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#168421: May 9th 2024 at 5:00:38 PM

[up]x4: Well yeah, I get that. I'm just throwing shade at the Fox executive that thought it'd be a great idea to have Galactus be a freaking space cloud.

Also, it just hit me! The guy they got as Galactus is The Green Knight! surprised

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on May 9th 2024 at 8:00:51 AM

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#168423: May 9th 2024 at 5:30:43 PM

[up]Julia Garner's been cast to play the Silver Surfer who's Shalla-Bal instead of Norrin Radd here.

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#168424: May 9th 2024 at 5:56:32 PM

We see the film and Galactus is seen as a drone army

Then the real giant man shows up

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#168425: May 9th 2024 at 5:58:10 PM

Eats all those drones and says “Curious”

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